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03-21-2009, 01:00 PM
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Crank/balancer bolt
Is there any way to get it off/on without an air gun?
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Originally Posted by LTb1ow
Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.
Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
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03-21-2009, 01:03 PM
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Long breaker bar and a prybar wedged between the flywheel?
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03-21-2009, 03:57 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJ Torque
Long breaker bar and a prybar wedged between the flywheel?
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Yep
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03-21-2009, 03:59 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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+1, just did it on an LS1.
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03-21-2009, 04:39 PM
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electric or battery impact?
you said without air, not without an impact 
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It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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03-21-2009, 04:40 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cbrrmike
electric or battery impact?
you said without air, not without an impact |
It would have to be a high end electric gun to move a crank bolt.
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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03-21-2009, 04:46 PM
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im sure my snap on gun could do it
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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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03-21-2009, 04:46 PM
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^yeah. we call em widow makers
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1999 Z28 Convertible. 6 speed swap, wide cowl hood, full hockey stripes, and a whining 10 bolt.
2008 Sierra Vortec Max. 6.2 swapped, headers, Magnaflow catback, GMPP CAI, NHT optioned tow package.
2006 GTO, 11.48 @ 118.3
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03-21-2009, 04:48 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cbrrmike
im sure my snap on gun could do it
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And last time I checked snap on is a high end brand. 
I used a 1/2 snap on electric for mine.
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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03-21-2009, 07:35 PM
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dewalt electric impact doesnt do it
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LTb1ow
Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.
Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
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03-21-2009, 07:51 PM
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C4 plastic explosive, the bolt is a BITCH
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03-25-2009, 01:12 AM
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what he said ^
they have a tool for holding the flywheel actually, and its quite nifty. i have one if you need to borrow it, it works 88x better than a pry bar, and wont go flying off.
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03-25-2009, 10:18 AM
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just give up and give me the car....
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03-25-2009, 10:22 AM
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just give up and give me the car....
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Your a real supportive friend 
Kasey, big ass pry bar. I know Firebird Tim has a couple good ones.
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03-25-2009, 10:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah
dewalt electric impact doesnt do it
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Stupid question, but you are using a fully charged battery, right?
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03-27-2009, 10:25 AM
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I don't think many battery powered impacts will get it, if memory serves it is like 250 FT LBS with a but-load of loctite on it. Can you get a good pnuematic impact?
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03-27-2009, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
Stupid question, but you are using a fully charged battery, right?
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electric = not battery powered
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03-27-2009, 11:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GP99GT
electric = not battery powered
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03-29-2009, 06:01 AM
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big ratchet, breaker bar and bump the starter. two seconds
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03-29-2009, 05:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
big ratchet, breaker bar and bump the starter. two seconds |
Fidget holding onto a breaker bar while someone bumps the starter = we'd see Super Fidget flying through the air with the greatest of ease
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04-01-2009, 04:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah
Is there any way to get it off/on without an air gun?
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yep, grow some man muscles!
in all seriousness, you're gonna need to keep the flexplate from spinning and use one long ass breaker bar.
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04-01-2009, 04:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DevilDougWS6
what he said ^
they have a tool for holding the flywheel actually, and its quite nifty. i have one if you need to borrow it, it works 88x better than a pry bar, and wont go flying off.
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i just put the car in 6th gear and use the emergency brake 
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04-01-2009, 04:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Batman
I don't think many battery powered impacts will get it, if memory serves it is like 250 FT LBS with a but-load of loctite on it. Can you get a good pnuematic impact?
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its up in the 200ft lb range, but after you do that, youre supposed to remove and throw that bolt out and install a new bolt @ 35 ft lbs or something way less than 200s
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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04-01-2009, 09:01 PM
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GM says torque the old bolt to 240lb/ft, to ensure the balancer is fully seated then remove old bolt and install the new bolt. Torque new bolt to 37lb/ft then an additional 140*
I found that the last 140* is way tighter than my 1/2 impact (625lb/ft) can do. Use blue loctite and get it as tight as you can!
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04-04-2009, 07:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 98tadriver
its up in the 200ft lb range, but after you do that, youre supposed to remove and throw that bolt out and install a new bolt @ 35 ft lbs or something way less than 200s
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Somehow I doubt they do that from the factory, and the it is 35 Ft LBS + 140 degrees of turn, it is up there.
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