10.0 and 12.0 Index Racing

NJSPEEDER · 03-22-2009, 08:16 PM

We are bringing two of the most popular points classes in the Northeast to the 2009 East Coast F-Body nationals!!!

General Rules for Both Index Classes:
Technical Inspection: All vehicles in competition must pass an NHRA technical inspection for the E.T. and M.P.H. they run
Staging: All racers are asked to use courtesy staging. Anyone wishing to deep stage may do so, but the courtesy time provided to get properly deep staged will be up to their opponent.

12.0 Index Rules:
General: Foot brake only, .500 pro tree, must pass NHRA safety tech inspection to compete.
Engine: Anything
Exhaust: All exhaust gases MUST be routed through muffler(s)
Power Adder: Anything
Transmission: Automotive type automatic or H-pattern manual transmission allowed. No clutchless, planetary, or transbrake equipped allowed
Tires: Anything
Body: Must resemble Camaro or Firebird. Aftermarket panels allowed
Electronics: ET prediction and drivers aids prohibited. No delay boxes, throttle stops, transbrakes, or similar electronic bracket/ET prediction equipment allowed.

10.0 Index Rules:
General: Transbrake or foot brake allowed, .500 pro tree, must pass NHRA safety tech inspection to compete.
Engine: Anything
Exhaust: Muffled or open exhaust acceptable
Power Adder: Anything
Transmission: Automotive type automatic or H-pattern manual transmission allowed. No clutchless or planetary type transmissions allowed. Transbrake OK
Tires: Anything
Body: Must resemble Camaro or Firebird. Aftermarket panels allowed
Electronics: ET prediction and drivers aids prohibited. No delay boxes, throttle stops, or similar electronic bracket/ET prediction equipment allowed.

[i][b]Prize Fund:
Winner: Starting at $75 + Trophy
Runner-up: Starting at $25 + Trophy

vegaken · 03-24-2009, 03:37 PM

Cool deal with these classes. The only thing is that most of them run on a .500 pro tree. Just thought you might want to stay consistent with all the other tracks in the area. Either way it would be a fun day. As long as the car is together i am in.

Ken

NJSPEEDER · 03-24-2009, 05:28 PM

Thanks for the suggestion Ken. Rules updated!!!!

mc73nova · 03-24-2009, 05:30 PM

I need to get an F-body ready. I dont normally run index classes but I love hitting the pro tree Friday nights at Island.

NJSPEEDER · 03-24-2009, 05:39 PM

I will be putting up the bracket class rules tonight

LTs1ow · 03-24-2009, 05:46 PM

For the 12 index, does that mean no cutouts?

NJSPEEDER · 03-24-2009, 05:49 PM

That is correct sir, 12.0 is a muffled class.

LTs1ow · 03-24-2009, 07:05 PM

Does a borlamouth count?

NJSPEEDER · 03-24-2009, 07:09 PM

As long as it has a "muffler" it counts

LTs1ow · 03-24-2009, 07:10 PM

Ok... so do dumps count?

NJSPEEDER · 03-24-2009, 07:40 PM

as long as there is a muffler before them

kazman · 03-26-2009, 02:04 PM

12.0 index is deep staging allowed? How about a trans brakes? Breakouts allow... on a double breakout do both loose or the least offender wins.

NJSPEEDER · 03-26-2009, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazman

12.0 index is deep staging allowed? How about a trans brakes? Breakouts allow... on a double breakout do both loose or the least offender wins.

Deep Staging: Good Question, Feedback Everyone?

Transbrakes: Not allowed in 12.0

Double Break-Out: Worst goes home, opponent stays in

camaroAL · 03-26-2009, 05:12 PM

u should run deep staging like the tracks do. if u wanna deep stage u can but its not acknowledged, so get in and if ur not in they aint waiting

NJSPEEDER · 03-26-2009, 05:19 PM

Basically, leave it up to the opponent to be courteous enough to allow the person to get in deep?

camaroAL · 03-26-2009, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

Basically, leave it up to the opponent to be courteous enough to allow the person to get in deep?

exactly!!

kazman · 03-26-2009, 07:50 PM

IMO in a 12.0 index on a pro .500 tree to cut a light you either have to deep stage and footbreak or go shallow off the trans brake. You might want to allow and honor deep for when both cars want to go deep. Sorry I won't be able to make this one. I have a points race on the same day. Also I deep stage and don't have a problem going deep with the autostart on and deep not being honored.

LS1 4Good · 03-28-2009, 12:14 AM

Could somebody explain deep staging to me? I've never understood it.

01blackz28 · 03-28-2009, 06:23 AM

when you stage you first the top light lights up, you inch up to the 2nd beam that goes, then if you inch even further the bottom light is just lit up. This can provide better reaction times for most. i dont think it should be allowed

kazman · 03-28-2009, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 01blackz28

when you stage you first the top light lights up, you inch up to the 2nd beam that goes, then if you inch even further the bottom light is just lit up. This can provide better reaction times for most. i dont think it should be allowed

You put on the pre-stage bulb, move forward and put on the stage bulb, then move even further to put out the pre-stage bulb. Ballpark it quickens you RT by .10, and slows your 60' and ET by .10. Deepstaging reduces the rollout. In the 12.0 class on a .500 pro tree, reaction times are going to suck if everyone has to footbrake shallow. If you forbid deep staging and trans brakes how will you deal with the savy racers who will go shallow then take a BIG bump? If you do allow deep then you will have to decide honored or not. Honored the deep stager puts "DEEP" on the car and the starter holds the tree. Not honored no "DEEP" on the car and the deep stager is on their own. Personally I love to race deep staged where it's allowed but not honored. IMO for this event I think you should allow and honor deep staging. Not everyone has a trans brake so I can see not allowing that.

NJSPEEDER · 03-30-2009, 05:15 PM

Anyone else care to weigh in on the deep staging issue before we make a final decision?

vegaken · 03-30-2009, 10:57 PM

I say make sure you get it in the beams in time. If you want to go deep that is your decision but don't hold anyone up. Courtesy staging should be in effect where both guys have to pre-stage before staging. After that what ever happens, happens.

bubba428 · 03-31-2009, 03:55 AM

i feel so left out this year.......lol V6 class? (joke)

Tru2Chevy · 03-31-2009, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubba428

i feel so left out this year.......lol V6 class? (joke)

Run your v6 in one of the bracket classes....

- Justin

camaroAL · 04-05-2009, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vegaken

I say make sure you get it in the beams in time. If you want to go deep that is your decision but don't hold anyone up. Courtesy staging should be in effect where both guys have to pre-stage before staging. After that what ever happens, happens.

+1