2012 Camaro won't be a Z28 - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

NJ346 · 02-09-2011, 09:30 AM

Just saw something pop across the internet, I'm sure Al will chime in with more info, but for now, this is what I have:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7eD0...layer_embedded

Specs from Camaro5.com

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2012 CAMARO ZL1
6.2L Supercharged V8 LSA
6 Speed Manual Transmission
Heavy Duty Driveline
Magnetic Ride Control
Brembo Brakes
Electric Power Steering
Track Ready Cooling Systems
Aggressive bodywork, including vented hood, Transformers 3 style bumper, special wheels
New steering wheel and interior trim with nice silver accents throughout

maroman88 · 02-09-2011, 09:36 AM

just saw a video... gave a web address of chevrolet.com/camaro-zl1, however that comes back page not found... so i duno

BigAls87Z28 · 02-09-2011, 09:38 AM

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...ro-zl1-100307/

Someone at Chevy is listening. Thank you

WildBillyT · 02-09-2011, 09:44 AM

Bummer about the name I guess. But nice to see something better than the SS out there.

sweetbmxrider · 02-09-2011, 10:09 AM

That thing is going to be a beasttttttttt

Tru2Chevy · 02-09-2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT

Bummer about the name I guess. But nice to see something better than the SS out there.

Would you have preferred it be the Z28, or something else entirely?

I am glad that they didn't end up choosing Z28 for this setup, doesn't fit at all for the car. ZL1 probably isn't the best fit either though.

- Justin

LS1Hawk · 02-09-2011, 10:18 AM

Whatever the name, you're going to need deeeeep pockets for this car.

WildBillyT · 02-09-2011, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

Would you have preferred it be the Z28, or something else entirely?

I am glad that they didn't end up choosing Z28 for this setup, doesn't fit at all for the car. ZL1 probably isn't the best fit either though.

- Justin

Could be Z28. I'd have been cool with that.

Granted, the original ZL1 was a FAIL back in the day, but the RPO was associated with something that was really out there for the time.

Honestly, I'd rather see a ZL1 turbodiesel than this thing. This is like a mini-ZR1-partial-CTS-V deal. To me ZL1 will always be the cutting edge of what GM is capable of- not just a normal powerplant shoved in a pretty normal car.

V · 02-09-2011, 10:21 AM

should have made it an IROC-Z, lol

BigAls87Z28 · 02-09-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT

Could be Z28. I'd have been cool with that.

Granted, the original ZL1 was a FAIL back in the day, but the RPO was associated with something that was really out there for the time.

Honestly, I'd rather see a ZL1 turbodiesel than this thing. This is like a mini-ZR1-partial-CTS-V deal. To me ZL1 will always be the cutting edge of what GM is capable of- not just a normal powerplant shoved in a regular car.

ZL1 diesel? I think this covers the cutting edge stuff.

WildBillyT · 02-09-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

ZL1 diesel? I think this covers the cutting edge stuff.

How so? There's nothing cutting edge about the powerplant, in the sense that it's already available and nothing new out of GM. Or is it very different than the CTS-V/ZR1 stuff? I'm sure you know more about it than I.

V · 02-09-2011, 10:45 AM

LTb1ow · 02-09-2011, 10:56 AM

Is it still gonna weigh in at blue whale status?

BigAls87Z28 · 02-09-2011, 11:26 AM

No numbers...but talk is 4100lbs.

LTb1ow · 02-09-2011, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

No numbers...but talk is 4100lbs.

BigAls87Z28 · 02-09-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT

How so? There's nothing cutting edge about the powerplant, in the sense that it's already available and nothing new out of GM. Or is it very different than the CTS-V/ZR1 stuff? I'm sure you know more about it than I.

1) what would a diesel Camaro offer that would be high tech?

2) the ZL1 was about advanced technology? What, aluminum engine blocks?

This ZL1 has magnetic shocks, dual mode exhaust, as well as electric power steering to adapt steering input depending on driving mode.
While the LSA has been around for a while, its still a high-tech engine with one of the most efficient superchargers ever made.

maroman88 · 02-09-2011, 12:13 PM

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hell muthafookin yes!

redsoxsstink · 02-09-2011, 12:47 PM

im still gonna find myself calling it a z/28

WildBillyT · 02-09-2011, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

1) what would a diesel Camaro offer that would be high tech?

2) the ZL1 was about advanced technology? What, aluminum engine blocks?

This ZL1 has magnetic shocks, dual mode exhaust, as well as electric power steering to adapt steering input depending on driving mode.
While the LSA has been around for a while, its still a high-tech engine with one of the most efficient superchargers ever made.

1) It would certainly be different and factory hipo diesel cars are not GM's forte at this point. Not saying that diesel is 100% the way to go, but it would be a different offering than what they currently have. This is starting to show up the the old iron circles, too. Everybody and their brother does an LS swap into something these days. As an example, the diesel Nova and Chevelle are really turning heads, with others following.

2) Uh, yes? Aluminum blocks were certianly around but not at that level and were significantly more rare. ****, aluminum HEADS were considered "out there", and that's proven by the $$ that L89 cars pull. There's a lot of engineering that went into that project that did not cross over into others. For the time it was very exotic.

Mag shocks have been done (I think back in C5 vettes?) dual mode exhaust has been done, as has electric power steering. Nothing new there.

I dunno, I just think a ZL1 should have a real "WOW" factor. Like the original, or the 572 4th gen concept. This strikes me as a CTS-V on the Camaro chassis (and that's not to hate on the CTS-V or the LSA which I would cut my arm off for), or alternatively it's a factory supercharged Camaro much like some of the tuners are already offering. I don't know what this car needs but it's lacking something to really make it pop. The ZR1 reeks of awesomeness, the CTS-V is a businessman's rocket ship, the diesel pickups have queen mary towing capacity, etc etc. Call it ZL1 if you want, just make it more wild. Considering the environment around the Camaro right now, this thing is downright mediocre.

qwikz28 · 02-09-2011, 01:23 PM

What the heck happened to the new interior for 2012? All I see is a new steering wheel

Frosty · 02-09-2011, 01:28 PM

I think it should have been called a Sport Coupe or Berlinetta

coolmanvette75 · 02-09-2011, 01:57 PM

i like it. i think they could have done a little bettet with the wheels and the interior, but oh well. and i dont care whats its called. all i care is that they get it into the showroom so it can smoke some mustangs

T69SS · 02-09-2011, 03:26 PM

Nice power numbers, but doesnt do much for me styling wise...

NastyEllEssWon · 02-09-2011, 04:26 PM

holy hell that thing is ugly, what the hell happened to the hood they were showing all over the concepts and what not. that thing screams mustang ripoff. still cant even get functional rear brake vents??

as for the name...couldnt of cared less either. z28 is more recognizable than zl1...told the news to my gf and she was like ''what the hells a ZL1''. seems like something they might have to end up renaming (ala ford 500/taurus). i dont like the giant wheels either. if it really is a zl1 i wanna see at least having the option to buy a stripper. that would be really cool.

Frosty · 02-09-2011, 04:39 PM

I keep hearing that people want a stripped down model...exactly what options would you want taken out? A radio? Power windows? Power locks?