Ford Mustang eaten alive by 5th gen

[S.J.SLEEPER]

Originally Posted by baddest434

nah you just had an momentary lapse of reason. actually he's cool, just tries to chase newbs away all the time. he tried it on me too i'm still here.

but becareful with gay jokes with him. he'll more then likely try to take you up on an offer

friggin homos everywhere, i knew it !!!! him and sweetbmxridr..... a guy who puts sweet in his name gotta be !!!! and what does TSAR stand for (tounges shaft almost regularly?)

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Tsar

You infidel! How can you commit such blasphemy, this web site is for F-bodies only!11!!one!1one!

i love mine too.

Originally Posted by transmaro93

^^ thats all they got is 2 years... haha... because they had to plop on a blower to make some power out of their less to be desired mod motor 4.6... cobras might have been 5.4.. im not sure... i dont think they were i think the cobra R... was a blown 5.4... and rate... boost an f-body... lt1 even.... bye bye.... 03-04... claim to fame... get over it... haha... early mustangs 64-70.... gorgeous cars... even fox bodies are ok in my book... i even like the 94-98's... not a fan of the 99-04's... thought that was a hideous car... 05 started looking good again... tryed to improve on that and failed royally IMO... OH and btw... before i get the "well the DOHC cobra motor was fast" yea i had a freind who had one and lost to my little old lt1 bird.... so dont wanna hear that route... PS love the popcorn smily.... haha

if your going to talk ****, be correct. cobra R had a NA version of the 5.4. 03/04 cobras are 4.6 cars

and dont call ford old tech when your using pushrods

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by S.J.SLEEPER

and what does TSAR stand for

Wow, you uneducated sack of potatoes! It does not stand for anything, but it does translate into something...


P.S. Thanks for that one Bill!!

[Mike]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

04 GTO outsold the 04 Cobra.
But it was the GTO that was a flop.

gto = model
cobra = trim level

did gto outsell all 04 mustangs?

[baddest434]

Originally Posted by Tsar

P.S. Thanks for that one Bill!!

sorry vital's must be due to possible demetia

at least i said you were cool

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by baddest434

sorry vital's must be due to possible demetia

at least i said you were cool

have you been hanging out with JM, she's the only one that calls me that

[Mike]

Originally Posted by Tsar

have you been hanging out with JM, she's the only one that calls me that

melissa does too, or used to

[NastyEllEssWon]

Originally Posted by cbrrmike

gto = model
cobra = trim level

did gto outsell all 04 mustangs?

Hello there, My name is Mr. Nail....I'd like to introduce you to my friend hammer.



quoted for truth

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

how would it eat that bucket alive? they could run mid 11's N/A

Correction. With an intake + carb swap, headers, plugs and tuning (the equivalent of today's "bolt ons") they ran high 10's on a 1960's tech 9" wide drag slick. You gained 80hp by just disconnecting the factory exhaust - dyno proven.

Power numbers for the "terminator" are in the mid to low 400's. They are in the 5's for the ZL1, which is a lighter car (by 400 lbs) with better gearing.

[sweetbmxrider]

Originally Posted by S.J.SLEEPER

friggin homos everywhere, i knew it !!!! him and sweetbmxridr..... a guy who puts sweet in his name gotta be !!!! and what does TSAR stand for (tounges shaft almost regularly?)

wtf how did i get thrown under the gay bus? must be a guido. ****in guidos....

Originally Posted by WildBillyT

Correction. With an intake + carb swap, headers, plugs and tuning (the equivalent of today's "bolt ons") they ran high 10's on a 1960's tech 9" wide drag slick. You gained 80hp by just disconnecting the factory exhaust - dyno proven.

Power numbers for the "terminator" are in the mid to low 400's. They are in the 5's for the ZL1, which is a lighter car (by 400 lbs) with better gearing.

well thats just ****in sick. so the termy would get bent over by the zl1. LOVE IT!

[S.J.SLEEPER]

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

wtf how did i get thrown under the gay bus? must be a guido. ****in guidos....

sorry bout throwin you in the mix, seemed like you and tsar were "buddies" ! you gonna make that dinner date w/ him tonite? he's supposed to pik u up @ 6

[sweetbmxrider]

tsar and i usually argue about everything cept ugly turd gens

[S.J.SLEEPER]

ugly turd gens ughhhhhh .... i own 1 turd gen & 1 4th gen. really lov my 4th gen too bad turd gen is the only one runnin !!!

[baddest434]

Originally Posted by S.J.SLEEPER

ugly turd gens ughhhhhh .... i own 1 turd gen & 1 4th gen. really lov my 4th gen too bad turd gen is the only one runnin !!!

see you can always count on the turd gens

my turd gen always runs and runs WELL

but man we get no love!!!! friggin 80's haha

[S.J.SLEEPER]

nobody ever talks about the 70-81 era of fbodies.... we should post up a poll on who likes/dislikes them. i would if i knew how to do it.
i personaally didn't like any from that era,maybe just the smokey & the bandit car!

[Mike]

70-73 ftw.

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

camaro shares its platform with a four door. want heritage? go tell me the last time a camaro shared its platform with a 4 door. i also didnt say ttops were NECESSARY...but it would have been nice.

Do you really really want to get into this?

The "original" fbody was in fact derivied from the upcoming 1968 Chevy II/Nova, which BTW came as a 4 door, and a 2 door, and a wagon. It was a sedan based platform.
Thats pretty ****in "herritage" to me. The 2nd gen moved foward with a revised set up of the first gen.
Third gen gets its chassis design from the X bodies of teh late 70's.
4th gens were just a revision of the third gen.

in the last few years ford has done a better job than chevy at turning around their image. the live axle also helps cut some costs too.

Where did you get that little nugget of info? In the last few years, Chevy has retaken the #1 sales spot from Ford.
Ford has only recently seen some sort of boost because its the only one that didnt line up for money.

camaro to me lost is pony car roots. its supposed to be bang for your buck. back when the 4th gen lt1 and ls1 cars were romping around the avg sedan was a boring plastic throwaway with a boring v6 doing high 16s on the 1/4 mile. now even the camry runs in the 14s.

Are you friggin serious?
Lets get into every ounce of this.
Lost its pony car roots? It lost its roots in 1993, when it turned into a 4 seater Corvette, and moved away from the daily driveable personal sports car that the Camaro started at. Camaro offerd more then the Mustang from day one, giving mroe performance, handling, and comfort.
Bang for the Buck? Do you remember what LS1 SS cars cost back in 2002? I do, they cost as much as the current SS does now!!! 30k!!! Thas back in 2002 money.
And even more, do you remember what Mustang GT's cost? Under 25k.

Your "average" sedan comparision is ********, and you are using numbers to justify your comparision.
First off, your average 4 cyl midsized sedan like the Camry made 120-140, and running 17's at best. But V6 models produced power at and around 200hp, right in line with what the base model V6 Camaro put out in 1995.
Now we move fowad to today's cars.
Average midsized sedan with a 4cyl makes 175hp and runs 16's.
The average midsized sedan with a V6 now makes hp in the 260hp all the way up to 290hp. They run all in the 14's. The Camry has 268hp, and weighs in at 3300lbs. The horsepower wars have also kept up in other parts of the automotive world. The new Buick LaCrosse gets the same V6 that is found in the Camaro, making 285hp or around there. A Buick! Havent seen a 285hp+ Buick since....and im talking about advertised.
Your "average" sedan is a bit more above average compared to 5-10 years ago.

40k bucks for a car that does the same thing as my old 98 did doesnt impress me one bit. id rather take the mustang that does it for 10 grand cheaper and gets me a higher model

40k? Camaro starts at 31k. i saw a fully loaded one, with the ground effects and stripes, just reach over 40k.

Originally Posted by cbrrmike

gto = model
cobra = trim level

did gto outsell all 04 mustangs?

That wasnt the question.
And further more, they are of equal comparision.
Both are higher end sports coupes, making 350hp or more, with IRS, 6spd manual trans, and upgraded interior.
They were priced about the same, at least MSRP vs MSRP.
Both were low production units geared at the higher end performance coupe market. Trim, no trim. Model, no model. They are aiming for the same people.

Originally Posted by S.J.SLEEPER

nobody ever talks about the 70-81 era of fbodies.... we should post up a poll on who likes/dislikes them. i would if i knew how to do it.
i personaally didn't like any from that era,maybe just the smokey & the bandit car!

I dispise the late 2nd gens.

[LTb1ow]

Third gens are ugly, slow, and outdated POSs.

Ok, added my two cents. Continue with the stupid.

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Do you really really want to get into this?

The "original" fbody was in fact derivied from the upcoming 1968 Chevy II/Nova, which BTW came as a 4 door, and a 2 door, and a wagon. It was a sedan based platform.
Thats pretty ****in "herritage" to me. The 2nd gen moved foward with a revised set up of the first gen.
Third gen gets its chassis design from the X bodies of teh late 70's.
4th gens were just a revision of the third gen.

Footnote:

The '67 Camaro and '68 Nova were developed at the same time. One was not based on the other. That's straight out of the mouth of Chuck Hughes. But that doesn't take away from the fact that the first gen Camaro shares a lot with 4 door cars.

[baddest434]

Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise

Third gens are ugly, slow, and outdated POSs. except baddest434

Ok, added my two cents. Continue with the stupid.

ugh fixed it for you
and you want me to do you a favor
Toooooooooooool

[S.J.SLEEPER]

Originally Posted by bigals87z28

do you really really want to get into this?
I dispise the late 2nd gens.

yeah, i will give some credit to the early 70's ya know split bumper model and all

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by S.J.SLEEPER

yeah, i will give some credit to the early 70's ya know split bumper model and all

Yeah...I know

[S.J.SLEEPER]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Yeah...I know

DUDE !!! thats your ride? i think i just nutted in my pants !
besides that & my old 67 i had i don't think there is any other nicer cars someone could drive.

hats off to you man... that thing is sweet.
i will have to make one of these meets just to see it in person.

[BigAls87Z28]

Thank you
That picture is a few years old now I guess? That was before all new suspension. I think that was when I just picked up the new rims/tires.
It looks different now. I actually just put a new intake on, and as of the other day, it just wouldnt start. Ill have to play with it on Saturday if it isnt too bad outside.

[S.J.SLEEPER]

you still sbc/carb ? or did you ruin it by goin efi ?
i take it that its still carb and its got a holley strapped on it and thats why it wouldn't start. holleys so tempermental to temp/humidity change. i put a hp950 on my turd gen. what a difference, all i had to do was set the idle, seems like it pulld another 1000 in r's too.