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12-20-2006, 04:50 PM
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Hippy Mod, Bergermeister Meisterberger, Moderator
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So do all LS1 cars have this slow throttle response?
This drive by wire throttle lag sucks. Now I think I know why people say the LT1 feels stronger down low, because it responds quicker! But my 2000 SS will break the tires loose a lot easier than my 96 SS did. So is there a cure for this lag other than mashing the pedal to the floor faster? 
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12-20-2006, 04:56 PM
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It's all in the tuning....
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12-20-2006, 04:59 PM
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a kid i met at school tuned his to eliminate it! but i dont know the program he used!
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12-20-2006, 05:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
It's all in the tuning....
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Get the FOFF signal out!
I didn't realize Camaros got TBW.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
Last edited by BonzoHansen; 12-20-2006 at 05:08 PM.
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12-20-2006, 05:16 PM
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LS1 fbodies arent drive by wire.
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12-20-2006, 05:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokingSS
LS1 fbodies arent drive by wire.
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No? I thought they were in 99+....
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12-20-2006, 05:22 PM
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well they have throttle lag for some reason and there is a way to get rid of it why wouldnt they be drive by wire Little G,s car is
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12-20-2006, 05:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselKickYoAss4Sure
well they have throttle lag for some reason and there is a way to get rid of it why wouldnt they be drive by wire Little G,s car is
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I just thought all the f-bodies were cables. I learned something.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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12-20-2006, 05:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselKickYoAss4Sure
well they have throttle lag for some reason and there is a way to get rid of it why wouldnt they be drive by wire Little G,s car is
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His is a 3.8 though Phil, there were lots of differences between the cars.
- Justin
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12-20-2006, 05:24 PM
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nope, only the vettes from 97-02 were drive by wire. the GTOs may be by wire too, im not sure. LS2s are. but i do know camaros and bird LS1s were all cable driven. Vehicles with traction control are a little odd, The ASR option connects the gas pedal to a "motor" which then goes to the throttle blade. when asr is activated, the "motor" turns back and closes the throttle, in turn actually pushing the gas pedal back up.
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12-20-2006, 05:25 PM
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99+ 3.8s were drive by wire
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12-20-2006, 05:25 PM
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i guess so, but you would think that they would use the same technology!
i dunno i may be wrong
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12-20-2006, 05:26 PM
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Quote:
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99+ 3.8s were drive by wire
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...but not all 99s were. That was a changeover year.
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12-20-2006, 05:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
...but not all 99s were. That was a changeover year.
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if you say so.. lol i dont bother with the v6 info hehe
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12-20-2006, 05:27 PM
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either way tuning could only help the problem!
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12-20-2006, 05:27 PM
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Quote:
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nope, only the vettes from 97-02 were drive by wire. the GTOs may be by wire too, im not sure. LS2s are. but i do know camaros and bird LS1s were all cable driven.
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OK, that is what I thought.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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12-20-2006, 05:27 PM
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Quote:
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if you say so.. lol i dont bother with the v6 info hehe
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I thought they all were too, until one of our members (can't remember who off the top of my head) bought a throttle body after confirming that it was a 99 like his car, and one was cable, and one wire.
- Justin
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12-20-2006, 05:29 PM
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yes, tuning should take care of it easily. I havent driven my SS in almost a year and a half so i cant remember what the throttle response was like. I'll be using HP tuners so if i notice any lag on mine, ill look into dealing with it.
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12-20-2006, 05:34 PM
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may be some torque management and other fun stuff put in the a4 cars.......talk to foff
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12-20-2006, 05:35 PM
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top off the blinker fluid
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12-20-2006, 06:10 PM
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as far as I know, none of the LS1 F bodies were TBW. all were cable operated.
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12-20-2006, 06:22 PM
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maybe its somehow connected to piston slap??
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12-20-2006, 06:28 PM
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Quote:
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as far as I know, none of the LS1 F bodies were TBW. all were cable operated.
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12-20-2006, 06:28 PM
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Hippy Mod, Bergermeister Meisterberger, Moderator
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PSBW? Yeah, it's a cable(which is actually wire) and the car has traction control. It's a sloppy cable for sure.
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12-20-2006, 07:54 PM
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Tighten up the cable, get a tune and/or modify the T/B to put in a n idle adjusting screw. If you just bump the blade open a little bit it makes a big difference. Mine was always pretty instantaneous, do you have an A4? Could be torque managment or TCS
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