creatine or no? - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

caratemymoney · 08-19-2009, 09:18 PM

does anyone here use it? does it help or is it a waste?

HeadlessNorseman · 08-19-2009, 09:26 PM

ive had it recomended to me from several successful weight lifters. I have never tried it myself. I was told to take 5g when i wake up and 5g after your workout. Will prob pick some up this weekend

WildBillyT · 08-19-2009, 09:27 PM

Yes, it works. Yes, you need to drink a lot of water. Yes, there are side effects. Do not buy Cell-Tech. Do not take it lightly like you are taking a new vitamin.

Camvill · 08-19-2009, 09:36 PM

yes it works and you can definitely tell when you are on it. It is pointless to take it though if you are going to be consuming lots of alcohol.

WildBillyT · 08-19-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Camvill

yes it works and you can definitely tell when you are on it. It is pointless to take it though if you are going to be consuming lots of alcohol.

Alcohol and weightlifting never go together. Been proven many times.

caratemymoney · 08-19-2009, 09:43 PM

do you lose the strength you put on if you stop taking creatine but keep up with your normal workout?

Camvill · 08-19-2009, 09:45 PM

no creatine just superhydrates your muscles. They will look bigger and you will recover alot faster but you wont lose strength when you come off of it.

WildBillyT · 08-19-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by caratemymoney

do you lose the strength you put on if you stop taking creatine but keep up with your normal workout?

Technically no?

But it boosts strength and fatigue resistance by boosting ATP levels.

caratemymoney · 08-19-2009, 09:56 PM

so if i add 20 or 30 pounds to my bench or squat or whatever, and i stop creatine, ill keep it if i keep up my normal workout?

WildBillyT · 08-19-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by caratemymoney

so if i add 20 or 30 pounds to my bench or squat or whatever, and i stop creatine, ill keep it if i keep up my normal workout?

Not necessarily. You will keep some of the strength but your performance will be different.

madness410 · 08-19-2009, 10:00 PM

ive heard of people taking the biggest craps of their lives taking creatine

WildBillyT · 08-19-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by madness410

ive heard of people taking the biggest craps of their lives taking creatine

That's very helpful.

You will get mud butt and cramping if you don't hydrate.

madness410 · 08-19-2009, 10:36 PM

i would try to help him out but ive never read into creatine lol

LTb1ow · 08-19-2009, 11:26 PM

What are some negative effects?

HeadlessNorseman · 08-19-2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise

What are some negative effects?

i would also like to know. Ive heard about the water thing. I drink a ton already, i average at least a gallon and a half a day, and sometimes more on hardcore workout days. Would suck if i had to add more, but you gotta do what you gotta do!

procamaroz28 · 08-19-2009, 11:47 PM

you really dont need it... its effects dont last long its really just for some quick size...
i stopped it long ago and my strength is even better...

LTb1ow · 08-19-2009, 11:51 PM

Suppose it can't hurt to try it at least for one cycle.

91chevywt · 08-20-2009, 12:02 AM

I've used it before, and it does what it is supposed to. Quicker bulking up, faster recovery. There aren't any big drawbacks like using steriods...it doesn't shrink your balls, make you impotent, give you acne, or make you kick the dog when you come home. The only thing bad about it is you will gain a bunch of water weight. I seemed to be hungry all the time when I was using creatine also.

B4C · 08-20-2009, 12:42 AM

How would you ues creatine with whey protien? Is it a good idea to?

HardcoreZ28 · 08-20-2009, 07:09 AM

I'm surprised several of you guys have had positive results with creatine...especially you Bill. I've tried it numerous times and never saw any appreciable gains or aide in recovery. Had the original monohydrate, tried the effervescient stuff, CEE, and liquid. None did a thing for me as far as I could tell.

No problems using it in conjunction with whey protein. And if you're looking to help recover I'd suggest a good quality glutamine powder.

WildBillyT · 08-20-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by HardcoreZ28

I'm surprised several of you guys have had positive results with creatine...especially you Bill. I've tried it numerous times and never saw any appreciable gains or aide in recovery. Had the original monohydrate, tried the effervescient stuff, CEE, and liquid. None did a thing for me as far as I could tell.

No problems using it in conjunction with whey protein. And if you're looking to help recover I'd suggest a good quality glutamine powder.

They say that people's bodies react differently to it. I'm not saying I got an earth shattering change but I did notice extra fatigue resistance which is what I was looking for. The stuff I take is a mono+ some form of sugar blend. Glutamine is great stuff, I know that's in a lot of the protein powders now.

SNM: Are you serious? Did you not read the label of your Superpump?

There have not been any long term use studies but in the short term it's safe if you cycle it and keep your fluid intake up. During this time I always make sure to take a good multivitamin to make sure that I'm replacing the nutrients I may have flushed out with all of the water. Side effects are (and aren't limited to) cramping, bloating, diarrhea, raised liver enzymes, dehydration, anxiety, and a few other things.

LTb1ow · 08-20-2009, 08:28 AM

Serious in?

I was just curious about it, when I was in high school I am pretty sure a guy took to much and his body stopped producing it naturally.. not sure if thats possible...

WildBillyT · 08-20-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise

Serious in?

I was just curious about it, when I was in high school I am pretty sure a guy took to much and his body stopped producing it naturally.. not sure if thats possible...

Superpump has creatine mono in it already.

LTb1ow · 08-20-2009, 08:30 AM

Yea, I thought its a negligible amount though?

Either way, I pound my water so I think I am ok.

WildBillyT · 08-20-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise

Yea, I thought its a negligible amount though?

Either way, I pound my water so I think I am ok.

If it was negligible they wouldn't put it in there at all. I think it's 1-2g per scoop? I think a regular pre-workout dose of SP is 5g of creatine.