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View Poll Results: Are you in favor of such Endorsement tests to weed out the idiots?
Yes 10 26.32%
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Yes but without age restriction 6 15.79%
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Old 01-21-2010, 07:54 AM   #26
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why not go a step further...

17-18, current graduated license program
18-25, regular license, retest at 25 (this one is shorter due to young driver, and to get on even schedule)
25-35, regular license, retest at 35
35-45, regular license, retest at 45
etc
once the driver hits 65, go back to 5 year intervals.

UNLESS

a driver at any age has a moving violation or at fault accident. then they automatically get put into the 5 year bracket (maybe for the next 10 years, that way they retest 3 times in 10 years)

could work well i think... will keep the dumbasses in dmv, and might make people that drive stupid just for the hell of it from wanting to get into the 5 year program
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:03 AM   #27
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sounds lke that would work
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:14 AM   #28
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Mike, I like your idea but we all know someone somewhere would have a problem with it and there would be a bunch of loopholes, exceptions, and other legal jargon thrown in too. Gotta love politicians
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Old 01-21-2010, 09:53 AM   #29
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if you drive stupid for long enough, it catches up. you could also turn around and limit driving times. people with either violations or certain age/retest fails/whatever can only drive 8am-8pm or after dawn-before dusk or any number of fun things.
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:28 AM   #30
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I think it would be cool to have different classes of licences based upon a test and safe driving history. One residential and roads under 50 and a second class for highways. Might keep the poor drivers out of high speed situations. Easy to spot with a diferent colored plate. At least you would know who to keep your distance and keep the bad drivers from doing 60 in the fast lane.
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:40 AM   #31
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I think it would be cool to have different classes of licences based upon a test and safe driving history. One residential and roads under 50 and a second class for highways. Might keep the poor drivers out of high speed situations. Easy to spot with a diferent colored plate. At least you would know who to keep your distance and keep the bad drivers from doing 60 in the fast lane.
if Junior just borrows someone's car, he's not going to have his own set of license plates
I know I'm still not even listed as the "owner" of my car for financial/insurance reasons.
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:45 AM   #32
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There goes my idea.
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Old 01-21-2010, 12:17 PM   #33
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There goes my idea.
Thats the only problem with different classes of licenses and even coded plates (which was a good idea), it would be next to impossible to fully enforce and tons of loopholes would develop.
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Old 01-21-2010, 01:42 PM   #35
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I think it would be cool to have different classes of licences based upon a test and safe driving history. One residential and roads under 50 and a second class for highways. Might keep the poor drivers out of high speed situations. Easy to spot with a diferent colored plate. At least you would know who to keep your distance and keep the bad drivers from doing 60 in the fast lane.
actually, thats how it was in ireland. the big highway, pretty much like the gsp, the certain lesser experienced drivers were not permitted on them. there was a symbol on their car or on the orange vest of the motorcylers. that is a great law, make motorcycle guys wear a brightly colored vest. they always complain people don't see them, that would help some.

as for the loopholes/not in your name situation, you get caught, you pay. its like the hours restrictions on graduated drivers license or whatever it is. when they catch you driving when you shouldn't or if there are too many people in the car, you pay.
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Make the written drivers test harder than what it is now. probably 50% of people can pass it without ever reading the book, and the other 50% can usually pass it without much more than a read through of the questions they missed. If its harder and based on real life situations and common sense, the idiots wont be driving in the first place.
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Old 01-21-2010, 03:07 PM   #37
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Yup, agreed.

I would have no complaints if I had to recertify every 10 years and pay for it. Good way to make the state some money.... and great way to get idiots off the road.... and greater way to save in auto insurance.
Good idea in theory but, who's to say they will catch the "idiots"? Look at who they give a license to now.
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While license plates isn't the best idea I know other countries have signs provisional drivers have to put in the window, it notifies both the police and the cars around them. But again, it can be "skipped" but should come with a price
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You can't legislate safety with endorsements on a license. There are already too many laws that don't get enforced. Quit letting people dumb down the offenses in court and plead to non moving violations. Make people accountable for their actions. Once the insurance bill comes or the license is suspended maybe people will wise up. And if they don't wiseup at least they won't be on the road (legally anyway).

Retesting is a good idea. And the whole drive school thing to get points rubbed out, that should culminate with a driver retest, either written or field or both. No pass, no points rubbed out.
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I do agree with the overall sentiment but i am also very pro-freedom. Its a tough argument because driving is NOT a right, and therefor fundamentals of freedom technically dont apply... But, Its also not fair to punish the strong for the mistakes of the weak(or so to speak)

Edit: also agree with retesting. Police have to test for their weapons...A car is just as or even more deadly

Edit Edit: Im also a fan of making the license test much harder in general. Nothing extreme but something that definitely proves you are a competent driver and can properly manuever and stop different types of vehicles at highway speeds
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Old 01-22-2010, 04:44 AM   #41
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How about making the driving test itself harder, screw the written test. A dumb****, retarded monkey could pass that(yet, ironically I know people that have failed it multiple times). How about making the "driving" part more than a quick drive around the block, into the parking lot for a parallel parking job? Take someone out on Rt130 or 295...now THAT is driving.
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lol my driving test was around a little shanty town course at bakers basin
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How about making the driving test itself harder, screw the written test. A dumb****, retarded monkey could pass that(yet, ironically I know people that have failed it multiple times). How about making the "driving" part more than a quick drive around the block, into the parking lot for a parallel parking job? Take someone out on Rt130 or 295...now THAT is driving.
IIRC the written test has too much stupid in it, like fines & non-driving facts, and not enough driving related questions. they might have changed it since the old days. lol
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I took my test in '98 when I was 18(yeah I waited, didn't feel I was ready at 16 and half) so I'm sure it has changed since then.
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IIRC the written test has too much stupid in it, like fines & non-driving facts, and not enough driving related questions. they might have changed it since the old days. lol
Without a doubt. I took it 5 years ago and I had Form "c" and it was close to half of just fines/punishments (i.e. jail time, points).
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The written exam has things like how far must you park from a stop sign/fire hydrant etc. but I'll admit @ 21, I don't remember any of them
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The written exam has things like how far must you park from a stop sign/fire hydrant etc. but I'll admit @ 21, I don't remember any of them
Nobody does, that's why they put up signs and paint the curbs...
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