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LTb1ow · 10-04-2009, 01:36 PM

Yup, nice stacks, and we were able to set the boat down at whatever angle etc.

Although a stack of blocks would be safer than digging a pit in the back yard and having your car straddle it. IMO.

thunder · 10-04-2009, 02:07 PM

i was planning on checking with the the town on monday and also checking for pipes and such. as far as safety goes my dad built one with his father in Poland so we know more or less what were doing with this one.

And when i use blocks to hold up my car i never used a block with a gap. i borrow some driveway pavers from my friend who owns a company. these are actual stone.

sweetbmxrider · 10-04-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by thunder

i was planning on checking with the the town on monday and also checking for pipes and such. as far as safety goes my dad built one with his father in Poland so we know more or less what were doing with this one.

And when i use blocks to hold up my car i never used a block with a gap. i borrow some driveway pavers from my friend who owns a company. these are actual stone.

now it makes sense, you're Polish

so am i

thunder · 10-05-2009, 01:36 AM

yup polish born so i got my improvised method of Auto repair

JL8Jeff · 10-05-2009, 11:25 AM

Cinder blocks will break under a car or truck! I tried it 20 years ago and I don't think they're any stronger now. Always use jackstands(as many as possible) and even leave the floor jack under the jacking point when possible as extra backup. A pit is not a good idea and I doubt it will be legal in NJ anyway.

Anti_Rice_Guy · 10-05-2009, 12:18 PM

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Cinder blocks will break under a car or truck! I tried it 20 years ago and I don't think they're any stronger now. Always use jackstands(as many as possible) and even leave the floor jack under the jacking point when possible as extra backup. A pit is not a good idea and I doubt it will be legal in NJ anyway.

Our 3500 lb boat sits on it's trailer of unknown weight all fall/winter/spring on cinder blocks because we take the wheels/tires off. It hasn't fallen or moved in the 20 years that I've been alive.

Knipps · 10-05-2009, 12:33 PM

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Our 3500 lb boat sits on it's trailer of unknown weight all fall/winter/spring on cinder blocks because we take the wheels/tires off. It hasn't fallen or moved in the 20 years that I've been alive.

yes nick but how many cinderblocks? it's already been discussed about the distribution of weight

LTb1ow · 10-05-2009, 04:12 PM

Its not the amount, its how you load the blocks more than anything else. And Nick, a trailer boat is not gonna weigh much in point loads like a car will.

Anti_Rice_Guy · 10-05-2009, 04:43 PM

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yes nick but how many cinderblocks? it's already been discussed about the distribution of weight

2 under tongue of trailer and 2 under each rear corner.

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Its not the amount, its how you load the blocks more than anything else. And Nick, a trailer boat is not gonna weigh much in point loads like a car will.

Yeah

LTb1ow · 10-05-2009, 04:44 PM

And its wrong Nick. Depending on how much you loaded on the tongue that stack is horrible.

BonzoHansen · 10-05-2009, 04:53 PM

Nick anyone that would work under that (and remember that is the topic of discussion) is an idiot. That is scary on balance issues alone, let alone block failure. Lay under it and shake the **** out of it like your Al fighting your panhard rod it will fall.

See Matt, that is my point in pictures. Look at that fail waiting to happen. You can't say "it's ok" without 14 paragraphs of "but..." - and they likely won't read the detail anyway. You can't really lift a car high enough to make a nice stack (or I might guess if you can you also have proper tools).

LTb1ow · 10-05-2009, 04:54 PM

Fine, point taken. LOL. People do dumb things.

BonzoHansen · 10-05-2009, 04:55 PM

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Fine, point taken. LOL. People do dumb things.

LOL! Yup.

thunder · 10-05-2009, 04:56 PM

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2 under tongue of trailer and 2 under each rear corner.

Yeah

even i dont trust that set up

BonzoHansen · 10-05-2009, 04:57 PM

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even i dont trust that set up

Why? Because it looks like my 8 year old could walk over and push it down?

thunder · 10-05-2009, 04:59 PM

this is the setup i used to change out my drive shaft among some other little things

LTb1ow · 10-05-2009, 05:03 PM

Not bad, relys heavy on your parking brake to actually work.

thunder · 10-05-2009, 05:06 PM

well that wasnt the final set up. the final set up i put bricks under the jacking point at the back so the rear wheels were free the front left had a block in front and behind the tire. also i know those are stone blocks so there not gonna crack

BonzoHansen · 10-05-2009, 05:06 PM

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Not bad, relys heavy on your parking brake to actually work.

And it relies.

What he said, you need to keep it from rolling.

Isn't it easier to change a DS when the rear axles can turn?

If you have enough money for mods like a driveshaft you should have enough money for decent jack stands and tools.

LTb1ow · 10-05-2009, 05:07 PM

I only have a jack, and I only got it a while ago. Bricks ftw.

BonzoHansen · 10-05-2009, 05:08 PM

If you want to play with cars buy tools. Harbor Freight has nice 6 ton stands on sale for $29 this weekend.

LTb1ow · 10-05-2009, 05:10 PM

I will go get some concrete blocks from work and use them. And take pictures.

LOL

thunder · 10-05-2009, 05:11 PM

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If you want to play with cars buy tools. Harbor Freight has nice 6 ton stands on sale for $29 this weekend.

thats a pretty good deal. ill swing by this weekend. and i dont have the money for tools all the money i make goes to college

BonzoHansen · 10-05-2009, 05:13 PM

Start with the basics. Safety basics especially. Go on their website sign up for emails they will send you 20% coupons.

Anti_Rice_Guy · 10-05-2009, 05:37 PM

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And its wrong Nick. Depending on how much you loaded on the tongue that stack is horrible.

Go try and move it. It's survived hurricanes, a tree falling on it, and has been under the same setup since I've been alive, idk about before my time.

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Nick anyone that would work under that (and remember that is the topic of discussion) is an idiot. That is scary on balance issues alone, let alone block failure. Lay under it and shake the **** out of it like your Al fighting your panhard rod it will fall.

I'm not working under it. It's just sitting there. We jack it up, put the tires on, and bring to boat ramp. And as stated, it's damn solid. My mom and I were in it walking around lifting stuff out of the boat and it didn't budge one bit.