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08-22-2009, 07:01 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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hahahahaha nitro sisters are so funny when the team up... i love it!!! talken to al today... he hasn't even got an ls1 yet... and hes already developing his nut huggen sensibility... its scary what ls1's do to people... false sense of reality on the world..... haha sorry AL j/k budd
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08-22-2009, 07:10 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Mays Landing area NJ
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Originally Posted by JL8Jeff
So 30-40 minutes later after removing the AIR pipes, moving the wire harness, trying to find the rear coil(you can't even see it) I would have had the starter dropped on an LT1 and the plug out and new one in and starter back in place. LS1's are not easier than LT1's to work on in a 4th gen. They each have their different PITA parts to deal with.
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Air pump pipes are held in by 2 bolts, remove the 10mm bolts holding the coilpack in (unless you have a 98 which each coil pack is individual) Disconnect the wires to harness easy Acess. LS1's are easier to work on. Almost any big budget shop will discriminate against LT1's and also most shops that post there prices will only post their price to work on a LS1 F-car. A few former sponsors of this site will tell you the same thing. I work with my hands everyday but i'm far from a mechanic and I have done almost everything imaginable on these LS1 cars. I have owned 7 LS1 cars and 5 LT1 cars. The LT1s were usually driven to the shop for some repairs. I even got so frustrated with my very last LT1 car i took it to the stealership to get repaired and i didn't even care about cost. That is something i would never ever do!
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08-22-2009, 07:11 PM
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#78
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
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The horse is dead already.
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08-22-2009, 07:15 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: manchester, NJ
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Originally Posted by CJDZ24_Z28
Air pump pipes are held in by 2 bolts, remove the 10mm bolts holding the coilpack in (unless you have a 98 which each coil pack is individual) Disconnect the wires to harness easy Acess. LS1's are easier to work on. Almost any big budget shop will discriminate against LT1's and also most shops that post there prices will only post their price to work on a LS1 F-car. A few former sponsors of this site will tell you the same thing. I work with my hands everyday but i'm far from a mechanic and I have done almost everything imaginable on these LS1 cars. I have owned 7 LS1 cars and 5 LT1 cars. The LT1s were usually driven to the shop for some repairs. I even got so frustrated with my very last LT1 car i took it to the stealership to get repaired and i didn't even care about cost. That is something i would never ever do!
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from someone who works on all makes and models of cars everyday... nothing is hard to work on once you figure out how they come apart... if you get frustrated that easy then thank god you aren't a mechanic.... might I ask what it was that set you off enough to take it to the dealer??
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08-22-2009, 07:16 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Mays Landing area NJ
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Originally Posted by Firebird67dude
Atleast LT1 are REAL 350 ci. not 346. MY LT1 has 190000 and runs 13s all day with only full exhaust.
Some LS1 people seem like the most arrogant people on earth. God bless the LS1. Put it to rest already its a dinosaur motor. Theres the LS2, LS6, hell theres an LS7 and a niner in there right? LS1 and dinos. update ur motors.
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Hey ALL the motors you mentioned are based off of the LS1........... and don't forget there is a LS3  Also 95% of these parts are interchangeable so the LS1 will live on for a LONG time
I personally have nothing against the LT1. Like i said i owned 5 of them but will never own another unless i get a LT4 97 SS and i wouldnt get rid of my LSx cars for one.
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08-22-2009, 07:23 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by transmaro93
from someone who works on all makes and models of cars everyday... nothing is hard to work on once you figure out how they come apart... if you get frustrated that easy then thank god you aren't a mechanic.... might I ask what it was that set you off enough to take it to the dealer??
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How was i frustrated easy when i never told the story?? The car was apart in my driveway for more than a week. I purchased a brand new opti and supporting parts. Installed it and car wouldn't crank over. After removing and checking things several times i gave up.Turns out I did everything right but got a defective opti from Gmpartsdirect. Also it doesn't matter how things come apart. The design of the LT1 block access to and make it harder to do certain things like running the plug wires etc. Now for those that have the Opti replacement that makes things alot easier
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08-22-2009, 07:52 PM
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11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
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Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise
Your car is full weight? LS1s came stock with slicks and skinnies?
Geez, guess GM caught on to the 5.0 craze... does your car have flowmasters?
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the 50 lbs extra from the 9in more than makes up for the tires and swaybar.
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08-22-2009, 08:00 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: manchester, NJ
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yea i actually had that happen to me on my old 93 t/a... opti went and the replacement was defective... this was before i did my own work and the mechanic i used even tried to put a new computer in it... and when that didnt work he got another opti and sure enough... i didnt have to pay for the computer though... so your not the only one... i can see how that can be frustrating... but its not the lt1's fault... it was crappy parts fault... i agree the way they run the wires is a pain... but in 93 thats all they had... im going to be running ltcc so i wont have to worry about that... tune ups will be a walk in the park... but iv done plug wires and plugs on my current car twice... and its time consuming but not hard... o and vinnie... its not our fault you kept breaking rears!!!!!!1
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08-22-2009, 08:19 PM
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you can test your opti to see if its defective. who likes things easy? takes a real man to work on an lt1/sbc 
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08-22-2009, 08:48 PM
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Try changing plug wires on an LT1 with a Powerdyne supercharger!  No way to get leverage on the wires at the Opti so it took quite a while to pull them off 1 by 1. Anything done right takes time so it really doesn't make a difference what the engine is. And yes 
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08-22-2009, 09:03 PM
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Stop it!!!!!! That horse is already dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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08-23-2009, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by NJNETSFAN
*knock*knock* arrogant LS1 owner chiming in*
My car has 4ci less than urs, is stock internal, full weight, oh and 187K miles, and oh wait... has run plenty of 12.4's |
my old 96 had full bolt ons with the stock tq converter and went 12.51, that means with a 3200 in it i wouldve been faster then you. get off your high horse
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08-23-2009, 07:54 AM
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ECO-TEC FTW... now what ? huh? huh? thats right...
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08-23-2009, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SmokingSS
ECO-TEC FTW... now what ? huh? huh? thats right...
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i had to replace a rack in one, freakin thing is manual! so sick i wanted to keep the core but the rack wasn't even close for an f bod
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08-23-2009, 10:08 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Mays Landing area NJ
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Originally Posted by JL8Jeff
Try changing plug wires on an LT1 with a Powerdyne supercharger! No way to get leverage on the wires at the Opti so it took quite a while to pull them off 1 by 1 |
OMG I wouldnt want to imagine that 
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08-23-2009, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by maroman88
third gens FTW in this category! easy to work on and u can see the whole engine  |
v6s FTW here
who else doesnt have to lift the car to get the oil filter off? eh?
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Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.
Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
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08-23-2009, 01:54 PM
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v6 owners unite!!!!!!!!!!!
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08-23-2009, 04:28 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
xplain, i mean no offense but you didn't even put on a tranny cooler. that is pretty hard to screw up, though i have seen it happen....on an ls1  |
I live in an apt. w/ absolutely no room to do anything along w/ a limited amount of tools...wanna race?
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08-23-2009, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah
v6s FTW here
who else doesnt have to lift the car to get the oil filter off? eh?
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I can remove the oil filter on both Jeeps and the Camaro with all 4 wheels on the ground without an issue. 
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08-23-2009, 04:30 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz
I live in an apt. w/ absolutely no room to do anything along w/ a limited amount of tools...wanna race?
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That an open invitation?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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08-23-2009, 04:35 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Browns Mills NJ/ Rotondo West FL
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Originally Posted by ShowSomePromise
That an open invitation?
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It was a joke and you should be the last person calling people out w/ a heads cam LT1 barely breaking outta the 13's.
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420 HP/367 TQ on a Unlocked Converter & still climbing.
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08-23-2009, 04:35 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz
It was a joke and you should be the last person calling people out w/ a heads cam LT1 barely breaking outta the 13's.
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So race me?
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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08-23-2009, 04:40 PM
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Meet Coordinator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz
I live in an apt. w/ absolutely no room to do anything along w/ a limited amount of tools...wanna race?
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yes
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08-23-2009, 04:41 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Browns Mills NJ/ Rotondo West FL
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Lol....ok.
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08-23-2009, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz
Lol....ok.
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when and where and what for?
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