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Durrrr...
Camaro FTW. There is a lot of talk of the numb steering on the Camaro.
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03-23-2009, 07:02 PM
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when MT tested did their camparo how did the mustang out handle the camaro. the Mustang has a live rear axle while the camaro has a independent set up
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03-23-2009, 08:17 PM
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Quote:
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when MT tested did their camparo how did the mustang out handle the camaro. the Mustang has a live rear axle while the camaro has a independent set up
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Because live rear axle is FTW
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03-23-2009, 09:19 PM
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when MT tested did their camparo how did the mustang out handle the camaro. the Mustang has a live rear axle while the camaro has a independent set up
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The Mustang tested had the Track Pack, supposedly that tightens the car up quite a bit. The Mustang is also a few hundred pounds lighter than the Camaro, and that helps too. The said clearly that the Mustang and Camaro are neck and neck on smooth pavement, but if there are any bumps / imperfections / etc, the Camaro stays rock solid, and the Mustang starts chasing it's own tail....
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03-23-2009, 09:39 PM
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I didnt realize/it wasnt pointed out they did a 13.0 on a freezing cold asphalt street! It probably does have mid-low 12s in it, of course with someone with a lot of practice behind the wheel. probably a good amount off the 0-60 as well. I demand a retest
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03-23-2009, 11:13 PM
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The Mustang's track package seems to be a well sorted unit, but its costly adn drives the cost of the GT to north of the 2SS pricing.
Think of Mustang's track package as turning it up to 11, while Camaro SS's is only turned up to 8 or 9.
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03-24-2009, 10:08 AM
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wow the v6 isnt bad at all...
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03-24-2009, 12:57 PM
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Because live rear axle is FTW
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 I couldn't stand the IRS in the 'vette.
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03-24-2009, 01:35 PM
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Because live rear axle is FTW
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In drag racing, not handling. Unless every track and road was smooth as glass.
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03-24-2009, 02:12 PM
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Yea so im suprised by how this looks......... 
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03-24-2009, 02:50 PM
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what benefits does a live rearaxle have in drag racing? i would imagine that it doesnt really matter so much
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03-24-2009, 03:03 PM
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I'd think longevity and strength
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03-24-2009, 06:11 PM
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IRS had always had a problem of taking repeat beatings when compared to the live axle. The camaros IRS was designed for this specific purpose.
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03-25-2009, 04:01 PM
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does camaro have electric steering?
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03-25-2009, 05:36 PM
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No, variable ratio hydraulic power steering directly from the Corvette. Pretty cool stuff.
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03-25-2009, 05:44 PM
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I thought there was an artic white?
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Originally I saw white on palette and it said interim availability. I wouldn't get white either.
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I might have to get me a nice RS!!
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03-25-2009, 09:52 PM
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the v6 is sick but i already made the mistake of buying a V6 once. i need me a V8
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03-25-2009, 10:43 PM
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IRS sucks for drag.....especially with big torque, not sure how strong those halfshafts are....but they wont last long through hard launches.
that camaro daskinnyguy posted is SEXY! like the ZR1 almost.
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03-25-2009, 10:52 PM
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Quote:
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No, variable ratio hydraulic power steering directly from the Corvette. Pretty cool stuff.
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so whats with the numb steering claims?
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03-25-2009, 11:02 PM
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IRS sucks for drag.....especially with big torque, not sure how strong those halfshafts are....but they wont last long through hard launches.
that camaro daskinnyguy posted is SEXY! like the ZR1 almost.
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i guess that means, just like 4th gens, its not gonna be long till we see solid 12 bolts and 9" upgrades availible
even most cobra owners toss out their irs
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03-25-2009, 11:21 PM
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probably, i wouldnt be surprised if moser and strange already has kits being worked on. maybe even a nice 4-link style....
someone has headers out already as well......
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This car is a beaut and everyones gonna want a piece of the pie, however i'm still a nobile fan of the 4th gen mentality. Over time parts have become cheap, nothing really too complicated or impossible when fixing it... I can't imagine the electronic and mechanical hell for modifying (all the damn airbags, braking system, independent rear axle L99 4 cyl shutdown) uhh I can see imagine how many people will mess with that on their own and fail miserably. Although changing spark plugs and wires will finally leave skin left on my hands and arms. Simply the 4th gens are definitely hands on when it comes to modifying, yes the interior is a little disgusting at times especially here looking at the new 5th gen but it was easy and fun to be stripped apart. Now that we got that over with... waiting on the trans-am lol
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This car is a beaut and everyones gonna want a piece of the pie, however i'm still a nobile fan of the 4th gen mentality. Over time parts have become cheap, nothing really too complicated or impossible when fixing it... I can't imagine the electronic and mechanical hell for modifying (all the damn airbags, braking system, independent rear axle L99 4 cyl shutdown) uhh I can see imagine how many people will mess with that on their own and fail miserably. Although changing spark plugs and wires will finally leave skin left on my hands and arms. Simply the 4th gens are definitely hands on when it comes to modifying, yes the interior is a little disgusting at times especially here looking at the new 5th gen but it was easy and fun to be stripped apart. Now that we got that over with... waiting on the trans-am lol
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4th gens have airbags and brakes
there will be no trans am
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