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			Which tranny is better to go with a beefed up 700r4 or th350. Will have 2800 stall speed and is behind my 500 hp 383 stroker. Its a street strip car.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Which tranny is better to go with a beefed up 700r4 or th350. Will have 2800 stall speed and is behind my 500 hp 383 stroker. Its a street strip car. 
			
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				How much street & how much strip?  How important is OD?  Why isn't a 4L80E on the consideration list if you want OD with high HP? 
			
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			i got great prices on those two. The others cost a little to much as of now. Its more street then strip though
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I would go with the 700R4 if you're on the street more. As long as it's properly built it should handle that kinda power without much difficulty. 
 
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				I would go with the 700R4 if you're on the street more. As long as it's properly built it should handle that kinda power without much difficulty. 
 
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				What he said....and also why not a 200 4R? 
 
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			700r4 is pretty good unless you can get your hands on a turbo400 and enough money to make it bullet proof   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			4l80e with a manual tranny or hydraulic shift modifications are more expensive than a 400, but THE best option....bulletproof and overdrive....only drawback is that they are the size of a friggin jet-ski and weigh about 50,000lbs...at least that's what they feel like in 100 degree whether when you're picking it up by yourself
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			What torque converter are you going to buy that will hold 1000+ hp? I only have a little over 800 and mine was like $1100. TH400 with a manual valve body, brake, pro mod drum, roller bearing conversion, ultra bell, and everything else can cost way over $2000 to build by itself. 
 
But I am sure some dirt bag in a magazine you read dug one out of a hole in a junkyard in west virginia then threw some new frictions in it and now it is in a car that goes 8's for under $100 and a bag of Skittles.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				What torque converter are you going to buy that will hold 1000+ hp? I only have a little over 800 and mine was like $1100. TH400 with a manual valve body, brake, pro mod drum, roller bearing conversion, ultra bell, and everything else can cost way over $2000 to build by itself. 
 
But I am sure some dirt bag in a magazine you read dug one out of a hole in a junkyard in west virginia then threw some new frictions in it and now it is in a car that goes 8's for under $100 and a bag of Skittles. 
			
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			Thanks for assuming I read dirtbag magazine articles, but my dad owns a high performance tranny shop and therefore I have a little tranny knowledge myself.  I GUARANTEE  you I can get you a 400 converter that'll handle 1200hp for less than $1000.... and a spragless unit that candle handle quite a bit more for probably around $1000.   
 
Pro-mod drum? are you serious? You thought with 800hp you needed a pro-mod drum? 
And this roller bearing conversion...are you talking about replacing all the thrust-washers with torringtons?  That's a whole $50 "mod"...... 
 
I don't know who's doing your trannies, but I stand by my previous statement and can/will build one with a converter that will easily handle your 800hp for UNDER $2000...and it will be tested (on a dyno) AND guaranteed.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			If you want to start adding transbrakes/ alto and kolenes/ aluminum drums/ ultra bells/ different first gear sets/ straight cut gears....then yeah, the price would be quite a bit more, but a 400 doesn't need all that **** to handle a lot of horsepower. We have customers who have proved that for many, many years.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			By your own words your trans would have to built for under $1000 RETAIL core included. It is alot cheaper to build a hi-po box when all the parts are at your fingertips and you dont count your labor. 
 
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			I have people that I consider family that own a trans shop as well. In fact they build boxes for some of the best and fastest bracket/top sportsman racers in the country. 
 
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				Which tranny is better to go with a beefed up 700r4 or th350. Will have 2800 stall speed and is behind my 500 hp 383 stroker. Its a street strip car. 
			
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 Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but he DOESN'T need a trans capable of holding nearly 1000-2000hp. 
 
Given that his power ratings are modest and that it's a street car, I'd figure that that means no extra clutch packs or special valve bodies or even a really hot converter. Whatever will work reliably, keep the price down, and given the cost of gas keep him away from the pump as much as possible.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			Depending on the application. If he is honestly going to keep it mostly to the street a correctly prepared 700 will better suit his needs, The overdrive will allow a steeper gear out back which will help with et while retaining some driveability when off of the track.  
 
If it was more of a strip car with occaisional around town cruising then the 350 would be a more cost effective and simple route while remaining durable as well. Also the 350 has less rotating mass so that would help as well when it comes to shaving tenths. 
 
I have a few th350s out there in street cars that run anywhere from 11s to 9.70s so they will definately hold up under power again if properly prepared.  
 
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				I have people that I consider family that own a trans shop as well. In fact they build boxes for some of the best and fastest bracket/top sportsman racers in the country. 
 
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 I only took it personal because you made it that way. You questioned my knowledge and whether I could possibly deliver on the statement/s I made.  I will put one of our transmissions up against anybody's.  
 
As far as the converter statement I made, that was directed to you, not to the statement I made about the TC and Tranny for under $2000.....I said the tranny would be capable of a 1000+ ( chances are that there aren't too many cars on here with that) and the fact that he said he will have around 500hp means he doesn't need a billet, all out race converter. After all I was talking to the original author who was asking for advice. The 400 subject came up and i offered my opinion on that.
 
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