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11-12-2009, 05:35 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
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Some help with value of a jeep
Someone wants to trade me an 89 Cherokee 110k it's lifted on 33's pushbar on oversize bumper, heavy duty roof rack, light bar front and rear, lights all over, really clean interior, paint is starting to fade but the floors are solid has typical rocker rust. He wants my 74 and $300 i like the truck but it has some bumpsteer I didn't like that. What's it worth?? He Asking $4k outright.
Last edited by B4C; 11-12-2009 at 05:40 PM.
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11-12-2009, 07:31 PM
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That truck is worth $2500 tops. All those modifications deduct from the trucks value.
Considering the fact that you can snag decent cherokees all over for real cheap $1000-2000 I would try to talk the guy down. Bump steer can be fixed btw. Probably needs a drop pitman arm to correct draglink angle or something similarly cheap.
Some info on your car would help.
O and PS the cherokee is the bastard step child of the offroading world. Unibody and offroading dont mix well. And as an FYI your pushing the front axle to its very limits with 33s. Plus if its got a 35 rear it junk. Often times ditched for 8.8s and dana 44s
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94 2wd SBSC Gmt400. 330CI LSX, Fast 102, Trickflow 205s, close ratio nv3500, 4.30/trutrac.
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11-12-2009, 07:42 PM
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There cheap but I'm not a hardcore off roader just cruise around wharton I just can't seem to move this damn car so I can get something better to dd
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11-12-2009, 08:38 PM
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That rack is ridiculous. I say no way unless he wants to start offering you a couple bucks. Lets put it this way. Its got no money in lift, a 2in lift is spacers and blocks. As I said the rack looks like ass, the bumpers arent anything special, and the tires arent even in the expensive range, not to mention they're ATs which arent anything special off road.
Idk I could see a truck like that being worth a value that high if it were say built to the 9's but the sad fact of selling modified vehicles is that is reduces value.
How much are you asking for your car and how much is it worth? IMO that guy should be offering you money in that trade. At the bone hes offering you an 89 jeep with a 110k mile drivetrain and a clean interior? As I said $2000 truck. Bumpers and 31in ATs with a spacer lift isnt worth $2000.
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11-12-2009, 09:03 PM
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Ronin's got it right. Not a good deal.
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11-12-2009, 11:18 PM
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that roof rack is huge and ugly but that's just me. i wouldn't trade for that
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11-12-2009, 11:25 PM
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nooooo deallllll
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11-13-2009, 12:13 PM
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No way. Those things are a dime a dozen. If anything like the previous poster said, YOU should be getting cash on the deal. Either way i would never do such a deal.
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Last edited by chemicalstylez; 11-13-2009 at 12:13 PM.
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11-13-2009, 01:25 PM
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I told him I didn't have the $300 cuz I had some college bills to pay and he said he wasn't interested. I found some cheaper ones jeepsunlimited.com
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11-13-2009, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by B4C
I told him I didn't have the $300 cuz I had some college bills to pay and he said he wasn't interested. I found some cheaper ones jeepsunlimited.com
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Clearly he owes someone $300 and was just trying to come out whole and with a different vehicle.
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11-13-2009, 03:14 PM
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Yea, no way is that truck worth $4k.
2" lift and 31s? Hope it's bumpstopped very well, otherwise those fenders will be getting 3 square meals of tire per day. Solid floors are certainly a plus, but I've seen 97-99 XJs with similar mileage and mods for for what he's asking.
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11-13-2009, 03:14 PM
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my xj runs low 16's bone stock... its pretty sweet
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11-13-2009, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
Yea, no way is that truck worth $4k.
2" lift and 31s? Hope it's bumpstopped very well, otherwise those fenders will be getting 3 square meals of tire per day. Solid floors are certainly a plus, but I've seen 97-99 XJs with similar mileage and mods for for what he's asking.
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Yeah after alittle searching Ive found some too I prefer the 97+ anyway. The bumpsteer on that truck was horrible!
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11-13-2009, 06:49 PM
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go with the newer model anyways thats older as you can tell by interior and body newer ones much better imo. I owned a 2000 cherokee and now have a 04 wrangler and lifted a few cherokees myself. Newer body style is so much nicer lifted and all compared to that style. For the one guy who said that jeep sucks offroad you must be misstaken for something else. I never had a problem with mine. I actually would rather that than most others. Its one of the most common things to lift and wheel being its so easy..No problems here with any of the ones i worked on. two of my friends have cherokees that i lifted and no problems with them.
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11-14-2009, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gotmudnj
go with the newer model anyways thats older as you can tell by interior and body newer ones much better imo. I owned a 2000 cherokee and now have a 04 wrangler and lifted a few cherokees myself. Newer body style is so much nicer lifted and all compared to that style. For the one guy who said that jeep sucks offroad you must be misstaken for something else. I never had a problem with mine. I actually would rather that than most others. Its one of the most common things to lift and wheel being its so easy..No problems here with any of the ones i worked on. two of my friends have cherokees that i lifted and no problems with them.
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Ok if your referring to this comment
"O and PS the cherokee is the bastard step child of the offroading world. Unibody and offroading dont mix well. And as an FYI your pushing the front axle to its very limits with 33s. Plus if its got a 35 rear it junk. Often times ditched for 8.8s and dana 44s"
Please dont take offense to this but your above statement is a completely generalized and typical "jeeper" statement. You cant rate an overall brands ability to be turned into an offroading vehicle simply because "you did a few lifts on them and they've turned out fine". Thats like saying well my LS1 is fast with a few mods so I guess my Cavalier will be fast with the same mods too.
The fact is Cherokees are unibody. If you thought it was bad for racing its 100x worse for offroading. Yes they have solid motor/trans/tcase combos in them. Yes the dana 30 front is good for what it is and yes the dana 44 or 8-1/4 that some came with are good strong units.
In the end they get beat up and bent up way easier than a full framed rig and they are a pain in the ass to install proper pull/recovery points from.
O and as far as newer models, why? Other than rust and interior factors? The newer models have unibearing front axles which are terrible for offroading.
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94 2wd SBSC Gmt400. 330CI LSX, Fast 102, Trickflow 205s, close ratio nv3500, 4.30/trutrac.
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11-14-2009, 02:09 PM
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newer models as for the jeep cherokees from 97-2001 that model style is much better. And to compare your ls1 to your cavalier makes no sense as if your taking about your motor to that motor it wouldnt be same but as for most jeeps they use the same motor you would know that if you where into jeeps. most are 4.0l i6 except for the newest jeeps wranglers and others that use 3.8l v6. so if we go back to motor to mote doing the same from one jeep to another its the same. and if you cant find hook points to be easy to get to as for installing them i beg to differ. so if you install a bumped that has tow points its hard to install a bumper your saying or a hitch. or even if you stayed stock its easy to get to if you use pelican hooks to connect to the jeep.
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11-14-2009, 02:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gotmudnj
newer models as for the jeep cherokees from 97-2001 that model style is much better. And to compare your ls1 to your cavalier makes no sense as if your taking about your motor to that motor it wouldnt be same but as for most jeeps they use the same motor you would know that if you where into jeeps. most are 4.0l i6 except for the newest jeeps wranglers and others that use 3.8l v6. so if we go back to motor to mote doing the same from one jeep to another its the same. and if you cant find hook points to be easy to get to as for installing them i beg to differ. so if you install a bumped that has tow points its hard to install a bumper your saying or a hitch. or even if you stayed stock its easy to get to if you use pelican hooks to connect to the jeep.
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There is goes, did you see it?
Yeah right over your head.
"Metaphor - speech in which an expression is used to refer to something that it does not literally denote in order to suggest a similarity"
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11-16-2009, 12:35 PM
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And your metaphor makes no sense but you can think that
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11-16-2009, 06:42 PM
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And your metaphor makes no sense but you can think that
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No I beg to differ. Your just dumb, and a typical jeeper.
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11-16-2009, 06:55 PM
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im just dumb what would that make you. For a person to know cars to compare to totally different classes of cars. You sir should just quit now.
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11-16-2009, 07:46 PM
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im just dumb what would that make you. For a person to know cars to compare to totally different classes of cars. You sir should just quit now.
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Like I just said your just dumb. You completely missed the point of my post and have no idea what your even arguing over now.
Ewww jeeps are awesome they all lift so well. Theres nothing wrong with them offroad at all no matter what jeep we're talking about. THAT was the point of my generalization about LS1s and cavaliers just like you generalized about ALL jeeps being good. Obviously you couldnt see that so like I said your dumb.
The metaphor had nothing to do with motors at all it was about brand generalization.
So as I said you dont even know what your arguing over.
Btw, way to take 2 days to come up with the rebuttal that what I said makes no sense. If you cant come up with a valid arrangement about the subject then just stop now because A) your wrong and B) your the typical jeeper that thinks that their the holy grail of offroad vehicles.
Unless your gonna start talking facts and specs to support what your claiming then go play in some 6in muddy puddles with the rest of your kind.
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94 2wd SBSC Gmt400. 330CI LSX, Fast 102, Trickflow 205s, close ratio nv3500, 4.30/trutrac.
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11-16-2009, 07:50 PM
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Quote:
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im just dumb what would that make you. For a person to know cars to compare to totally different classes of cars. You sir should just quit now.
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where is justin in all this!!!!
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11-16-2009, 07:59 PM
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where is justin in all this!!!!
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Idk maybe hes letting one go for once since this guys an absolute dult.
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11-16-2009, 08:01 PM
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where is justin in all this!!!!
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Me?
I'm not taking sides. For the offroading that I do, my daily driver Cherokee serves me well, and I have no complaints. If I was looking to spend my summers in Moab, or look for the biggest mud pits I could find, I would likely not be using a Cherokee (at least not without some fairly extensive mods).
Although I have seen a few Cherokees that would take either of those scenarios on without trouble.
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