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04-25-2008, 04:36 PM
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15 Second Club
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this cam/lifer/head crap is driving me nuts
i just need to know if my car is a roller cam or not so i can order my cam kit and roller rocker arms. can anyone please for the love of god tell me i have no patience left.
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04-25-2008, 04:43 PM
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the 327 block is going to be hydrollic flat tappet but the heads are going to be from a roller motor...so what you do is you order the cam you want, install it and get a push rod tool to measure your pushrod length...
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04-25-2008, 04:46 PM
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305
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04-25-2008, 09:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by band77one
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What year? I think the 305 went roller around 86
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04-25-2008, 09:53 PM
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88, someone on TGO told me yes it is.
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04-26-2008, 11:48 AM
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87.....I'm pretty sure it is...what exactly are you doing? I though you were building a 327?
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04-26-2008, 11:53 AM
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87 was the change over year. The motors switched to roller lifters, centerbolt valve covers, and remote coil distributors.
86 was the changed over from 2 piece to 1 piece RMS but I'm not positive on that.
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04-26-2008, 05:13 PM
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im not doing anything now. vics autobody ****ed up my car now the whole thing has to be repainted. >=0
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04-26-2008, 05:24 PM
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 what happened??
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dumbass.
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04-26-2008, 06:27 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by band77one
im not doing anything now. vics autobody ****ed up my car now the whole thing has to be repainted. >=0
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HUH?
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04-26-2008, 07:35 PM
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Co-Founder / Site Admin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deadtrend1
87 was the change over year. The motors switched to roller lifters, centerbolt valve covers, and remote coil distributors.
86 was the changed over from 2 piece to 1 piece RMS but I'm not positive on that.
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Yes, you're right on all counts. '87 was also the year of the quasi-serpentine belt setup. There was a serp belt around the crank / waterpump / alt, and v-belts for everything else.
- Justin
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04-27-2008, 06:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
Yes, you're right on all counts. '87 was also the year of the quasi-serpentine belt setup. There was a serp belt around the crank / waterpump / alt, and v-belts for everything else.
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My 86 motor had that setup also.
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04-27-2008, 07:33 PM
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thanks for all the help guys, when im able to build a motor i know what im doing now, but since Vic;s Autobody, located in Clementon NJ, did not properly seal my car and i guess its the primer? that is bleeding through the paint, the whole car has to be redone. but thats ok. the car will be done in around a month, will post up pics as progress is made. sorry for the off topic.
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04-27-2008, 09:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deadtrend1
My 86 motor had that setup also.
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mine too
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04-27-2008, 09:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deadtrend1
My 86 motor had that setup also.
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my motor ain't an 86, but I have the 86 belt set up, and its like that
Sorry to hear about your paint...
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04-27-2008, 09:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deadtrend1
My 86 motor had that setup also.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\
mine too
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubba428
my motor ain't an 86, but I have the 86 belt set up, and its like that
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I guess whoever I heard that from was full of it then. I could have sworn everything pre-87 was pure v-belt, but I guess I was mistaken.
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04-27-2008, 09:35 PM
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I think your only a year off....my buddies 2 87s have regular serpentine with a tensioner.
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04-27-2008, 09:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubba428
I think your only a year off....my buddies 2 87s have regular serpentine with a tensioner.
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Nope, that was def. 88+ My 87 and every other '87 I've seen is the serp/v-belt setup.
- Justin
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04-27-2008, 10:54 PM
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Meet Coordinator
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why were u getting it painted??
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04-29-2008, 08:50 AM
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if the block has 3 tapped bolt holes in the middle of the lifter valley, its a roller block. thats where the lifter retainer mounts.
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