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Old 01-08-2008, 08:19 AM   #1
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Thumbs down Get ready for Red Light Cameras

That's right, our sleezy legislators passed it last night during the last session of the lame duck. Cameras will be installed on traffic lights and you will be mailed tickets if caught in an intersection when the light is red. This has failed in a few other states and even deemed unconstitutional in one, but our greedy legislators couldn't pass up on a cash cow like this. This is nothing to do about safety, and everyting to do about fundraising.

Speaking of fundraising, King Jon Corslime gives his dismal state of the state address today in which he will reveal his super-secret asset monetization plan. I feel sorry for those of you that commute on toll roads, because according to several news outlets, you can expect your tolls to go up an equivelent of 800% over the next few years.

Oh yeah, they also gave double-digit raises (17%) to the supreme court justices and staff...during a time when the state is broke and billions in debt. By comparison, the lowest paid state workers received 4% raises this year. What a joke.
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:30 AM   #2
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:39 AM   #3
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This is why NJ is the laughing stock of the US when it comes to all the outrageous bs our corrupt politicians do. I cant wait to move out of NJ.
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:15 AM   #5
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Old 01-08-2008, 09:23 AM   #6
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:31 AM   #7
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I have already seen a few camaras poping up around my area. And read corslime as some one said is raising all the tolls and is implementing tolls on 440 and wanted to on 78 and 80. He still wants to raise the gas tax and no doubt will try to increase the sales tax again before he is voted out.
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Old 01-08-2008, 10:38 AM   #8
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I have already seen a few camaras poping up around my area. And read corslime as some one said is raising all the tolls and is implementing tolls on 440 and wanted to on 78 and 80. He still wants to raise the gas tax and no doubt will try to increase the sales tax again before he is voted out.
Tolls on 78? Can you do that on an interstate highway? Aren't they "controlled" by the federal government?
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Old 01-08-2008, 11:17 AM   #9
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There are tolls on 95 in other states, so I guess so.
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Old 01-08-2008, 11:42 AM   #10
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There are tolls on 95 in other states, so I guess so.
Ah, that's right. Who can forget the $5 Delaware (or is it MD) toll.
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Old 01-08-2008, 12:01 PM   #11
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This is why NJ is the laughing stock of the US when it comes to all the outrageous bs our corrupt politicians do. I cant wait to move out of NJ.
We're even more the laughing stock because we continually vote the same corrupt a-holes into office.
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Old 01-08-2008, 12:46 PM   #12
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We're even more the laughing stock because we continually vote the same corrupt a-holes into office.
Exactly. It's really sad, but most people have no clue as to what's going on in Trenton. And I bet many of those who do vote do so just for the sake of it, and know nothing about who or what they're voting for. NJ's reputation stretches far beyond our borders, too. When the GF and I were on our cruise last month, whenever people asked us where we were from, our answer was met with a negative reaction 100% of the time, and usually followed by: "Oh, sorry to hear that."
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Old 01-08-2008, 01:43 PM   #13
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Doesnt supprise me. This state will do whatever it takes to steal more money from us. I still cant believe that the "Safe Passage" crap is still legal. I knew NJ and the system in general was a joke when they make Whitman, the former leader of this toxic waste dump, and the one who decided that the best idea for the environment was to make the automobile emissions standards insanely high, and loosen restrictions for industrial and commercial emissions, even though automobile emissions only count for 1% of all emissions. Then the governemnt thought it would be a good idea to put her in charge of the EPA. Brilliant. They should have just put Dan Quale in charge of the National Spelling Bee competition.
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Old 01-08-2008, 01:52 PM   #14
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maybe its just me.... but i dont have any real problems with red light cameras. ive come across them numerous times before being so close to NY, and now living in NY.
im just replying on what the title of the thread is talking about, nothign else. but cameras are fine with me. dont run red lights and youll be fine to, or what? you like running red lights and risking your lives and the lives of innocent others? good deal then... geez
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Old 01-08-2008, 01:56 PM   #15
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maybe its just me.... but i dont have any real problems with red light cameras. ive come across them numerous times before being so close to NY, and now living in NY.
im just replying on what the title of the thread is talking about, nothign else. but cameras are fine with me. dont run red lights and youll be fine to, or what? you like running red lights and risking your lives and the lives of innocent others? good deal then... geez
yeah i dont have a problem with red light cameras either, except for when i get tickets for going through yellow lights and have to explain that it was yellow when i went through and i diidn't do a single thing wrong.
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Old 01-08-2008, 02:07 PM   #16
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This is a huge money maker, I've seen it happen every day in Newark. People sit at the light and then they don't want to wait so if no traffic is coming they blow through it. I've seen 2 accidents that way and a year ago I saw a truck that was stolen blowing down the wrong side of the street. Not that a camera would have stopped them, but at least a picture of the driver that killed 2 people would be caught on camera.

I have no problem with them, but like someone above said they need to be careful with where you are in the road when the light turns red because it could be a lot of wasted time fighting tickets. But that is what they hope that you won't fight and just pay it.

Also, would that make it a moving violation, how can you prove I was the driver, and not a friend I lent the car to. There are going to be big problems.

Thank you Corslime.
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Old 01-08-2008, 02:51 PM   #18
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i too do not have a problem with the cameras except for the obvious issue of the yellow lights. As a cash cow though it needs to last longer than the time it takes to cover the cost of the camera systems themselves. how long will that take? and how long will it take for a group of mis-accused yellow lighters to file class action against the state and throw us futher in debt, not to mention the myriad of other legal battles this will cause, again on the state's bill. this is just another death-throw of dying state economy and corslime taking full advantage of his last few chances to be a prick.
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what if your not the one driving your car? you still get the ticket?
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O god I can just imagine all the tickets for people still being in the intersection while trying to make a left and the shmucks in the oncoming lane running the yellow light and not letting those two guys turn before it hits read.


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yea ive seen a couple cameras at lights allready...they just put one up on my way to work on forest ave by the cemetery when it splits to goto third ave in westwood..
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just get some photo blocker etc. just in case... i wont run red lights but i do run yellow lights half the time and ill be damned if im gonna have to go fight a ticket i shouldnt have gotten
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Tolls on 78? Can you do that on an interstate highway? Aren't they "controlled" by the federal government?
The NJTurnpike is technically I 95 up north...it has tolls. I believe the state receives less federal transportation money for having tolls on interstate roads.

Other than 1.5 years left at school and the occasional trip to my parents, I'll just avoid the toll roads. If it takes 40 minutes instead of 20, eh, whatever...probably will cost less in gas then the toll...until of course he hikes the gas tax...
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running red lights is illegal, 20 something other states already use redlight cameras(including PA and NY), and somehow this is some horrible thing cooked up jsut by our state government?

are you people serious?

get real guys, the more they enforce the law the better chance we have of our insurance actually going DOWN in this state. also, the extra source of revenue would mean one less tax hike excuse they have, another little thing our state is known for.

face it, not everything the government does means they are out to get you. if it is too much trouble to not run red lights, TAKE A BUS!!
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The paper said 80 & 78 are dropped from the plan. And locals are fighting 440.
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