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02-03-2008, 07:50 PM
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American Road Warrior
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Sealing a cast alum valve cover...
Well, I have a set of aftermarket valve covers on my AMX, and they are big, cast alum jobbies. Well, when I put them on the first time with just a plain Fel-Pro rubber gasket, I had a leak on the driver's side. I took the cover off, cleaned up the gasket, skimmed it with some Permatex "Right Stuff," and re installed it. It seemed to hold up fine, until sometime in Dec, when I went to start the car up and run it a bit while it is in winter storage. The driver's side started leaking again, so I said "F" it and put the car away. Welp, it was nice today, so I figured I'd go run the car, and see about the leak. Some of the bolts were loose [I'm using stainless Allen bolts], so I tightened them up, and the leak seemed to be taken care of. I drove the car around a bit, and when I came to a stop at a light I noticed smoke coming out from under the car. I got back to my storage garage, and the valve cover was REALLY leaking badly. I tried tightening up the bolts again, but no dice. So I put the car away. Now I'm looking for a fix...and since I already tried my usually "proven" method of gasket and Right Stuff and it didn't hold, I'm looking for ideas...
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02-03-2008, 07:54 PM
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Have you checked the covers to make sure the sealing edge is completely flat?
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02-03-2008, 08:25 PM
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Resident Camera Guy
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I had a similar issue way back when after I "gutted" my stock LT1 Aluminum valve covers to clear after market rockers. I ended up using the same method you did with the Permatex and it turned out to be the valve covers flexed when I cut the supports out and I needed to massage the cover lining inwards (if that makes any sense, it was the channel where the gasket goes in and over a center bolt style cylinder head)
I ended up using a small hammer and a good piece of wood.
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02-03-2008, 09:25 PM
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American Road Warrior
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
Have you checked the covers to make sure the sealing edge is completely flat?
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THAT is something I will have to check!
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02-03-2008, 09:26 PM
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American Road Warrior
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ar0ck
I had a similar issue way back when after I "gutted" my stock LT1 Aluminum valve covers to clear after market rockers. I ended up using the same method you did with the Permatex and it turned out to be the valve covers flexed when I cut the supports out and I needed to massage the cover lining inwards (if that makes any sense, it was the channel where the gasket goes in and over a center bolt style cylinder head)
I ended up using a small hammer and a good piece of wood.
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U could hit these covers with a 10 lb sludge hammer and they ain't gonna budge! These are 'ol skool foundry cast whammer jammers!
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02-04-2008, 07:10 AM
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Moroso makes a silicone gasket witha steel core that will pretty much seal anything. I am not sure if they are available for AMC but it is worth a try.
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02-04-2008, 09:47 AM
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I had problems with the rubber gaskets on my alum covers, switched to cork and a little permatex and they work fine.
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02-04-2008, 05:15 PM
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Mr Fantastic
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i used fel-pro cork gaskets on my 87 mustang with cast aluminum covers...worked fine
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Last edited by GP99GT; 02-04-2008 at 05:15 PM.
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02-05-2008, 12:51 PM
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10 Second Club
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i have thin aluminum valve covers. cheap moroso. i had the same problem. i went to a thick cork gasket and glued it to the valve cover. installed the valve cover to the head dry. no leaks. i never did trust the rubber gaskets. either no gasket or cork for anything i assemble and usually dont have problems. just another thought on the matter.
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02-05-2008, 04:29 PM
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American Road Warrior
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A buncha my AMC buddies are raving about SCI gaskets, so I ordered up a set. I'm also gonna take the cover off and see if the flange is wavy. If so, I'll run it by the local machine shop for a buzz back to straightness.
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2008 Crown Vic Police Interceptor: 'Nuff said!
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02-10-2008, 06:00 PM
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torch+hammer=good valve cover but, torch+hammer=epic failure too
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02-10-2008, 08:13 PM
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Admin.
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Anyone ever used Fel Pro Perma Seals?
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Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE
Moroso makes a silicone gasket witha steel core that will pretty much seal anything. I am not sure if they are available for AMC but it is worth a try.
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You mean these?
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...0&autoview=sku
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Last edited by BonzoHansen; 02-10-2008 at 08:19 PM.
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02-11-2008, 01:12 AM
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I used the cork ones and they worked good, until one of the welds in the valve cover cracked and leaked oil. Damn sheet metal POS lol
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02-11-2008, 11:26 AM
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American Road Warrior
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I just got a set of SCI cork gaskets in the mail...now I just need a nice warm day to try them out!
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1991 Dodge Spirit R/T: Gran'pa lookin' 150+ mph turbo rocket.
2013 Dodge Avenger RT: Wastelands cruiser.
2008 Crown Vic Police Interceptor: 'Nuff said!
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02-17-2008, 09:56 AM
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thats them
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