Thoughts on Shelby, Smokey, and signatures on cars...(pulled from another thread)

[JSPERFORMANCE]

My expertise is actually in signing the girlfriends but I will give it a try!

[LTb1ow]

Originally Posted by Blacdout96

I never expect to get far period. If I wass gonna be something, it would of happened already, so I jsut take it day by day.

Yea I feel you on that. God knows what the hell I am doing with my life.

[PolarBear]

Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE

for those who are interested, I will be available to sign your car, shirt, picture, girlfriend, or poster monday through friday 10-6 @ JS Performance 9 reetz avenue Hulmeville PA 19047..

Please sign my hood before it leaves! Just scrub off some of the mold and moss in a spot

I met Settlemire this year too, we are best friends now! I almost spit water all over him, that was great, oh the memories.

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by Blacdout96

Its one thing to say well I like such and such over Shelby. I didnt say he the greatest, everyone else sucks, infact you should all bow down to him, no, I expressed my views as to why he is one of the greatest minds in the history of automotive, and then all of a sudden you guys come out saying he's a scumbag, a shiester, Im not talking about his Legal problems and such, im talking about the hey day when racing was racing, when America was no where in sight in the europeans minds, when Ferrari was top do, and Ford would give anythign to knock them off that throne. Shelby has many achievements to his name, and I honor such a guy for what he has done. It would of been different if you would of said something like, oh well although Shelby might of had a strongpoint in developing endurance racecars, yunick had a knack for finding the grey area in rules, and making it work to his advantage. you see where that went, a nice comment to a nice comment.

Mike asked if he charged you to sign it. Why? Because CS is of questionable character with a history of holding his hand out - there were even some related details offered (wait, you said there were no facts). Your rebuttal above would have been pretty good. Basically “On the track – awesome history. Off the track? I don’t know nor care” would have been fine. But you chose to escalate it into some personal affront as if we were “trash talking your mom”, then you end up name calling, insulting the entire community here. You can’t choose to escalate an issue then complain you are being flamed. Nada, you can’t have it both ways. Either act like an adult or act like child.

[NastyEllEssWon]

Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE

My expertise is actually in signing the girlfriends but I will give it a try!

can you sign my NAWWWS bottle?

[NJSPEEDER]

Blckdout, I don't know what your deal is. For some reason you are taking it as some huge insult that we don't all hae the same automotive hero as you.

Wanna play the "I've met...." game, how about this, I have raced against 3 generations of Andretti's and they were all kind enough to whip my ass. I have met Roger Penske, Warren and Kurt Johnson, ate lunch with Eddie and Ercy Hill once, talked about racing with Kenny Schrader, I am on a first name basis with the 3 winningest drivers in DIRT modified history, got the dime tour of Pat Musi's first stacker trailer only days after he bought it, I have met all 3 Wallace brothers(Kenny the Herminator is by far the most fun), I hung out with Justin Wilson, Graham Rahal, AJ Almendinger, and a bunch of other cool cats at the Rolex 24..........and the list goes on and on.

All of the people I met make me exactly one thing, lucky. I have been graced in life to meet a lot of the heroes of the sport I love. All of the meetings by no means make my opinion better or worse than yours of anyone elses.

My opinion of Carrol Shelby was formed just like yours, with an outside view of the situation. Maybe I just lay more weight on all of the ****** stuff he has done, especially since he got older. Either way, it is still an opinion.

-Tim

[JSPERFORMANCE]

Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

Blckdout, I don't know what your deal is. For some reason you are taking it as some huge insult that we don't all hae the same automotive hero as you.

Wanna play the "I've met...." game, how about this, I have raced against 3 generations of Andretti's and they were all kind enough to whip my ass. I have met Roger Penske, Warren and Kurt Johnson, ate lunch with Eddie and Ercy Hill once, talked about racing with Kenny Schrader, I am on a first name basis with the 3 winningest drivers in DIRT modified history, got the dime tour of Pat Musi's first stacker trailer only days after he bought it, I have met all 3 Wallace brothers(Kenny the Herminator is by far the most fun), I hung out with Justin Wilson, Graham Rahal, AJ Almendinger, and a bunch of other cool cats at the Rolex 24, and best of all hung out with the JS Performance crew at Pinks All Out and drank all their booze..........and the list goes on and on.

All of the people I met make me exactly one thing, lucky. I have been graced in life to meet a lot of the heroes of the sport I love. All of the meetings by no means make my opinion better or worse than yours of anyone elses.

My opinion of Carrol Shelby was formed just like yours, with an outside view of the situation. Maybe I just lay more weight on all of the ****** stuff he has done, especially since he got older. Either way, it is still an opinion.

-Tim

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[Blacdout96]

Originally Posted by JSPERFORMANCE

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lol; nice. well NJSpeeder, I will say thats a good list, but I wont go into my list of who I met and what we did, cause im not gonna start another conflict here. to each his own. Im goign to end this on Shelby is a great guy, maybe you guys should meet him one day. He's done alot for the world of motorsports, and for car guys like us in general. Yes there are others outthere that have made quite a contribution, Like the great John Fitch, or Jim Hall. and these are the people I admire. Like I said, I dont like drag racing, and stockcar racing us so bland anymore, not even I can stand to bare and watch it. I like Vintage racing, I like cars that were years ahead in technology, like the Auto Union vs. Mercedes wars of the 1930's, and the Fordvs. Ferrari vs. Porsche era ofthe 1960's that new ideas were coming out so rapidly, that in 1960, some ofthe fastest speeds recorded down the mulsane straight were 150-170mph, to when the 1970's rolled around the Porsche 917LH's were around 240+mph!!! Were on differentpages of what we lke. NJSPEEDER is probably the closest to me in my fascination with road racing cars, so I dont have alot to relate to you guys. I dont know anyhting about drag racing, and NASCAR I watched since I was 7, but since my favorite Driver isnt rolling full time, I gave up on it.

As for a better answer to WF's question as to why do I put money into my car then when its just some V6, thats jsut it, it's a V6, a challange to me. just cause im missing 2 cylinders doesnt mean im not competative. also its better on gas, and as long as I keep people guessing as to what my car is, im happy with it. I dont need to go 10's to make me feel satisfied. I feel the CS signature does make it unique, maybe to me, idk, apparently its not unique to you guys, so im sorry to hear that, but like you guys say, to each his own. my car is unique, and looks damn good being unique. Im sorry to hear your not good with Fiberglass workings, which is why I have two spare 4.1gen hoods in my back yard that I work on to improve my abilities with it as well, even tho I worked around that stuff for years. get the cowl hood, get some aluminum, and make that Turkey pan WBT was talking about. but what would be NEAT for ya, is to get a leftover hood from someone, and try to build something while your car is on the road, and when your statisfied with it, strap it on, and show us. thats my suggestion.

[Mike]

the v6's getting better gas mileage argument is dead...ls1s commonly get mid to high 20s in the mpg department and i doubt the 3.8s were higher, i know my 3.4 wasnt

[Blacdout96]

...CBR wtf dude, are you really gonna pick apart my answer? your exactly the kind of person im talking about. chill the **** out, thats my opinion, damn dude.

to answer that then, first off, my car is a 96, so compare it to a LT1. my friend Fred wasent getting as good gas mileage with his LT1 as I was with my 3.8. Secondly, maybe it was the way you drove, or maintained your 3.4, theres a reason why they only ran that motor for 3 years, not enough umph to push a 3200+ pound car down the road. with 3.23 gears in my car ( its a rear from a 94 Camaro, so before you start crying they didnt have 3.23's in 3.8 automatics),I can go from here to conneticut, a 200+mile trip, and still have 3/4 of a tank left. I maintain my car really well, so that might be the contributing factor as to why my car gets good gas mileage, and probably other 3.8 owners dont get the same results, maybe they dont maintain, or drive like a grandma like me.

[Knipps]

Comparing mpg's is not an opinion.

[jims69camaro]

mark donahoe. read "The Unfair Advantage", then get back to me.
bob bondurant. he is one person willing to teach the most beginner driver to be able to take a road course, cut it up into neat little strips and have it for lunch. see "Bob Bondurant on High Performance Racing" or go take his course. then get back to me.

as far as Carroll Shelby, he is into rustnags. i don't like rustnags. i'd rather have the whole crew over at SLP, or Steve Spohn sign my car than CS. as far as i know, CS never had anything to do with my car. moreover, when it's done, the '87 will have more SLP and Spohn parts in it than GM oem stuff...

[NJSPEEDER]

Originally Posted by cbrrmike

the v6's getting better gas mileage argument is dead...ls1s commonly get mid to high 20s in the mpg department and i doubt the 3.8s were higher, i know my 3.4 wasnt

I get 29-31 depending on passengers and cargo on the highway and about 23-24 in my junky 8 mile stop and start commute through Trenton.

Stock V6's usually don't do that, but I know some modded ones that picked up a bunch of fuel economy. James and Craig both got better than stock mileage from their cars.

-Tim

[LTb1ow]

I get 20mpg in my LT1............ on the highway....

[WayFast84]

Originally Posted by Blacdout96

As for a better answer to WF's question as to why do I put money into my car then when its just some V6, thats jsut it, it's a V6, a challange to me. just cause im missing 2 cylinders doesnt mean im not competative. also its better on gas, and as long as I keep people guessing as to what my car is, im happy with it. I dont need to go 10's to make me feel satisfied. I feel the CS signature does make it unique, maybe to me, idk, apparently its not unique to you guys, so im sorry to hear that, but like you guys say, to each his own. my car is unique, and looks damn good being unique. Im sorry to hear your not good with Fiberglass workings, which is why I have two spare 4.1gen hoods in my back yard that I work on to improve my abilities with it as well, even tho I worked around that stuff for years. get the cowl hood, get some aluminum, and make that Turkey pan WBT was talking about. but what would be NEAT for ya, is to get a leftover hood from someone, and try to build something while your car is on the road, and when your statisfied with it, strap it on, and show us. thats my suggestion.

I honestly didn't care why you put money into your car..I know your car is nothing special.. I also know we don't need a reason to pour money into something we love so much...

Bottom line is you offered me a suggestion, and No one else thought it was a good suggestion, and then you got offended about it...

It happened in my thread and pretty much the same thing happened here.

[Blacdout96]

Originally Posted by jims69camaro

mark donahoe. read "The Unfair Advantage", then get back to me.
bob bondurant. he is one person willing to teach the most beginner driver to be able to take a road course, cut it up into neat little strips and have it for lunch. see "Bob Bondurant on High Performance Racing" or go take his course. then get back to me.

I really really really wanted that book this year when I was in Lime Rock, but its was too much. I heard its an awsome book, and when I saw it I thought of UBG, but I had a budget, and decided to go with a 1960-69 sports racing cars book. As for Bob Bondurat, I was thinking of going to his school, but I prefered to go to Skip's. 1 they have it at Lime Rock, and also cause I actually learned about Skip B's when I was 9! and always wantedto go since.

Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

I get 29-31 depending on passengers and cargo on the highway and about 23-24 in my junky 8 mile stop and start commute through Trenton.

Stock V6's usually don't do that, but I know some modded ones that picked up a bunch of fuel economy. James and Craig both got better than stock mileage from their cars.
-Tim

I took my intake off this summer to replace the lifters and pushrods to see if I collapsed one, but its more intermintent, anyways, I looked into my upper intake, god I cant believe they thought that would allow our cars to breath. a crappy design, and poor quailty. Im sending my intake and heads out to jarhead when I begin my rebuild, see if they can breath a little easier.

Originally Posted by WayFast84

I honestly didn't care why you put money into your car..I know your car is nothing special.. I also know we don't need a reason to pour money into something we love so much...

Bottom line is you offered me a suggestion, and No one else thought it was a good suggestion, and then you got offended about it...

It happened in my thread and pretty much the same thing happened here.

Listen , ill be honest, thats your opinion. maybe not to you, maybe not to anyone on this site, but you know what, my friends love my car, my family, since this car has stayed in it, are so glad to see it go to someone that properly had things done to it. I could of been some punk that put underbody strobe lights, and a rattle can in the back, and hauled ass around here. My car has come along way, and during that whole time, I got to drive it, it was road worthy. Only now am I retiring it from the streets so I can properly have a motor built and installed, and a few other chassis tweaks for it. It will get a 5 speed placed in it, the bilstein/Eibach setup all the way around, a quicker steering ratio, and at least one of my OMP 5 point racing seat built for it. My car is unique because how many V6's are on here, now how many are set up beyond what they were form the factory. I can count the amount on my 1 hand. now count the amount of LT-1's, 3rd gens, and LS-1's that are built beyond stock. More then you want to count right now right? My car is just as unique as I am cause I choose not to follow the crowd. I have had a few chances to have an LS-1, but I dont want one. all my vehicles besides my 79 have been V6's, and thats what I enjoy. Myabe later downthe road I will get a V8, but for now, a V6 is just fine, and its kept me out of the law im sure alot more then if I had 2 more cylinders squeezed between those fenders. I drive like a grandma, ask Bubba, but so what, Im not really ever in a rush, cept for work lol, but other then that, I EVENTUALLY get to where im going, cause i like cruising, so what do I need 2 more cylinders for if a V6 will cruise jsut the same.

Its hard to come on this site and talk to people on here. This place I once did feel was full of friendly people, but lately all you guys do is rip apart anyone who goes against the grain. its ashame. I know why UBG's site is more awsome, cause theres no judging there, you actually shoot the **** there. Wayfast, I hope you get your car done, you get the parts you want, and you enjoy the car. then bring it by my way, and we'll have a shootout with our whips, and shoot the ****, like good ol' jerseyan car enthusiest should be doing, like the old days of NJFBOA.

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by Blacdout96

I really really really wanted that book this year when I was in Lime Rock, but its was too much. I heard its an awsome book, and when I saw it I thought of UBG, but I had a budget, and decided to go with a 1960-69 sports racing cars book. As for Bob Bondurat, I was thinking of going to his school, but I prefered to go to Skip's. 1 they have it at Lime Rock, and also cause I actually learned about Skip B's when I was 9! and always wantedto go since.

Did you already go to Skips? If you did, kick me a PM with what you thought of it if you get a chance. I am deciding between SB and Bob B for a few summers from now and I'm gathering info from everybody I know who has gone to either.

Thanks

[Knipps]

Originally Posted by Blacdout96

I really really really wanted that book this year when I was in Lime Rock, but its was too much. I heard its an awsome book, and when I saw it I thought of UBG, but I had a budget, and decided to go with a 1960-69 sports racing cars book.

http://product.half.ebay.com/The-Unf...06067QQtgZinfo

Buy it Now for $15

[Blacdout96]

Get out!! sweet. They had a book at the place, thats fromthe 70's about the Mille Miglia, and had one of our cars we had in the museum this year, adn I was gonna buy it, but then I saw the price tag.....275 bucks!! wasent even leatherbound or anything.

[Knipps]

I'd check half.com for any books you're looking to buy and it helps to look at "other editions" for better pricing

[12secondv6]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Damn! Well, for everyone else that wants my signature to be placed on thier dash, please bring your car to either TGIF's in Brick tomorrow night or at trucks on Weds along with a 25 dollar donation to the Human Fund,
Human Fund: Money for People

I want to buy a challenger.... and have Al sign it

[12secondv6]

Oh and...... 3.8 L v6's CAN NOT be quick...... it is NOT possible .... waste of money

[WayFast84]

blacdout,

Im proud of you!!!

you know understand the concepts of opinions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[badzracing]

Originally Posted by 12secondv6

Oh and...... 3.8 L v6's CAN NOT be quick...... it is NOT possible .... waste of money

Anything can be quick if you make it light enough and spray the unholy hell outta it...try making a 5000lb brick fast....that was a challenge

[Blacdout96]

Originally Posted by WayFast84

blacdout,

Im proud of you!!!

you know understand the concepts of opinions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and one day you just might too wayfat