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LTb1ow 07-30-2009 03:47 PM

Lifters.
 
At the risk of this turning into a nonsensical thread..


I need new lifters I think.

95 LT1.

I know I can get stock replacements which would be LS7 ones, but I am looking for alternatives.

Ideas?

RamAir95TA 07-30-2009 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowNoPromise (Post 621113)
At the risk of this turning into a nonsensical thread..


I need new lifters I think.

95 LT1.

I know I can get stock replacements which would be LS7 ones, but I am looking for alternatives.

Ideas?

What makes you think you need new lifters? The LS7s are OEM replacement lifters for all LT1s now (and can handle quite a bit). I'm running them in mine.

LTb1ow 07-30-2009 04:40 PM

I know they are OEM, however they also are shorter and I hate measuring PR length. Which would also mean I would need new PRs.

With a 1/2 turn pre load, I get little or no oil even after 30 seconds of idle (1000 rpm)

RamAir95TA 07-30-2009 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowNoPromise (Post 621135)
I know they are OEM, however they also are shorter and I hate measuring PR length. Which would also mean I would need new PRs.

With a 1/2 turn pre load, I get little or no oil even after 30 seconds of idle (1000 rpm)

Well, either way you're going to have to measure unfortunately. I switched from Comp Rs to LS7s and the LS7s were in the hole about .050" deeper. Is this on a new build or what? Usually it takes quite awhile to get oil to the upper valvetrain on new lifters/pushrods. On my motor, it took almost 3 minutes of priming before they were pumped up enough (and that's with the Melling 10552 pump).

Oil won't squirt out of the pushrods. It should barely dribble out, so what you are seeing may be normal.

LTb1ow 07-30-2009 10:01 PM

IDK, this is on an engine that is daily driven, so its not like first fire up woes.

sweetbmxrider 07-31-2009 07:16 AM

aren't there caddy lifters or something too?

edit: if they are stock replacement, wouldn't they retain stock/current pushrod length? unless you are switching from an aftermarket set i guess.

LTb1ow 07-31-2009 08:36 AM

Nope, stock replacement are some like .020 shorter in the cup that LT1s are.

sweetbmxrider 07-31-2009 10:22 AM

ok, thats kinda strange they don't do pushrods with them too, guess its not enough for gm to care.

LTb1ow 07-31-2009 10:25 AM

Was reading online, that even if you bring it to a dealer for work, they just swap lifters too... so I am not sure.

Batman 08-07-2009 07:50 PM

Yeah .020 probably won't hurt you, on a DD. Lifter problems are pretty rare, you sure they are bad? You would also definatley here an audible tapping if it was shot

LTb1ow 08-07-2009 09:37 PM

Eh, it was more of me wanting a peace of mind. Stock lifters from 1995 with 75k miles on em, should have been replaced when the cam was out.

91chevywt 08-07-2009 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShowNoPromise (Post 623635)
Eh, it was more of me wanting a peace of mind. Stock lifters from 1995 with 75k miles on em, should have been replaced when the cam was out.

75k isn't bad at all for hydraulic roller lifters. Even at that they shouldn't all go bad at once.

LTb1ow 08-08-2009 09:30 AM

You are reading over the whole part about peace of mind. ;)


And when the intake off, I can just adjust each valve when the lifter is on base circle right?

RamAir95TA 08-12-2009 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise (Post 623705)
And when the intake off, I can just adjust each valve when the lifter is on base circle right?

That's correct.

LTb1ow 08-12-2009 06:04 PM

Yea, did that, neglected to tighten poly locks on two rockers. Took it apart in the rain, on the parkway. Fun.

Slow Z 08-12-2009 07:33 PM

Save your money your lifters are fine... It's normal for engines to do what you describe. Let it run for a few minutes and warm up, before you know it oil will be everywhere

Pampered-Z 08-14-2009 09:03 AM

I've run a few sets of COMP R's in different motors with no problems, you just need to make sure you don't put the lash more then 1/th turn. The take very little preload. The Morels are suppose to be very good as well.

What is you oil pressure, and what weight oil are you running?

GP99GT 08-14-2009 10:17 AM

always always always check pushrod length

LTb1ow 08-14-2009 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pampered-Z (Post 625729)
I've run a few sets of COMP R's in different motors with no problems, you just need to make sure you don't put the lash more then 1/th turn. The take very little preload. The Morels are suppose to be very good as well.

What is you oil pressure, and what weight oil are you running?

60psi at a cold idle, 20 at a hot idle. 10W30 synthetic. I ended up getting LS7s. They are in and it runs well. I got my peace of mind. :lol:

NJ346 08-14-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise (Post 625878)
60psi at a cold idle, 20 at a hot idle. 10W30 synthetic. I ended up getting LS7s. They are in and it runs well. I got my peace of mind. :lol:

you like the LS7s? Can't go wrong for $130 if they last...

LTb1ow 08-14-2009 06:13 PM

They looked like lifters and so far have been acting like lifters. ;)

2nd engine I installed a set in, both engines are doing well so far...

RamAir95TA 08-15-2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise (Post 625894)
They looked like lifters and so far have been acting like lifters. ;)

2nd engine I installed a set in, both engines are doing well so far...

I've got them in my 383, and would reuse them again if I had to!

LTb1ow 08-15-2009 06:32 PM

Yup, they seem to be working just fine. Nothing stock left in my valvetrain now. :)


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