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10-02-2009, 10:04 PM
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Safety First.
Sad story, totally preventable. **** happens, never go under a car on a jack. Just a reminder. Jack stands are a must, car needs to pass the shake test.
http://www.trentonian.com/articles/2...d911769627.txt
MIDDLETOWN TWP., Pa. — A 27-year-old mechanic and father of three died yesterday when his Jeep Grand Cherokee slid off its jack and crushed his throat.
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10-02-2009, 10:05 PM
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Damn... that blows...
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10-02-2009, 10:34 PM
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damn that's really sad.... but it says hes a mechanic.. professionally??? what kind of professional mechanic doesn't use jack stands???
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10-02-2009, 10:59 PM
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sad story but i would think he would/should have know better!
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10-02-2009, 11:09 PM
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After having that almost happen to me, I will never go under a car again without stands.
Sad story.
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10-02-2009, 11:13 PM
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yea my jackstands were stolen so i stick some steelies from my old accord under there...
I will never go under without something
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10-02-2009, 11:22 PM
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terrible to hear this. I always put something under the car and give it the push test to make sure it doesn't budge. Even after that I periodically do this again to make sure nothing shifted while I was working on the car.
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10-03-2009, 06:12 AM
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Darwinism.
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10-03-2009, 08:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transmaro93
what kind of professional mechanic doesn't use jack stands???
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A lot of them... if its something quick, "oh, it won't happen to me" or they don't feel like taking the time to put the stands under.
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10-03-2009, 09:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transmaro93
damn that's really sad.... but it says hes a mechanic.. professionally??? what kind of professional mechanic doesn't use jack stands???
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Last edited by sweetbmxrider; 10-03-2009 at 09:21 AM.
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10-03-2009, 10:48 AM
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well iv done it when changine tires and stuff like that... but i would never crawl under a car without them... i have evne a second set under my bird right now just to catch it if it does fall...
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10-03-2009, 10:53 AM
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Familiarity breeds neglect.
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10-03-2009, 11:15 AM
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Yeap...you have done it so many times before, nothing has ever happend, so why now?
I dont even trust my jackstands some times. Not that they have ever failed, but I hate being under a car for any longer then 5-10 mins.
Im glad my father got me that oil syphon kit last year for christmas. Now with the Mailbu, I never have to get under the car to change the oil. w00t w00t Ecotec!
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10-03-2009, 11:16 AM
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Then buy better jackstands. I have no fear under my car once it is properly supported. I shake the car before I go under just to make sure it is secure.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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10-03-2009, 11:17 AM
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i saw the article, it said the car fell on his neck? im curious on what happened. The car seems to still have all 4 wheels on it, so did he have his head under the tire or something like that?
its a real tragedy.
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10-03-2009, 11:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
Yeap...you have done it so many times before, nothing has ever happend, so why now?
I dont even trust my jackstands some times. Not that they have ever failed, but I hate being under a car for any longer then 5-10 mins.
Im glad my father got me that oil syphon kit last year for christmas. Now with the Mailbu, I never have to get under the car to change the oil. w00t w00t Ecotec!
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10-03-2009, 11:55 AM
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Im just like that because of the one time it might fail...
Hell, the 87 was on jackstands for 4 years. Didnt budge.
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10-03-2009, 11:58 AM
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So buy jackstands that are rated well above what you plan on supporting... stick some bricks in there too, success.
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10-03-2009, 12:12 PM
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...I guess its all going over your head
I have 3 sets of 3 ton jack stands. I dont care what they are rated at, there is still that ONE chance that something will happen.
that bothers me.
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10-03-2009, 12:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\
i saw the article, it said the car fell on his neck? im curious on what happened. The car seems to still have all 4 wheels on it, so did he have his head under the tire or something like that?
its a real tragedy.
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Probably jacked it up to get him out from underneath.
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10-03-2009, 02:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transmaro93
damn that's really sad.... but it says hes a mechanic.. professionally??? what kind of professional mechanic doesn't use jack stands???
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“His driveway has somewhat of an incline to it; I think he used the incline of his driveway to get underneath his vehicle,” Cleary said.
“He had a jack, and he took the tire off but didn’t put any blocks or any kind of wedges behind the tires or anything, and the thing fell off the jack.”
Cleary was incredulous.
“He was a mechanic — that’s what I don’t understand. You’d think he would have been a little safer or would have had a place to take it (for proper repairs). It’s a shame, because I’ve been told he’s a stepfather to some of these kids that live over there. And now? Nothing.”
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damn, that's a tragedy. accidents happen more often when we take "short cuts" and don't do things safely. i'm willing to bet he had jackstands somewhere in the boxes - it says they were just moving in.
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Last edited by jims69camaro; 10-03-2009 at 02:25 PM.
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10-03-2009, 02:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
...I guess its all going over your head
I have 3 sets of 3 ton jack stands. I dont care what they are rated at, there is still that ONE chance that something will happen.
that bothers me.
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You scared by lightening too? How about falling space debris? 
I've seen lifts drop, there is risk everywhere. It's a matter of risk mitigation. Going under a car supported by a jack is high risk, going under one well supported by quality jack stands and has passed a serious shake test is much lower risk. I feel safer under my car when it is properly supported than I do driving on some roads.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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10-03-2009, 02:36 PM
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that's a little over the top. even for you.
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10-03-2009, 02:58 PM
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Oh ****!!........ posters of hockey girls in Flyers stuff, do want. 
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10-03-2009, 03:10 PM
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sad ive done quick things without using them. I try not to i usualy put jack stands under and lower the car on them so there are 3 things the wight of the car sits on
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