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11-05-2009, 01:17 PM
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MPG and Gears question.
Plans are to put in 3.73 gears and a True Trac LSD (torsen) in my 98 Bird. Right now with the 3.08 gears I average 27 mpg doing a lot of highway commuting. The car is stock with an automatic trans.
Wondering how the 3.73's will affect the mpg?
Can you guys post your MPG and gears? (and I don't mean mpg while drifting  )
Thanks!
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11-05-2009, 01:59 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Like 10-12.... 3.73s/3400 stall. LOL
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11-05-2009, 02:17 PM
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The Mayor / 2009 Member of the Year / Moderator
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3.23s, not even a full bolton lt1 A4
18-23 but never seen a full tank of highway
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11-05-2009, 05:31 PM
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Hmmm. Something tells me you guys don't do much highway. I would also gander that you got a heavy right foot.
Any commuters out there that eat up some highway?
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11-05-2009, 06:01 PM
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how do you have 3.08's?
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11-05-2009, 06:23 PM
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how do you have 3.08's?
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Thats what came in the Firebird Coupe in 98 without any performance handling options.
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11-05-2009, 06:41 PM
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not to wander off topic too much but, 2.73's, 3.23's, and 3.42's were the f-body gear choices from the factory
Last edited by sweetbmxrider; 11-05-2009 at 06:42 PM.
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11-05-2009, 07:10 PM
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I know that my 91 305/T5 bird had 3.08's.
Maybe since he has a V6, they put 3.08s in them?
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11-05-2009, 07:22 PM
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i dono, i dono anything really anymore
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11-05-2009, 09:05 PM
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subbing. I'm getting about 18mpg city/highway with a bolt-on LS1 & 2.73s.. thinking of upping to 3.73s. Wonder how the tank will take it.
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11-05-2009, 09:07 PM
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I think its more of your stall that will kill your MPG than gears. If you don't nail it off every line that is.
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11-05-2009, 09:25 PM
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Quote:
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Hmmm. Something tells me you guys don't do much highway. I would also gander that you got a heavy right foot. 
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What's a highway?
The 24 was on like 2/3 of a tank of highway, but that included some messing around as well, plus the rest was around my area with hills and such.
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11-07-2009, 01:30 PM
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Don't you commute to school? Ya know that wide road near your house that is always under construction? (I think they call it RT80??)
My 96 Camaro w/5 spd averaged high 20's if I remember right. Hope the 3.73's don't kill it much.
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11-07-2009, 08:22 PM
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Quote:
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Don't you commute to school? Ya know that wide road near your house that is always under construction? (I think they call it RT80??)
My 96 Camaro w/5 spd averaged high 20's if I remember right. Hope the 3.73's don't kill it much.
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That I do, but I rarely take Rt. 80, between traffic and construction it could take as little as 45 min or as much as 2.5 hours. I stick with backroads through Morristown, then Rt. 510 right to Seton Hall. And besides, Camaro has never been to school, only the Explorer...
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11-07-2009, 09:47 PM
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Can't speak from personal experience, but from what I have seen on the v6 forums and with friends with 3.8 F-bodies, the 3.73s will likely hurt your highway mileage a bit, but as long as you keep your foot off the skinny pedal, you should see an increase in around town mileage.
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how do you have 3.08's?
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3.08s were factory gears for a 3.8 / A4 without the performance package (which added 3.42s and a posi for auto cars, and just a posi to the stock 3.23s for M5 cars, as well as dual exhaust tips).
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not to wander off topic too much but, 2.73's, 3.23's, and 3.42's were the f-body gear choices from the factory
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These are the only 4th gen v8 gears offered from the factory.....v6s (and 3rd gens) got different options.
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11-08-2009, 11:18 AM
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yeah i didn't notice it was a v6 till it was mentioned
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11-08-2009, 11:26 AM
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'01 SS(decently modded...cammed, bolt ons)... 29 mpg highway(M6).... 3.42s
I can easily go 350 miles highway, upstate NY to NJ, on a full tank and have some left over for the next day.
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11-08-2009, 11:56 AM
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I'll guess you are going to loose about 5 MPG on the highway.
With my heads/cam LT1 = With 3:23 I was about 24MPG on long runs, with 3:42s I pickeed up a bit, around 26. With 3:73s I dropped to 20.
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11-09-2009, 09:24 PM
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ls1, intake, TB and catback, A4, went from 2:73's and no tune, swapped to 3:42's and a tune and now i get 15mpg with a very heavy foot and no highway, previously was in the 13mpg range with 2:73's and no tune
my old LT1 was in the 15mpg range with the 2:73's and a tune wen i didnt push it to hard
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