maybe its me this guy cant drive 09 vette

[johnjzjz]

http://jalopnik.com/398297/video-pro...urburgring-lap

[Jersyboyy]

I donno about you but it looked like he tore the road up in that car. He hit 170 before backing off the gas going out of the straightaway into a turn.
All I know is he can drive better than I can.

[qwikz28]

keep in mind the n-ring is lined with walls. if he spins, he will wreck. i know what you mean though, he damn near loses it on one bend

[sweetbmxrider]

he would have had a faster time if he didn't switch gears on the long straight away. he was at 176 then switch and dropped to 173ish and climbed up slowly to 179 when he hit the down hill. i mean its seconds, if that, but still slowed him down. other then that, pretty solid run.

[GP99GT]

i noticed the same thing on the straightaway

still some badass driving, a few turns he took with one hand on the wheel at like 120....F that

[Blacdout96]

AH! I noticed something, this time is ********! notice when teh timer starts, its at the end of the small straight heading into the left hander, but they stop the timer right after they come in to the right hander goign ontott h e small straight, this time is bugus and ******** HA! It really should be more like 7:31, how did noone pick up on that?

[sweetbmxrider]

yeah i dono, that is weird. he does a fast lap start too, kinda beat.

[Blacdout96]

oh, and they shouldnt of let this marketing/ engineer/ design dude whatever the hell he is drive it, they should of let Ron Fellows, or Andy Pilgrim drive it, woulda had a way better time

[GP99GT]

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

yeah i dono, that is weird. he does a fast lap start too, kinda beat.

they did the rolling start because thats how nissan did it with the GTR...most car companies are doing it that way

[WayFast84]

that looked so fun.

[qwikz28]

Originally Posted by Blacdout96

AH! I noticed something, this time is ********! notice when teh timer starts, its at the end of the small straight heading into the left hander, but they stop the timer right after they come in to the right hander goign ontott h e small straight, this time is bugus and ******** HA! It really should be more like 7:31, how did noone pick up on that?

its common practice to do a moving start and start the timer after the pits and end it before the pits... hence why the clock starts and stops at a different time

[BigAls87Z28]

Garage419.com already did a GTR vs ZR1 timer, and the ZR1 was still faster.

I think he did a good job. He's not just some random "designer". Jim Mero is one of the lead engineers on the Corvette.

[Blacdout96]

Originally Posted by qwikz28

its common practice to do a moving start and start the timer after the pits and end it before the pits... hence why the clock starts and stops at a different time

well thats bogus cause thats a portiong of the track they arent taking into account for. thats like qualifying at talladega, and starting the timer at the start finish line and then your time ends in the middle of the tri oval, theres still a lenght of track to go and anything can happen. plus there isnt a difinative place where they start and stop the timer, as you seen the GT-R started in a different place then the ZR-1, so as far as Im concerned, until Nurburgring utilizes a permenant start/ finish timer line, these times dont mean squat to me.

and lead engineer, big whoop, just cause you buy magnum condoms, doesnt mean you got a big wang. jsut cause he played a major role in developiong the car doesnt mean he know how to professionally handle it, ok sure he knows the car to detail, but that doesnt make you faster, that just makes you more knowledgeable. he got squirmy on the track a few times, and a more accurate, indepth time could of been made by a professional driver. the ZR-1 still doesnt impress me. go for the overall track record, and then youll get my attention, until then, meh

[BigAls87Z28]

Not all of the following lap times are comparable. A full lap of the Nordschleife, bypassing the modern GP track, is 20.832 km (12.944 mi) long. Most laps are completed 200 metres (656 ft) shorter for safety reasons. Full uninterrupted flying laps can only be done in closed sessions and race events like Castrol-Haugg-Cup.
Neither the ZR1 nor teh GTR did a full complete lap.

ZR1 has the fastest production car time at the ring.

[Jam]

Originally Posted by Blacdout96

just cause you buy magnum condoms, doesnt mean you got a big wang.

bahahhahaa

[BigAls87Z28]

I know many people have been very interested in how fast the ZR1 would be at the Ring…

Most car enthusiasts are quite familiar with the Nürburgring. Built in the 1920’s near Cologne, Germany, “the Ring” is considered to be the toughest and most challenging race track in the world.

Over the last two weeks, we have been doing our final tuning and testing there before we start ZR1 production cars. This morning (Friday June 27), General Motors development engineer Jim Mero drove the Corvette ZR1 around the Nürburgring in a time of 7:26.4.

Jim commented after the lap that conditions were good except for a strong headwind down the main straight and that the lap was solid, but he felt there were a few places he could have gone faster.

The car was bone stock with the exception of the communications and safety equipment. The tires were production Michelin Pilot Sport 2’s. These tires have been developed specifically for the ZR1 and will have impressive wet traction and wear (tread wear rating = 220), in addition to excellent dry road holding. Chassis alignment and vehicle height were set to factory specs. Likewise, the engine calibrations were absolutely stock, emissions compliant and the car ran on pump (not racing) fuel. The vehicle was exactly like the cars that will be built in Bowling Green, Kentucky and sold around the world later this summer.

Despite posting one of the fastest times ever run by a production car, Nürburgring lap times were not an over-riding priority in the development of the ZR1. The truth is, if the only priority was speed at the ring, the car would not be very pleasant to drive on American roads. The ZR1 is an incredibly capable track machine, but unlike most ultra-high performance cars, it is very easy to live with on a daily basis.

The timed lap was run with a rolling start, a departure from our previous practice of standing starts. This is more aligned with current industry practice. The lap was electronically timed and confirmed with two hand-held stopwatches. An in-car video will be posted when the engineering team returns from Germany. Look for it the week of July 7!

[qwikz28]

Originally Posted by Blacdout96

well thats bogus cause thats a portiong of the track they arent taking into account for. thats like qualifying at talladega, and starting the timer at the start finish line and then your time ends in the middle of the tri oval, theres still a lenght of track to go and anything can happen. plus there isnt a difinative place where they start and stop the timer, as you seen the GT-R started in a different place then the ZR-1, so as far as Im concerned, until Nurburgring utilizes a permenant start/ finish timer line, these times dont mean squat to me.

and lead engineer, big whoop, just cause you buy magnum condoms, doesnt mean you got a big wang. jsut cause he played a major role in developiong the car doesnt mean he know how to professionally handle it, ok sure he knows the car to detail, but that doesnt make you faster, that just makes you more knowledgeable. he got squirmy on the track a few times, and a more accurate, indepth time could of been made by a professional driver. the ZR-1 still doesnt impress me. go for the overall track record, and then youll get my attention, until then, meh

lol that was an entertaining read. i believe, and don't quote me on this, you can't speed past the pits in the n-ring. i believe its a safety precaution and its only allowed, as al said, during closed circuit events.

needless to say, the GTR and ZR1 vids were overlayed to start at the same point and in the end with an independant timer (to eliminate any variables in recording speed), the ZR1 was still ahead of the GTR. but i agree with you that i'd like to see the car in the hands of a great driver to really see what the car can do. he was very conservative with teh car while the GTR driver was really going to town on the car

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

The truth is, if the only priority was speed at the ring, the car would not be very pleasant to drive on American roads. The ZR1 is an incredibly capable track machine, but unlike most ultra-high performance cars, it is very easy to live with on a daily basis.

this is a good point. american roads are crap and i'd rather have a street car then a track car. unfortunately other companies have been using sophisticated suspension systems to allow drivers to adjust their car to the driving condition while Chevy has been employing a universal system that does not allow any adjustment. now, i'm not asking for anything as complicated as BMW's iDrive system, but even Volvo had something to this effect in their old S60R. if chevy is going to sell us a $100k supercar, i'd hope it was at least a little sophisticated.

[BigAls87Z28]

Actually...Jake...the ZR1 uses a Magnerehorical shock system, its very advanced and the fastest reacting suspension in the world.

[sweetbmxrider]

so if a crappy driver can post a time like that, imagine a professional. then imagine yourself as the crappy driver, because you are. eat it and enjoy

[BigAls87Z28]

I wouldnt say he is a crapy driver. 99% of the people on this site would put a 640hp supercharged 3200lb carbon fiber Vette into the wall or into the woods in one of the first turns.
They could have gotten Fellows or Magnusun to drive again. Papis or Pilgram as well.

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

ZR1 has the fastest production car time at the ring.

this, following the CTS-V at the track, and they had a pretty serious time, too.

maybe its me this guy cant drive 09 vette

i don't know how you can say he can't drive, though. that's a bs statement, if you ask me. the guy only 'almost lost it' once, and he still managed to come out of the turn at 65 mph. much faster than i would ever want to go in the twisties.

[79CamaroDiva]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

I wouldnt say he is a crapy driver. 99% of the people on this site would put a 640hp supercharged 3200lb carbon fiber Vette into the wall or into the woods in one of the first turns.
They could have gotten Fellows or Magnusun to drive again. Papis or Pilgram as well.

ill drive it, ill beat his time, and ill TRY not to blow it up. but i won't put it in the wall or woods..

[Blacdout96]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

ZR1 has the fastest production car time at the ring.

Radical SR8 is the fastest production car at Nurburgring at 6:55 :P

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by Blacdout96

Radical SR8 is the fastest production car at Nurburgring at 6:55 :P

i believe that car was a one of one, not a production car.

[johnjzjz]

Originally Posted by jims69camaro

this, following the CTS-V at the track, and they had a pretty serious time, too.

i don't know how you can say he can't drive, though. that's a bs statement, if you ask me. the guy only 'almost lost it' once, and he still managed to come out of the turn at 65 mph. much faster than i would ever want to go in the twisties.

Well i am going to go out on a limb and say this after being the team manager and builder for a road racing team ( motorcycles ) and with in 6 years won 3 national championships and had the opportunity to not only work on but drive a Rolex series car ( porsche ) - the vette was sloppy in the turns and hap hazard in the rpm shifting he also let it free wheel to many times shedding off time and the tires are garbage i dont care what they said about them but again thats just my take having had what opportunity's i have had in the past -- jz