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05-08-2009, 09:47 AM
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Power Lumbar Wiring
I have a 2000 Formula that came with cloth seats and I just purchased leather seats from a 2001 Trans Am which has the power lumbar connection. I haven't removed my seats yet, but would there be the wiring somewhere in my car for the lumbar? I couldn't see GM using different wiring harnesses like that, so I wonder if I can make the lumbar work.
Anyone with experience?
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05-08-2009, 10:41 AM
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The power seats I have installed have simple 2 wire connectors, ground & hot. I doubt power lumbar adds to that, but I am not sure.
Power seats need pretty good power leads, like 12g or maybe 14g, and IIRC GM uses circuit breakers, not fuses. If I get time I'll check out a wiring diagram.
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05-08-2009, 03:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
The power seats I have installed have simple 2 wire connectors, ground & hot. I doubt power lumbar adds to that, but I am not sure.....
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yeup. 2 wires and thats it.
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05-08-2009, 07:16 PM
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the power lumbar seats in my trans am that i had original had like 6 different wires going to it. orange is hot, black is ground. there were a few others like blue, purple and the like going on there. i went backwards from the deluxe to the standard leather so i just spliced the power into it. also there are vacuum lines that go to the bolsters to pump them up
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05-09-2009, 05:59 AM
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the harness may be tucked under the carpet
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05-09-2009, 06:56 AM
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i put trans am seats with the lumbar situation in my camaro. its just a hot and ground going into the driver seat, every f-body has the same one. you need to attach an air hose harness from the driver seat to the passenger seat. its 4 hoses. they don't give you much length so watch out. i would unbolt the center console to make life easier.
so ya there isn't separate power going to the lumbar, just a 3 foot air hose harness.
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05-09-2009, 07:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokingSS
the harness may be tucked under the carpet
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this is a good call, take a look. I know the 99 I stripped had all the wiring for a CD changer it did not have.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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05-09-2009, 09:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
this is a good call, take a look. I know the 99 I stripped had all the wiring for a CD changer it did not have.
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so did mine, but mine doesn't have any air hose harness for lumbar it doesn't have. i have the carpet out now. just the 2 wire power seat plug
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05-09-2009, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cbrrmike
so did mine, but mine doesn't have any air hose harness for lumbar it doesn't have. i have the carpet out now. just the 2 wire power seat plug
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yeah it came with the seats when i got them, i think it has a power and ground too now that i think of it, otherwise the switches wouldn't work on the passenger side. eh if you don't have it figured out i'll look at my seats monday.
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05-09-2009, 11:49 PM
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It worked out. Thanks guys! Had to remove center consol to wire. Formula looks a ton better with leather! Now I have my Mustang packed with the old cloth seats! Time to sell! I'll post pics when I get on a computer.
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