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12-12-2007, 06:38 PM
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New Camaro with less camo.....
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12-12-2007, 06:54 PM
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Eh, I still don't know if I like it or not.
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12-12-2007, 07:13 PM
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Token v6 Guy
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not bad.... still prefer the challenger
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12-12-2007, 07:55 PM
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Sorry, but it really looks BLAND. It's starting to look like a CHEAP ricer design, or a SLIGHTLY modified ORIGINAL 1967. You have waited soooooooooooo long for this car, and the WOW FACTOR is really wearing thin!!!
Last edited by edpontiac91; 12-12-2007 at 07:56 PM.
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12-12-2007, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by edpontiac91
Sorry, but it really looks BLAND. It's starting to look like a CHEAP ricer design, or a SLIGHTLY modified ORIGINAL 1967. You have waited soooooooooooo long for this car, and the WOW FACTOR is really wearing thin!!! 
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I have to agree. They are really behind the 8 ball on this one. Where everyone has already released there retro style car a while ago and GM made so much about this concept and are making poeple wait so long for this car I think it will be met with less sales than GM thinks they will get unless they step it up.
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12-12-2007, 09:13 PM
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Lord of the rings / 10 Second Club / Meet Coordinator
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it needs some better wheels like the bumblebee camaro...even though those were huge. Its still under camo so a better color and maybe a set of stripes will kick it up. I'll wait until I see it unveiled to pass final judgement on it.
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12-12-2007, 09:22 PM
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White still zaps a lot of the design. It takes away a lot of the featuers of the car...
The camo car showed more featuers...
Im still in love, just not with the white.
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12-12-2007, 09:24 PM
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thats what its gonna look like? what happened to the sexiness?
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12-12-2007, 10:00 PM
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i seen one while i was at sema, i liked it a lot.
it looks better in person.
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12-12-2007, 11:14 PM
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2 words..... dodge challenger.
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12-13-2007, 12:07 AM
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Why do people fail to realize the challenger is the most uncreative piece of automotive machinery in 40 years?
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12-13-2007, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ar0ck
Eh, I still don't know if I like it or not.
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yea im on same page guess not really into retro... i hated it when ford did it w/ the mustang and so far i dont like how GM is somewhat following
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12-13-2007, 09:15 AM
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i love it. too bad its coming out so soon. i really hope GM realizes that the new age likes gadgetry. i'd like it to have those corvette door handles and bluetooth and nav and all that stuff that sells cars. hell, even ford caught on!
if you can get a 20k dollar civic with leather, nav, and heated seats. why can't our 40k cars get that stuff?
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12-13-2007, 09:22 AM
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i love it. too bad its coming out so soon. i really hope GM realizes that the new age likes gadgetry. i'd like it to have those corvette door handles and bluetooth and nav and all that stuff that sells cars. hell, even ford caught on!
if you can get a 20k dollar civic with leather, nav, and heated seats. why can't our 40k cars get that stuff?
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You are right. I think that is going to make the difference for the general buying public. Otherwise only the die hard Camaro people will be buying this car.
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12-13-2007, 09:59 AM
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Token v6 Guy
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Originally Posted by WayFast84
thats what its gonna look like? what happened to the sexiness?
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SEXINESS = DODGE NEON!
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12-13-2007, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Fast92RS
You are right. I think that is going to make the difference for the general buying public. Otherwise only the die hard Camaro people will be buying this car.
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and the people that like the styling and like having the new thing out there. but once all that novelty wears away, sales will dwindle. sound familiar? it should. its the tale of the 05 mustang
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12-13-2007, 11:13 AM
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Looks exactly like every other photo Gm has released
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12-13-2007, 12:34 PM
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BTW this looks to me like a blown up camera phone pic. Crappy pic, crappy lighting, can't see crap, why get worked up over it? You could see more detail in the full-camo pics
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12-13-2007, 01:08 PM
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i can see an epic failure coming... especially since you can pick up a loaded GT for 25k
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12-13-2007, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Squirrel
i can see an epic failure coming... especially since you can pick up a loaded GT for 25k
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well... is camaro gonna be going for mad dough???
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12-13-2007, 02:14 PM
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i can see an epic failure coming... especially since you can pick up a loaded GT for 25k
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Thats probably why it stoped selling the first time. Camaro's got to be more money than a mustang and I dont see why but mustangs sell. The Camaro has to be competively priced to make it or it will be like the GTO.
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12-13-2007, 03:23 PM
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but an nissan can sell its 350z for well over 30k and outsell both... its a sad, sad world we live in.
and i do like the 350z by the way. its leaps and bounds ahead of the mustang or a 4th gen for that matter. but the fact that its better and its successor will still outsell the camaro bothers me.
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12-13-2007, 03:32 PM
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but an nissan can sell its 350z for well over 30k and outsell both... its a sad, sad world we live in.
and i do like the 350z by the way. its leaps and bounds ahead of the mustang or a 4th gen for that matter. but the fact that its better and its successor will still outsell the camaro bothers me.
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Zs dont sell like mustangs (u kno i sold nissans, fords and dodge) i drove z's before theyr really not that fast and mustang got bang for buck Zs handle amazing tho, id say best handling car iv ever drove and new stangs are boat-ish
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12-13-2007, 04:25 PM
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4 words - Bring back the Firebird
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12-13-2007, 05:36 PM
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NJFBOA Co-Founder
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it is funny to hear all the negatives that some people throw around when the camaro is mentioned.
challenger? thats funny. i guess you missed the pictures of it getting pushed at teh woodward dream cruise, or the fact that it is such a heap that here we sit 6 months after the initial delivery date and none have hit the street yet, and this is all before you get to the over weight and overpriced car. is it nice looking, yes. is it built on a good riding platform, yes. is it any kind of competition in the pony car market, hell no.
mustang GT. this is another classic. the mustang gt is not 25k well equiped, it is 25k for a base V8 with only 300hp. it is also a car that does not ride very well, has a lot of interior noise, comes with half the warranty of any GM product, and isn't even quick/fast enough to beat a 2002 F-Body much less the proposed 400hp new camaro.
the 350Z is a gutless car with very cool styling. it is typical of the weight of recent generations of camaros and mustang but with the subtraction of the torque that the V8 cars enjoy. i am sorry, but having driving them before i can tell you that the 260ish ft/lbs(can't remember the exact number) is not enough to get the car going. add on the inflated price and i only see this car moving on image sales. anyone who is planning to use the car in a spirited manner, shoudl look elsewhere.
it remains to be seen if the new camaro will live up to the surrounding hype or not, but it is certainly a better car on paper than any of the direct competition. that is a good start. for a few thousands bucks more than a mustang GT and a bit less than the 350Z you get a bunch more car than either brand is offering.
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