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getting ready to build new engine for the 86 But
ive gone boost happy.with the success of the turbo mmotor in the rs. i want to build a boosted 355.heres were the hard choice comes in.my friend has a b&m blower that hell sell me.6-71 with manifold pulleys and belts for 700$'s.or i can get my hands on 2 t-70 ball bearing turbos for about the same cost.so i cant decide on which to build.ive always wanted a blower car, but twin turbos would be just as ****ing nice and i cant decide
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268 rwhp & 367.6 ftlbs @ 10 psi 3.1l
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07-19-2006, 12:04 AM
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ive gone boost happy.with the success of the turbo mmotor in the rs. i want to build a boosted 355.heres were the hard choice comes in.my friend has a b&m blower that hell sell me.6-71 with manifold pulleys and belts for 700$'s.or i can get my hands on 2 t-70 ball bearing turbos for about the same cost.so i cant decide on which to build.ive always wanted a blower car, but twin turbos would be just as ****ing nice and i cant decide

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street car or track car?
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07-19-2006, 12:09 AM
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i want to say track car,but i dont want to build something i cant enjoy and take out for a cruise
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#1 1989 RS - 3.0L V6 11.0-1 CR, LIGHTENED CRANK,J.E FORGED PISTONS, CUSTOM 280/284 .575/.575 116LSA ROLLER CAM, PORTED HEADS, PORTED INTAKE,CUSTOM TURBO KIT W/ BW S475,AW INTERCOOLER,METHANOL INJECTION, TCI STREETFIGHTER 700R4 W/ TCI 4,500 STALL,TWIN WALBORO 255'S & 83# INJECTORS
268 rwhp & 367.6 ftlbs @ 10 psi 3.1l
12.30's @ 112 3.1L @ 9 psi
??.?? @ ???? 3.0L @ 18 PSI
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07-19-2006, 12:24 AM
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i want to say track car,but i dont want to build something i cant enjoy and take out for a cruise
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WWJD? what would jacob do
i think twin turbos would do you better in a street car. the blower on the other hand will make some great wheel pulling torque from idle to redline  i'm gonna vote blower unless you can get your hands on a bigger single turbo. ideal would be a big single, maybe t-76 ball bearing turbo with alky injection and take the spray out of the 2.8 (if we can still call it that) and put it in the 86.
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07-19-2006, 01:27 AM
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the 2 t-70s i can get have a small enough ar on the hotsides they would actually spool faster then a single larger turbo
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268 rwhp & 367.6 ftlbs @ 10 psi 3.1l
12.30's @ 112 3.1L @ 9 psi
??.?? @ ???? 3.0L @ 18 PSI
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07-19-2006, 07:14 AM
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personally for a mostly track car id go blower....i just have a thing for blower motors.... turbos may be cool and practical and fast as all hell but i still get a hardon for a blower over a turbo
*edit* but if u decide to go turbo and u still want to build a blower motor ill donate my while u rebuild mine :}
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07-19-2006, 11:16 AM
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the 2 t-70s i can get have a small enough ar on the hotsides they would actually spool faster then a single larger turbo
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i dont think you will benefit from a faster spooling turbo on the track, for a track car you want the turbo to begin spooling really high up in the powerband.
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07-19-2006, 04:05 PM
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would he sell me the blower for the same price???
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07-19-2006, 04:45 PM
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want big single turbos? check supra forums, they got plenty most likely.
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07-19-2006, 06:10 PM
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268 rwhp & 367.6 ftlbs @ 10 psi 3.1l
12.30's @ 112 3.1L @ 9 psi
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07-22-2006, 08:26 PM
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It is way easer to control the power from a blower car, than a turbo car and a blower car will run on anything, fuel wise, if its an automatic the convertor speed will hurt you for street driving a turbo, and if its stick the motor speed to race it competively you will always be braking parts from high RPM starts, street turbos are fun because you almost always have a on the go kind of race thing going good luck pricy eather way jz
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07-22-2006, 09:12 PM
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Will the turbo setup be injected or carb?
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07-23-2006, 10:44 AM
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injected.prolly with a accel dfi system
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#1 1989 RS - 3.0L V6 11.0-1 CR, LIGHTENED CRANK,J.E FORGED PISTONS, CUSTOM 280/284 .575/.575 116LSA ROLLER CAM, PORTED HEADS, PORTED INTAKE,CUSTOM TURBO KIT W/ BW S475,AW INTERCOOLER,METHANOL INJECTION, TCI STREETFIGHTER 700R4 W/ TCI 4,500 STALL,TWIN WALBORO 255'S & 83# INJECTORS
268 rwhp & 367.6 ftlbs @ 10 psi 3.1l
12.30's @ 112 3.1L @ 9 psi
??.?? @ ???? 3.0L @ 18 PSI
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07-23-2006, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
It is way easer to control the power from a blower car, than a turbo car and a blower car will run on anything, fuel wise, if its an automatic the convertor speed will hurt you for street driving a turbo, and if its stick the motor speed to race it competively you will always be braking parts from high RPM starts, street turbos are fun because you almost always have a on the go kind of race thing going good luck pricy eather way jz
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the car is a 5-speed and i believe he has a launch program he can use to build up boost off the line. and trust me, dave is used to breaking stuff, i highly doubt thats even a concern for him
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07-23-2006, 02:20 PM
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injected.prolly with a accel dfi system
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Turbo all the way then! 6-71 have alot of grunt down stairs but run out of steam up top compared to turbo setup or even a centrifugal charger..
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07-23-2006, 02:30 PM
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dave is used to breaking stuff,
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lol aint that the truth,one day ill figure out how to stop breaking ****
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#1 1989 RS - 3.0L V6 11.0-1 CR, LIGHTENED CRANK,J.E FORGED PISTONS, CUSTOM 280/284 .575/.575 116LSA ROLLER CAM, PORTED HEADS, PORTED INTAKE,CUSTOM TURBO KIT W/ BW S475,AW INTERCOOLER,METHANOL INJECTION, TCI STREETFIGHTER 700R4 W/ TCI 4,500 STALL,TWIN WALBORO 255'S & 83# INJECTORS
268 rwhp & 367.6 ftlbs @ 10 psi 3.1l
12.30's @ 112 3.1L @ 9 psi
??.?? @ ???? 3.0L @ 18 PSI
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07-23-2006, 02:49 PM
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lol aint that the truth,one day ill figure out how to stop breaking ****
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unfortunately dave you must sacrifice one of the three:
1. going fast
2. alot of money
3. reliability
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Except Jersey mike, great kid, but the way he looks at me makes me feel like im in danger
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07-23-2006, 03:46 PM
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yup
#1 gota go fast
#2 not a whole hella lota money
#3 it sure as hell wont be reliable
lmao
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268 rwhp & 367.6 ftlbs @ 10 psi 3.1l
12.30's @ 112 3.1L @ 9 psi
??.?? @ ???? 3.0L @ 18 PSI
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