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07-21-2010, 12:09 PM
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uhh Confusion?
I am a little unsure if i am reading this correctly but the 89 TTA with a 3.8L V6 was the fastest third gen produced or was it the GTA? could some one be so nice to clarify/explain it?
The fastest 3rd generation Trans Am was the 1989 20th Anniversary Turbo Trans Am. It was selected to pace the 1989 Indianapolis 500, and Pontiac marketed a pace car replica, designating all 20th Anniversary cars as such.
1989 20th Anniversary Turbo Trans Am T-Top(TTA)
The 20th Anniversary Turbo Trans Am Indianapolis 500 pace car replica, (TTA for short), was based on the GTA, but had a high pressure turbocharged and intercooled Buick 3.8L V6, originally developed for the Buick Regal Grand National. 1,555 TTA's were produced, including 39 hardtops and 3 convertibles. The TTA was the quickest Trans Am to date. With a 0-60 time of 4.6 seconds, and a quarter mile time of 13.4 seconds, it was "the quickest 0-60 sprinter available in any US production-car showroom – at any price."[7] The top speed reported by Motor Trend Magazine was 162 mph. It had the highest top speed of any American car available at any price, and the highest top speed of any Trans Am ever built.[8] With better acceleration than the Ferrari Testarossa and Lamborghini Countach, they were considered to be a performance bargain. They were however, the most expensive Trans Ams ever made. Including the option package discount, the MSRP was about $32,000 for a T-top model with leather seats. A buyer could buy three standard Firebirds or one Corvette for the cost of a Turbo Trans Am. The convertible Turbo Trans Am, of which only three were made, cost as much as $38,823.[9]
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07-21-2010, 12:12 PM
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lulz fast third gens...
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07-21-2010, 12:39 PM
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v6 was the fastest
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07-21-2010, 01:53 PM
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TTA was the fastest
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07-21-2010, 01:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 12secondv6
v6 was the fastest
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deadtrend1
TTA was the fastest
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07-21-2010, 02:19 PM
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the firehawks will give them a run for their money....especially the custom order green 383 
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07-21-2010, 02:26 PM
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Technically, the 91-92 Firehawk was the fastest but was a limited production.
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07-21-2010, 02:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Featherburner
Technically, the 91-92 Firehawk was the fastest but was a limited production.
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wasn't 92 the first year?
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07-21-2010, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by deadtrend1
wasn't 92 the first year?
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Pretty sure some were 91.
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07-21-2010, 03:05 PM
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yeah the firehawks started in 91 but were order only. i think they only made like 25 firehawks in 91 and like 200 in 92?
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07-21-2010, 03:23 PM
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Quote:
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Technically, the 91-92 Firehawk was the fastest but was a limited production.
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as if TTAs were not limited production?
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07-21-2010, 03:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
yeah the firehawks started in 91 but were order only. i think they only made like 25 firehawks in 91 and like 200 in 92?
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no, there are 25 thirdgen firehawks. 27 ordered, 2 cancelled. 24 were Formula's, 1 was a Trans AM since it was a convertable.
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07-21-2010, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
as if TTAs were not limited production?
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True, but we're talking 1500 or so, compared to 25. Big difference.
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07-21-2010, 04:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
yeah the firehawks started in 91 but were order only. i think they only made like 25 firehawks in 91 and like 200 in 92?
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25 between 91 and 92. 201 in 93.
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07-21-2010, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
the firehawks will give them a run for their money....especially the custom order green 383 |
But the TTA still wins due to ridiculous potential. 
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07-21-2010, 05:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frosty
But the TTA still wins due to ridiculous potential. |
So the fastest third gen... was a V6? 
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07-21-2010, 05:08 PM
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Yes, 25 total 3rd gen 'hawks, and I might be wrong but I believe they were all actually '92s. IIRC, program started in '91, but they only ended up building a couple of test cars that were crushed.
And yes, I think a '92 'hawk would give the TTAs a real good run for their money. They were rated 350hp / 390tq IIRC, and all had the ZF 6 speed.
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07-21-2010, 05:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
Yes, 25 total 3rd gen 'hawks, and I might be wrong but I believe they were all actually '92s. IIRC, program started in '91, but they only ended up building a couple of test cars that were crushed.
And yes, I think a '92 'hawk would give the TTAs a real good run for their money. They were rated 350hp / 390tq IIRC, and all had the ZF 6 speed.
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07-21-2010, 05:13 PM
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Yea, definitely. They claim the T-ram alone will boost L98 output by 45hp with no other changes.
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07-21-2010, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LTs1ow
So the fastest third gen... was a V6? |
...and ironically a ton faster than a LT1 
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07-21-2010, 05:35 PM
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it was fast because it was turbo... a refined grand national motor basically.
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07-21-2010, 05:50 PM
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Quote:
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...and ironically a ton faster than a LT1 |
ziiiiiiiiiiiiiing 
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07-21-2010, 05:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frosty
...and ironically a ton faster than a LT1 |
Actually, on par with a 93 Firehawk but you're right faster than the rest of them. 
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07-21-2010, 06:17 PM
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TTA was one of the fastest Fbodies, ever, not counting COPO cars. TTA's vs an LS1 car would be the closest match.
So...it took GM 10 years to develop a fbody to match the power...of a V6 third gen. BTW, the Firebird was the heavier of the two Fbodies.
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07-21-2010, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
TTA was one of the fastest Fbodies, ever, not counting COPO cars. TTA's vs an LS1 car would be the closest match.
So...it took GM 10 years to develop a fbody to match the power...of a V6 third gen. BTW, the Firebird was the heavier of the two Fbodies.
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I see 1/4 times for the TTA of 13.5 so some LS cars are faster by a lot.
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