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thanks scott!
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07-23-2008, 10:54 PM
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500 more pounds is why its slower.
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a 4th gen weighs 32XX lbs?!?!?!?!
the car GMHTP tested was a fully optioned SS. it probably tipped the scales near 36XX lbs.
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07-23-2008, 10:57 PM
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So wait? my third gen could take a 5th gen???? WTF!!!!!
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07-24-2008, 06:03 AM
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a 4th gen weighs 32XX lbs?!?!?!?!
the car GMHTP tested was a fully optioned SS. it probably tipped the scales near 36XX lbs.
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SS is 3913, 4th gen was 3411 I think someone posted.
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07-24-2008, 09:06 AM
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when I weighed my Z last weekend only w/o the spare and 1/4 tank, it was 3300 lbs
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07-24-2008, 09:14 AM
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eh, ill also wait for more tests, and the z28...
off topic... anyone remember a project car from GMHTP back in 98, it was a silver 96 formy.... 383lt1 w/spray and kennybrown rollbar and subframes...
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07-24-2008, 11:45 AM
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So wait? my third gen could take a 5th gen???? WTF!!!!!
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a v6 5th gen.......
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07-24-2008, 11:51 AM
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So far, every 6spd auto car seems to do faster then the manual trans model.
CTS-V set the full sized peformance sedan record with an auto, not manual.
Funny that the 22hp, AFM equiped automatic ran a whole extra 3sec.
I think that thoes numbers are a bit conservative.
G8 GT's weight a little bit more are pulling out the same times with 60hp less.
My bet, Camaro SS is a solid 12 sec car, V6 is a solid high 13 sec car, at worst low 14 sec car.
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Last edited by BigAls87Z28; 07-24-2008 at 11:51 AM.
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07-24-2008, 12:11 PM
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So far, every 6spd auto car seems to do faster then the manual trans model.
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I wonder what the shift time on the auto is. Must be pretty quick
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07-24-2008, 12:13 PM
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Yeah, the new 6spd autos use a different system then past autos, kind of halway between a DSG and a traditonal auto.
Plus the 32bit computer that controls the trans is pretty fast.
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07-24-2008, 12:25 PM
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I still can't believe the car weighs 3900 lbs! There's no reason for a "sports car" to weigh that much. I guess the production headlights weigh a lot more than they thought they would. Does it come with a full keg of beer in the back!
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07-24-2008, 01:10 PM
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when I weighed my Z last weekend only w/o the spare and 1/4 tank, it was 3300 lbs
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Where did you get your car weighed?
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07-24-2008, 02:51 PM
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my grand prix weighed in at 3380 with me in it
camaro = fatty
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07-24-2008, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
Yeah, the new 6spd autos use a different system then past autos, kind of halway between a DSG and a traditonal auto.
Plus the 32bit computer that controls the trans is pretty fast.
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I wonder if those runs were using the "launch control" that was talked about briefly.....
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07-24-2008, 06:54 PM
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a v6 5th gen.......
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don't assume I post all my slips the buddy the 14.4 was before the cam, carb tune up, and some other things I'm not at liberty to discus.
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07-24-2008, 07:52 PM
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don't assume I post all my slips the buddy the 14.4 was before the cam, carb tune up, and some other things I'm not at liberty to discus.
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07-24-2008, 08:04 PM
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is your pos a matter of national security or somthing?
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It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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07-24-2008, 08:32 PM
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no i'd just like to snake a few people 1st
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07-24-2008, 08:46 PM
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07-24-2008, 09:51 PM
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don't assume I post all my slips the buddy the 14.4 was before the cam, carb tune up, and some other things I'm not at liberty to discus.
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So you'll run a 14.1 now, sweet. 
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07-25-2008, 12:14 AM
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i heard a rumor that the z28 was going to be better than the ss model.....better engine options and such.
is this true or can anyone confirm it? i always thought ss was top of the line fully loaded
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07-25-2008, 12:22 AM
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Ugh...
Z28 always has been and will continue to be King. Z28 vs SS debates have raged on every site that pays homage to the Camaro.
The way I see it, Z28 was the Trans Am racer, SS was the pretty trim performance street cruiser.
Z28's "290" hp 302 could out run just about every SS save the L78 375hp 396 SS cars
Come 1970, the Trans Am rules allow larger displacement engines, in came the 350 LT-1 making 360hp for Z28 ONLY. Big Blocks were on the way out, 402's were dusted quickly by the true performance Camaro's, the Z28.
Z28 then became the only performance trim, entering IROC racing inthe late 70's to the late 90's.
Only untill SLP came buy and slapped on a hood, intake, wheels and exhaust did the SS emerge above Z28.
5th gen will settle this, and the Z28 will arrive with more power, but also much more money then the SS.
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07-25-2008, 12:37 AM
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ohh, got it
thanks for clearing that up
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07-25-2008, 12:45 AM
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Where did you get your car weighed?
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i just so happen to have a scale..
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07-25-2008, 09:23 AM
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ill own an iroc, ss and a z28.... good combo
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