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07-17-2012, 06:53 PM
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Lost my only set of keys :(
What do I need to do. Call a locksmith or go to GM?
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420 HP/367 TQ on a Unlocked Converter & still climbing.
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07-17-2012, 07:24 PM
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Locksmith is fine.
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07-17-2012, 07:29 PM
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Call a locksmith, I used CLC in Cinnaminson when mine got stolen.
Lose door and ignition? Do you still have VATS? If so, they will need to go though and find the resistance value with a machine. I think its one of 26 options.
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07-17-2012, 07:29 PM
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GM. Give them the vin number and get proof of ownership and they might be able to make keys.
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07-17-2012, 07:46 PM
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The key was chipped will I run into any problems w/ that?
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420 HP/367 TQ on a Unlocked Converter & still climbing.
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07-17-2012, 07:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz
The key was chipped will I run into any problems w/ that?
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A locksmith can program that.
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1999 Z28 Convertible. 6 speed swap, wide cowl hood, full hockey stripes, and a whining 10 bolt.
2008 Sierra Vortec Max. 6.2 swapped, headers, Magnaflow catback, GMPP CAI, NHT optioned tow package.
2006 GTO, 11.48 @ 118.3
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07-17-2012, 07:57 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Thanks for all the help guys.
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420 HP/367 TQ on a Unlocked Converter & still climbing.
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07-17-2012, 08:33 PM
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Dealer cut keys by the vin for my old 93 z28 no problem
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07-17-2012, 09:32 PM
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Dealer would prob be cheaper than a locksmith. You should just bypass the vats too or tune it out. It probably is tuned out with your swap.
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07-17-2012, 10:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
Dealer would prob be cheaper than a locksmith. You should just bypass the vats too or tune it out. It probably is tuned out with your swap.
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You can tune out the pellet but you will still have some VATS functionality.
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07-17-2012, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
You can tune out the pellet but you will still have some VATS functionality.
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^this, i tuned it out since the key was dying, and the security light still flashes on start-up and stuff. i would say dealer, locksmiths like to kinda back you into a corner sometimes
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07-17-2012, 10:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WildBillyT
You can tune out the pellet but you will still have some VATS functionality.
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Originally Posted by townsend
^this, i tuned it out since the key was dying, and the security light still flashes on start-up and stuff. i would say dealer, locksmiths like to kinda back you into a corner sometimes
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Its an ls1 swap and a 95 car IIRC. 96+ used the bcm for the other part of the vats system you guys are talking about. The earlier cars used the pcm which you can tune out.
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07-17-2012, 10:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
Its an ls1 swap and a 95 car IIRC. 96+ used the bcm for the other part of the vats system you guys are talking about. The earlier cars used the pcm which you can tune out.
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Don't want to get too far off-topic, but isn't the 1995 TDR independent of the PCM, which is why it can't be tuned out? I dunno. I thought so.
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07-17-2012, 10:41 PM
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The theft deterrent module looks for the key resistor to then ground the theft deterrent relay for starter operation. The pcm does the enabling of the injectors via a signal from the tdm but this can be tuned out. Pcm4less did it on mine and I grounded my relay for starter operation. The TDM is part of the bcm in the 96-97 cars.
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07-17-2012, 11:05 PM
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i learn something new from you guys everyday
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07-18-2012, 06:25 AM
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Well I found them in the fridge at work in a bag lol, time to go make 100 copies
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07-18-2012, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz
Well I found them in the fridge at work in a bag lol, time to go make 100 copies
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Nice lol. Now that you have two cars at work lol
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07-18-2012, 08:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
The theft deterrent module looks for the key resistor to then ground the theft deterrent relay for starter operation. The pcm does the enabling of the injectors via a signal from the tdm but this can be tuned out. Pcm4less did it on mine and I grounded my relay for starter operation. The TDM is part of the bcm in the 96-97 cars.
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I guess I'm just being a picky bitch, but the VATS delete isn't done until you ground the relay as well. Nothing to do with the key though.
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07-18-2012, 10:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WildBillyT
I guess I'm just being a picky bitch, but the VATS delete isn't done until you ground the relay as well. Nothing to do with the key though.
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Yeah if you want to eliminate the tdm completely, you'd have to ground the relay.
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07-18-2012, 09:42 PM
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Dads a locksmith on the side. If you still need it just let me know
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08-01-2012, 08:36 PM
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Locksmith is wayyyy expensive. When I lost my keys I called every locksmith within my area and all of them said minimum $60-70. I went to the dealership with proof of ownership and they cut me an ignition key and passenger key (GM keys that look identical) $26 for the pair.
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