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			06-21-2009, 11:55 AM
			
			
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				trans id + need a clutch
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			71 firebird that came with a 3speed.  before I pu the trans back in i want to put in a new clutch.  These are the casting i was able to pull of the trans, can anyone tell me what i have. 
 
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also i have never dealt with a manual trans nor buying a clutch. if anyone can point me in the right direction i would really appreciate it.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			06-21-2009, 03:05 PM
			
			
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			I don't know which it is but it should be either a Muncie M12 or M13.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-21-2009, 09:00 PM
			
			
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			Dr Google tells me 3925647 is a Saginaw 3-Spd 
 
A stock replacement clutch is probably fine.  I see Delco kits around $110.  Looks like there are some variations so I hope you still have your old stuff.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-21-2009, 10:02 PM
			
			
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				I don't know which it is but it should be either a Muncie M12 or M13. 
			
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 should be but its not, upgrade sometime in the future but for now it will do just fine.  
 
thanks bonzo, just wanted to make sure.  Yea i do have my old clutch. Can u post where or pm me where u are looking.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			06-21-2009, 10:06 PM
			
			
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			I just looked it up at rockauto.com
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-21-2009, 10:19 PM
			
			
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				I just looked it up at rockauto.com 
			
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 thanks. and the what should i look at from my old clutch to make sur ei get the correct one.  It was just a plate and two disks, what should i measure. Sorry if these questions seem really basic info to u guys but i have never dealt with clutches so im trying to learn somethings from scratch.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			06-21-2009, 10:34 PM
			
			
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			I'm not 100% sure the difference between Raised Diaphragm and Flat Diaphragm.  Someone smarter then I in these things will probably pipe in.  Maybe Josh. 
 
Buy it local, maybe at your local Napa, that way if it is wrong returning it is easier.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-23-2009, 09:14 PM
			
			
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			On the Luk site, I see this: 
LuK RepSet 04-002 
Application 1971 Pontiac Firebird - 8 Cylinder, 350" 
Description 3-Spd, 2Bbl 
Disc Specifications 
Outside Diameter 10 3/8" 
Spline 1 1/8" 
Teeth 10 
Flywheel Type - Flat 
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			06-24-2009, 07:51 AM
			
			
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			Im just gona go up to napa on saturday and bring my old one like u said. engine is out of a 73 (400) trany is from who know when or where, but is a saginaw 3 speed.  hopefully they can match it up. thanks for the help
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			06-24-2009, 08:54 AM
			
			
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			If it has all 3 "tabs" on the side cover then it's a Saginaw.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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