View Poll Results: DO you think seat belts save lives?
|
yes - seat belts save lives
|
  
|
30 |
88.24% |
no - seat belts kill
|
  
|
4 |
11.76% |
 |
|
08-28-2009, 04:26 PM
|
#1
|
Avatar Abuser
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: 08721-1716
Posts: 5,056
|
Do you think seat belts save lives?
well, like the question states, do you think they save lives? i should probably make two polls, one for today's cars and one for classic cars. but, i think, since we probably own both (k, most of us do) then it should include our experiences in both types of cars.
looking at the photos of the dead Judge makes me want to put a roll cage in the '69. now, that would save a life.
__________________
JSFBOA
Save a life.
N = R* fp ne fl fi fc L
Last edited by jims69camaro; 08-29-2009 at 11:41 AM.
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 04:31 PM
|
#2
|
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Sewell,NJ Washington Township
Posts: 2,416
|
i think yes deppending on the crash. where you get hit or what you hit and how you hit it. it could save your life.
__________________
1995 Pontiac Firebird - V6 few mods
1988 Mustang - supercharged, heads/cam etc...
2012 Mustang - 5.0 6spd / 437rwhp 420trq
Quote:
Originally Posted by LTs1ow
Verts are gay and stalkers ride in them.
|
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 04:34 PM
|
#3
|
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Edison, NJ.
Posts: 314
|
It depends. If you are wearing a seatbelt and your car gets jammed in between something and goes up in flames, and the seatbelt gets stuck, then you can't get out. You might be in a little bit of a situation.
But at the same time, if you roll over or something like that, then the seatbelt can save you from tossing around inside or possibly outside the car.
From helping my father with the tow trucking business, and other tow truck drivers themselves, can tell you that they have seen both sides of this questions numerous times.
__________________
1998 Z28- Intake, Exhaust, 193k miles
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 04:35 PM
|
#4
|
Join Date: May 2005
Location: under a roof
Posts: 2,034
|
I think it depends on the situation.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
__________________
1973 Chevy Nova - best e.t.-10.04 - currently disassembled
1989 Pontiac Trans Am GTA
2016 Dodge Durango R/T
2015 Ram 3500 Dually Cummins
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 04:39 PM
|
#5
|
Mongo the Meet Coordinator
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 16,938
|
Def like my seatbelt, feel un secure without it. Guess that is what you get for a lifetime of being told to wear one.
However, getting stuck in a car on fire due to a tied up belt is a reason I carry a knife. But going through the windshield is no good.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
|
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 04:40 PM
|
#6
|
Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 12,573
|
Jim,
I think your poll may be better written as "Do more good than harm"... whaddya think? Want me to change it?
I figure they save and kill, but more good than bad.
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 04:41 PM
|
#7
|
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Edison, NJ.
Posts: 314
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise
Def like my seatbelt, feel un secure without it. Guess that is what you get for a lifetime of being told to wear one.
However, getting stuck in a car on fire due to a tied up belt is a reason I carry a knife. But going through the windshield is no good.
|
Very true about the knife. More people should do it, but it will probably be used in the wrong way at somepoint.
__________________
1998 Z28- Intake, Exhaust, 193k miles
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 04:42 PM
|
#8
|
Mongo the Meet Coordinator
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 16,938
|
Off topic but yea... again, always prepared been driven into my head too... LOL
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
|
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 04:44 PM
|
#9
|
Banned
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,106
|
seats belts are situational and that is it, IMO they do just as much good as they do bad....
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 04:47 PM
|
#10
|
Mongo the Meet Coordinator
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 16,938
|
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
|
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 04:52 PM
|
#11
|
Token v6 Guy
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: No longer neon land :(
Posts: 5,703
|
I've been in the fire dept for 14 years
Countless training classes at various fire academies (nj, ny, pa etc)
Pursued a degree in fire science
Seen tons of car accidents
Been involved in many extrications
And been in two recent nasty car accidents
I have yet to see a situation where the seat belt caused the person to die.
I have yet to see a car explode/ burst into flames like in the movies.
Every instance I have seen where the occupants have not worn seat belts have always been hurt bad..... or died. I've seen people ejected from cars.
For me, I will ALWAYS wear a seat belt and anyone who gets in a car with me must wear a belt (I realize that someone is going to crack a joke about getting in a car w/ me etc)
__________________
2013 Dodge Challenger SRT8 - 12.079 at 116.45
2010 Ford Taurus SHO - stage 4+ tune and an intake - no times yet
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 04:53 PM
|
#12
|
Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 12,573
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saitin
seats belts are situational and that is it, IMO they do just as much good as they do bad....
|
No WAY is it a 50/50 proportion.
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 04:56 PM
|
#13
|
Banned
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,106
|
Maybe not 50/50 but I bet it is up there.
I've seen wrecks where people have died from getting a arm/leg/head caught in the belt or just have the belt malfunction and hold tight, most of those are from fires,cars in water, or side impacts.
seat belts help in smaller accidents sure but alot of fender benders most people would walk away from with minimal injuries anyways
Last edited by Saitin; 08-28-2009 at 04:59 PM.
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 04:57 PM
|
#14
|
Mongo the Meet Coordinator
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 16,938
|
So your saying that until there is a perfect safety restraint system, all other systems should be deemed too dangerous to use?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
|
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 04:58 PM
|
#15
|
Join Date: May 2008
Location: south & north nj
Posts: 1,482
|
ive never heard of a seat belt doing harm, and you hear all the time about people dieing in accidents because they didnt wear it, or only survived because they wore their seatbelt
my buddy was tboned at ~60mph on his side last year....there was no way he would have lived if he didnt have his belt on
__________________
99 Legacy - slow winter dd
04 GTO - less slower summer dd
84 Trans Am - Father's car - all original / original owner
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 05:00 PM
|
#16
|
Mongo the Meet Coordinator
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 16,938
|
Well a seatbelt focus the momentum of your body into pretty small areas across your chest and abdomen, I can see how people could sustain pretty nasty injures from sudden impacts. However, you can have broken bones etc fixed, broken bodies/skulls are tough...
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
|
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 05:01 PM
|
#17
|
Banned
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,106
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise
So your saying that until there is a perfect safety restraint system, all other systems should be deemed too dangerous to use?
|
Never said that, just saying in cases they do kill, just a lot more then you here about on the news.
I put mine on every time I get in a car no matter if I am driving or not.
all it is is a precaution it might help it might not.
Last edited by Saitin; 08-28-2009 at 05:02 PM.
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 05:02 PM
|
#18
|
Mongo the Meet Coordinator
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 16,938
|
I agree, but their benefits far exceed their downfalls... IMO of course.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
|
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 05:05 PM
|
#19
|
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Edison, NJ.
Posts: 314
|
Okay well once you get out of that seatbelt, you need to open the door. How about those automatic locks?
__________________
1998 Z28- Intake, Exhaust, 193k miles
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 05:08 PM
|
#20
|
Mongo the Meet Coordinator
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 16,938
|
Hammer to window. Der.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
|
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 05:16 PM
|
#21
|
8 Second Club
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,315
|
i think seat belts save more lives, then cause deaths. i wear it as does anyone who rides with me.
wearing a 5 point harness makes me feel even more safer.
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 05:17 PM
|
#22
|
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Edison, NJ.
Posts: 314
|
Well i dunno about you, i dont carry a hammer in my car
__________________
1998 Z28- Intake, Exhaust, 193k miles
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 05:21 PM
|
#23
|
Mongo the Meet Coordinator
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 16,938
|
You should. I always have random tools in my car...
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
|
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 05:21 PM
|
#24
|
Admin.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hamilton, NJ
Posts: 20,165
|
The overwhelming statistics is they do save lives. It's a no brainer. If the argument is the seat belt hurts, my guess is it hurts less than the dashboard/windshield/steering wheel.
Anyone who argues otherwise is pissing in the wind and is only really crying about it being law instead of personal choice. And is in fact the reason the law exists.
Now, if you want to talk about lap bets and such in old cars, no I hate them. My Camaros will get F&R 3 points.
__________________
Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
|
|
|
08-28-2009, 05:29 PM
|
#25
|
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Posts: 7,108
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddest434
i think seat belts save more lives, then cause deaths. i wear it as does anyone who rides with me.
|
__________________
2018 Camaro 2SS Redline package, ESC Novi 1500 tuned by EFX, Might Mouse wild catch can, GM STB, smoked ZL1 3rd brake light, Xpel XR Black 35% tint all around, Street Scene front splitter, C7 Carbon ZL1 side skirts, Drake Muscle Car Wickerbill spoiler
2010 Infiniti G37x-Moonlight White w/Graphite interior. Stock...for now. Xpel XR Black tint(hey it's a mod lol)
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|
|