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11-20-2009, 09:40 PM
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NX Direct port system
To my understanding it a direct port without drilling the intake while putting the nozzles on an injector ring...
Anyone have expeirance with this?
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11-20-2009, 09:42 PM
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Have not read much good about them.
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11-20-2009, 09:49 PM
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I actually havent read anything about them... seems like a good idea, on paper anyway...
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2008 Sierra Vortec Max. 6.2 swapped, headers, Magnaflow catback, GMPP CAI, NHT optioned tow package.
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11-20-2009, 09:51 PM
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I can try and find some links for you, but I think people had problems with them either blowing out or running to lean/rich.
To me, dumping ~1000psi of nitrous into a injector hole and relying on stock rails to hold that in seems like a bad idea.
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11-20-2009, 10:00 PM
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By the time is leaves the nozzles, its not at a 1000psi. The Jets will knock down the pressure quite abit. To me it looks like a pretty good idea. A very simple direct port setup.
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11-21-2009, 01:01 AM
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Nitro Dave says he doesnt like them... Not sure why though..
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2008 Sierra Vortec Max. 6.2 swapped, headers, Magnaflow catback, GMPP CAI, NHT optioned tow package.
2006 GTO, 11.48 @ 118.3
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11-21-2009, 02:50 AM
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ill be doing a similar system but it isnt a composite intake in my case.
I have the NOS "NOSzels" which also mount under the injector.
I'll have more experience with it within the next year.
Im my application i have read of people having issues running a standard direct port setup(drilling and tapping) due to the shape/design on the intake and runners. By putting it under the injector for me, it gets it more directly into the cylinder.
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11-21-2009, 08:46 AM
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i can't seem to find it at the moment but i did read about issues with that setup. one thing could be with a wide pattern fuel injector, it may catch the side of the manifold and "drip" some.
definitely try looking around and call a few nitrous guru's. it is pretty slick not having to drill your intake but i remember there was some issue with delivery or mixture.
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11-21-2009, 08:49 AM
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Weren't you talking about running a Vic Jr. intake or similar anyways?
Direct port that shiznit.
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11-21-2009, 05:54 PM
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Weren't you talking about running a Vic Jr. intake or similar anyways?
Direct port that shiznit.
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I was going to do a Vic Jr and do a sheetmetal eblow with a carb style plate system... but saw this and thought a way to keep my bottom end and have a better system.
IMHO;
Nozzle < Plate on stock style intake < Carb style plate < Direct port
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11-21-2009, 06:54 PM
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Don't go halfway. Go big or go home.
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11-22-2009, 08:16 AM
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What is the big deal about drilling the manifold if you have to run a fogger? I am not a fan of the injector piggyback style either.
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11-22-2009, 11:01 AM
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pending on the intake, a carb style plate can be very close to the distribution advantages of direct ports with less plumbing. IMO
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11-22-2009, 11:31 AM
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Quote:
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pending on the intake, a carb style plate can be very close to the distribution advantages of direct ports with less plumbing. IMO
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This is why I was contemplating that idea as well.
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11-22-2009, 01:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
pending on the intake, a carb style plate can be very close to the distribution advantages of direct ports with less plumbing. IMO
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Whats wrong with doing both?
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11-22-2009, 04:16 PM
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nx piggy FTL
go with a big plate sytem or drill & tap the manifold.
seen some done underneath manifold for "sneakyness"
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11-26-2009, 09:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJ Torque
To my understanding it a direct port without drilling the intake while putting the nozzles on an injector ring...
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Draws too much fuel from your rails. Depending on the size of the shot and your fuel pump will starve your injectors.
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11-27-2009, 06:30 AM
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Not if you run an auxillary fuel system..
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11-27-2009, 09:58 AM
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ill be going with a single plane plate kit and a stand alone so i can spray race gas. its safer that way and muuuuuuuch less expensive
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12-01-2009, 06:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE
Not if you run an auxillary fuel system..
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Could you be a bit more specific? How are you hooking up an auxillary fuel system to this unit?
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12-01-2009, 06:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TEKHAWK
Could you be a bit more specific? How are you hooking up an auxillary fuel system to this unit?
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separate fuel rail should do it....
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12-01-2009, 06:57 PM
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NOS Pro fogger. Very nice system.
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12-01-2009, 07:01 PM
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You run a completely separate fuel system for just the nitrous.. Cell, pump and everything.
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12-01-2009, 07:06 PM
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Quote:
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separate fuel rail should do it....
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That nitrous system receives its fuel from the injector fuel rails. I know the system well and don't like it at all. When someone shows me an alternative way of supplying fuel for the nitrous, I'll reconsider.
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12-01-2009, 07:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE
You run a completely separate fuel system for just the nitrous.. Cell, pump and everything.
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I'd like to see what you've come up with. Any pictures? How are you hooking up to the rails.
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