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09-15-2005, 09:12 AM
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not news, but a confirmation (been-hiding)
Osama Been Hiding
we knew where he was, and who let him escape. this is merely confirmation of that event. now what we need is some intelligence on where he is now and send a SEAL team in to take him out. dammit.
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09-15-2005, 09:48 AM
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 He needs to die and when they catch him i don't even think they should "arrest" him like they did to saddam. I mean yeah they beat the **** outta saddam but....i say you just straight up kill his monkey ass and call it a day. It'll never end with this whole terrorist **** its like trying to put out a fire with gas. It's a lose-lose situation.
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09-15-2005, 11:57 AM
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While his death is warranted, a big public display will only give renewed purpose to those people. A SEAL team, with one well placed bullet, could end it all very quietly, very permenantly, without sending the Islamic world up in arms. Let the rest of the world think he's still running around out there.
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09-15-2005, 03:57 PM
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he has too much money to be cought in a corrupt contry...
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09-15-2005, 04:24 PM
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Unfortunately no matter how we kill him, those people will make him a martyr.
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09-15-2005, 04:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PDubs87Z28
....It'll never end with this whole terrorist **** its like trying to put out a fire with gas. It's a lose-lose situation.....
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09-15-2005, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PA_GregSS
Unfortunately no matter how we kill him, those people will make him a martyr.
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That's fine by me. We'll kill them too.
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09-15-2005, 05:26 PM
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I hope to god they find him and have an accidental "Trigger Slip" To bring him around Alive would cause a international **** storm, and the instant he gets on TV he will spew is propganda and all that jazz. I just say end it nice and clean, and broadcast the images of his body all over the world.
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09-15-2005, 05:27 PM
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Find him
Pop a couple rounds in him
Keep him alive
Bring him to us
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09-15-2005, 06:43 PM
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Insult him on TV and watch the sympathetics come out... easier targets when they're in the streets shouting and bitching. It gets them away from their human shields which lowers collateral damages. I see it as a win win situation keeping him alive... for a while.
God bless the snipers and God bless that their snipers can't aim (when they hit that medic in the body armor who later treated his assasins for wounds, very cool story and video).
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09-15-2005, 09:23 PM
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Cant be that hard to find a group of people in the desert riding camels and having one hooked upto a dyalisasis machine (sp?)
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09-15-2005, 09:49 PM
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So you kill him then what? Remember "war on drugs" and how everyone tryed to kill Pablo Escobar, you did eventually but damn i can still buy cocaine!!! Â*
Someone wil just t ake his place, and you wont kill them all.
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09-16-2005, 06:34 AM
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That's the problem with the "War on Terror." It's going to be a never ending battle. You kill one, another takes his place. It's a never-ending cycle, but on the flip side, it's also something that has to be done because we can't just sit back at idle letting things happen.
Personally I say turn the who middle east into a glass parking lot. There's a reason there's so much turmoil over there. It sucks. If I lived in such a sucky place, I'd probably be pissed off at the rest of the world too. You don't find people in more amicable areas starting wars, do you?? (this was a joking paragraph btw).
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09-16-2005, 07:27 AM
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You have to get rid of Bin Laden because he's rich and has access to money to finance terror. Someone else may take his place, but if they don't have the money or resources it will hurt the terror effort.
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09-16-2005, 09:47 AM
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You have to get rid of Bin Laden because he's rich and has access to money to finance terror. Someone else may take his place, but if they don't have the money or resources it will hurt the terror effort.
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Well all that but I think more importantly it's about giving what is deserved. He was responsible for 9/11... so he must die. I could care less that the war isn't over, he's DEAD, I (along with many others in this country) would feel really good.
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09-16-2005, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Fasterthanyou
Well all that but I think more importantly it's about giving what is deserved. He was responsible for 9/11... so he must die. I could care less that the war isn't over, he's DEAD, I (along with many others in this country) would feel really good.
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Right you are, there. It would be a tremendous morale booster for the military (and % of the public that actually gives two ****s) and probably cause a huge upraise in the general public's opinion of how things have/are being handled.
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09-16-2005, 10:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JL8Jeff
You have to get rid of Bin Laden because he's rich and has access to money to finance terror. Â*Someone else may take his place, but if they don't have the money or resources it will hurt the terror effort.
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You wanna kill the resourse? Destroy Saudi Arabia, even most of the hijackers were from there but i dont see anyone bombing them. But we all know no one will touch Saudi Arabia because of the precious three letter word...
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09-16-2005, 12:30 PM
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Taking out Osama would bring a close to a bad chapter for a lot of people. It may not end the "war," but it will at least bring closure and maybe some peace could be brought to the families of all his victims.
And I never think "killing 'em all" is a bad idea!
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09-16-2005, 04:13 PM
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Quote:
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So you kill him then what? Remember "war on drugs" and how everyone tryed to kill Pablo Escobar, you did eventually but damn i can still buy cocaine!!!
Someone wil just t ake his place, and you wont kill them all.
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very true, but bin laden is especially significant because of 9/11. true, terrorism will still go on, but the person who planned 9/11 will be dead, and that in itself is satisfactory.
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09-16-2005, 06:06 PM
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Tsar
So you kill him then what? Remember "war on drugs" and how everyone tryed to kill Pablo Escobar, you did eventually but damn i can still buy cocaine!!! Â*
Someone wil just t ake his place, and you wont kill them all.
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very true, but bin laden is especially significant because of 9/11. true, terrorism will still go on, but the person who planned 9/11 will be dead, and that in itself is satisfactory.
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nicely put.
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09-16-2005, 06:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jola
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Originally Posted by Tsar
So you kill him then what? Remember "war on drugs" and how everyone tryed to kill Pablo Escobar, you did eventually but damn i can still buy cocaine!!! Â*
Someone wil just t ake his place, and you wont kill them all.
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very true, but bin laden is especially significant because of 9/11. true, terrorism will still go on, but the person who planned 9/11 will be dead, and that in itself is satisfactory.
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I guess if you just want to kill Bin Laden for a revenge type of deal then ill agree with you.
It's just that i was having almost the same argument with some other people and they seem to believe that killing Bin Laden will somehow resolve the whole terrorist issue. I guess they just cant comprehend that there're hundreds of groups just like Al-qeada, and they are just as ruthless. But i guess some people are just naturally dumb and i can't really help them
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09-16-2005, 08:49 PM
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I guess they just cant comprehend that there're hundreds of groups just like Al-qeada, and they are just as ruthless. But i guess some people are just naturally dumb and i can't really help them 
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i'm not surprised. there are some people who don't know that terrorism is a worldwide problem and some countries have 9/11s everyday. those same people seem to think we should withdraw from iraq, too.
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09-16-2005, 09:29 PM
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I guess they just cant comprehend that there're hundreds of groups just like Al-qeada, and they are just as ruthless. But i guess some people are just naturally dumb and i can't really help them 
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i'm not surprised. Â*there are some people who don't know that terrorism is a worldwide problem and some countries have 9/11s everyday. Â*those same people seem to think we should withdraw from iraq, too. Â* 
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I thought the war was a good thing at first but now its all stupid. You can't do anything to stop these people they're just ****ing nuts and it'll never change. They're ganna end up ending the world and we're all ganna die. There will never be world peace with these crazy mother****ers running around and IF we stop them then their kids will blow **** up after them.
If i go....its bound to happen to all of us so whatever.
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09-16-2005, 10:47 PM
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All I will say is, killing Bin Laden could go either way. If done right it can at least cut the American deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan (don't forget about our boys there). But more likely is that it will not make it any better, because the media WILL publicize the images, and Arabic media WILL publicize them in an anti-American manner. This will bring up more hatred from the RADICAL middle east (NOT ALL OF THEM ARE ANTI-AMERICAN TERRORISTS) and could rally more to their cause... but whatever. Once Bush is out of office things will look up, especially considering that we won't have someone running the country who benifits from oil sales.
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09-17-2005, 04:14 AM
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I totally agree. we have no need for that area of the world, aside from oil. the people are nothing but trouble.
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