Should we build bigger cars for bigger people? - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

Tsar · 02-19-2009, 09:17 AM

Seems like it's what this show is suggesting. First on the block were the airlines - their sits were too small for people 3 times the normal size. Now the seems to be on the chopping block. The issue is not really the seat, at the moment, but rather the alignment in a small car with a big person inside & seatbelts.

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Questions, comments or concerns?
I think the solution is obvious, you?

LTb1ow · 02-19-2009, 09:20 AM

As much as I hate for big brother ness, I would be perfectly ok if the government stepped in and made things like that illegal. If you are too big, too bad, lose weight.

Tsar · 02-19-2009, 09:26 AM

I think the answer should be the same if let's say, I was 7 feet tall and decided to buy lotus Elise. Would Lotus change their car for me or tell me to go buy an F-150? I don't think I would have a right to complain about "poor design" and say that I had a bad experience w/ Lotus. The only different I see, I can't become shorter which would put me in a bigger disadvantage, at least that's the way I view it.

LTb1ow · 02-19-2009, 09:32 AM

I agree, being morbidly obese is your own fault and you can change it.

Squirrel · 02-19-2009, 09:35 AM

lol tubby bitch

WildBillyT · 02-19-2009, 09:51 AM

The absolute worst is when you have to fly on a plane where they ask your weight for payload purposes. I was on one once and a fat lady (probably in the 3-400s) told the attendent she was 200. A guy behind her called BS and told her to tell the truth because he doesn't want to die. I had to bite my lip because it was funny as hell.

Teds89IROC · 02-19-2009, 10:02 AM

So annoying, I don't understand why it's the dealerships responsibility to make sure they have seat belt extenders etc to accomodate these people. Not many people are dumb enough to buy a car they can barely fit into. It's the same old problem continued....no one takes responsibility for themselves.

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The absolute worst is when you have to fly on a plane where they ask your weight for payload purposes. I was on one once and a fat lady (probably in the 3-400s) told the attendent she was 200. A guy behind her called BS and told her to tell the truth because he doesn't want to die. I had to bite my lip because it was funny as hell.

That is hilarious!

miketa95 · 02-19-2009, 10:31 AM

Didn't this lady look at any other cars when car shopping?

Frosty · 02-19-2009, 10:37 AM

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I agree, being morbidly obese is your own fault and you can change it.

...and this is based on what medical evidence?

LTb1ow · 02-19-2009, 10:46 AM

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...and this is based on what medical evidence?

Well you got there yourself, you can surely get yourself back to normal weights. Generations of people did it without problem before my time, I don't see why people have such a hard time with it now.

Teds89IROC · 02-19-2009, 10:49 AM

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Well you got there yourself, you can surely get yourself back to normal weights. Generations of people did it without problem before my time, I don't see why people have such a hard time with it now.

it's the dollar menus

LTb1ow · 02-19-2009, 10:50 AM

Yea well you buy your fast food, just don't complain when you end up weighing more than 400.

NJSPEEDER · 02-19-2009, 10:52 AM

Don't most new cars come with height adjustable seat belts? I can't see designing a whole car based on individual stature or girth, maybe building in a few more adjustments for safety sake, but not designing anything especially for them.

Teds89IROC · 02-19-2009, 10:54 AM

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Yea well you buy your fast food, just don't complain when you end up weighing more than 400.

I totally agree

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Don't most new cars come with height adjustable seat belts? I can't see designing a whole car based on individual stature or girth, maybe building in a few more adjustments for safety sake, but not designing anything especially for them.

I think the only way they can accomodate her in that POS is to put the seat in the middle lol

LTb1ow · 02-19-2009, 10:57 AM

Nah, bags o cement on the passenger side to compensate.

98tadriver · 02-19-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Shownomercy

As much as I hate for big brother ness, I would be perfectly ok if the government stepped in and made things like that illegal. If you are too big, too bad, lose weight.

i agree. people that are way fat need to lose some effing weight.

Frosty · 02-19-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Shownomercy

Well you got there yourself, you can surely get yourself back to normal weights. Generations of people did it without problem before my time, I don't see why people have such a hard time with it now.

So people with serious medical conditions, thyroid problems, serious chemical imbalances can just "get themselves back to normal"? How about people that are disabled and couldn't work out or do physical activity to stay in shape? You know genetics play a very important role in that as well right?

Of course there are people are there that are just f'in lazy and do it to themselves but there are a ton of people out there that aren't at fault. Most people could lose a few pounds(myself included, ideally I should lose about 10) but some people can't control it, no matter what they do.

ar0ck · 02-19-2009, 11:18 AM

If I recall correctly, currently in Japan, senior citizens are fined a certain amount of money for every pant size they are over a government size regulation because of the increasing obesity problems they are having.

As much as I hate the idea of the government stepping in to tell us what to do this is probably one of the few I agree with.

Frosty · 02-19-2009, 11:20 AM

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If I recall correctly, currently in Japan, senior citizens are fined a certain amount of money for every pant size they are over a government size regulation because of the increasing obesity problems they are having.

As much as I hate the idea of the government stepping in to tell us what to do this is probably one of the few I agree with.

Yeah I think they have something like that in place. However if you're ok with that then they should tax every horsepower your car makes right? If obesity is a health issue(which obviously it is) then driving powerful, fast cars is a danger to you, the public and costly to insurance companies...

See how slippery the slope can be?

98tadriver · 02-19-2009, 11:20 AM

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...and this is based on what medical evidence?

you dont get fat from not eating like a fatass lol. and to anyone who might says its because of a medical condition- being morbidly obese accounts for alot of medical condtions that can cause you to be even more morbidly obese. they make medicine for thyroid problems. my friend has a thyroid problem. hes 5'7 190lbs, but he's pretty jacked. hes not fat. and about genetics, if somebody sees that their parents and relatives are fat, they can do something about it. diabled people probably cant help it. But i bet you 90% of obese people are just lazy pieces of crap who whine and complain about being horribly overweight, yet they do nothing about it.

LTb1ow · 02-19-2009, 11:21 AM

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Of course there are people are there that are just f'in lazy and do it to themselves but there are a ton of people out there that aren't at fault. Most people could lose a few pounds(myself included, ideally I should lose about 10) but some people can't control it, no matter what they do.

And those would be the ones I am referring too, if you read Tsar's post he commented that he could not change how tall or short he may be so he couldn't be held to that but willingly making yourself overweight is not excusable.

Frosty · 02-19-2009, 11:23 AM

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you dont get fat from not eating like a fatass lol. and to anyone who might says its because of a medical condition- being morbidly obese accounts for alot of medical condtions that can cause you to be even more morbidly obese

First part=wrong. Genetics play a huge role in how fat is used and stored. You could be on a super strict diet and not lose the weight you'd expect to.

The 2nd part is right...it's like a domino effect...one thing leads to another and it's just a vicious cycle.

LTb1ow · 02-19-2009, 11:26 AM

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First part=wrong. Genetics play a huge role in how fat is used and stored. You could be on a super strict diet and not lose the weight you'd expect to.

The 2nd part is right...it's like a domino effect...one thing leads to another and it's just a vicious cycle.

Soooooooooo there was a huge genetic mutation in the past ten years that explains the sudden rise in obese people?

Frosty · 02-19-2009, 11:47 AM

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Soooooooooo there was a huge genetic mutation in the past ten years that explains the sudden rise in obese people?

No but people have a tendency to see someone who is super fat and automatically assume it's their fault. It could easily be turned around and you can assume that someone who is always in the gym is a roid popping loser with no life...you could assume that person was a dork in school and always got picked on so they feel they have to be some ripped muscle guy but in reality they're still a loser on the inside.

I guess my point is it's super easy to be judgmental and assume someone is lazy because they're really overweight. But again there are people out there that fit the stereotype and deserve every disease and illness they get.

Tsar · 02-19-2009, 11:48 AM

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...and this is based on what medical evidence?

Its based on the old formula of calories in and calories out. Guess how that one works. Oh, my mother had thyroid cancer and she's far from fat so you might take that excuse somewhere else. If one takes care of their body it should be A-OK. Don't people ever take responsibility anymore? There's always someone/something else to blame....

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT

The absolute worst is when you have to fly on a plane where they ask your weight for payload purposes. I was on one once and a fat lady (probably in the 3-400s) told the attendent she was 200. A guy behind her called BS and told her to tell the truth because he doesn't want to die. I had to bite my lip because it was funny as hell.

Funny story about planes. When I was in flight school I had to cancel my check ride because my examiner was too fat.... After calculating all the weight we were 150 lbs over. I had to wait a few extra days for instructor that would fit the "criteria".