maybe i shoudl jsut give you guys directions now so that you don't entirely have to rely on al to get here.

easiest thing to do is take RT38 west, which turns into RT195 west. once you gt near the city of trenton it turns into rt.29 north. after 6 ot 7 miles you will see West Upper Ferry Rd. it is at a stop light after you go past teh city of trenton. make a right onto west upper ferry and follow it. you will go through 1 stop light(at this light the road name changes to parkway ave) the next light you come to you will see marrazzo's thriftway and the firkin tavern, make the left into the parking lot.
this is about teh easiest way i can think of to get here from the shore area.
it only takes about an hour to get from here to al's house if that gives you guys any idea for time frame.
later
tim