Lifting PRs!

[LTb1ow]

The super pump? yea when I first started on it, it was pretty awesome, got me focused and ready to go. Now its like eh.

I was looking into something else. Black powder? Dark matter? Etc...

[madness410]

The super pump? yea when I first started on it, it was pretty awesome, got me focused and ready to go. Now its like eh.

I was looking into something else. Black powder? Dark matter? Etc...

yeah pete was taking black powder he says it works good. n.o xplode works for a lot of people. do u know if u have the newer or older formula for superpump? the old one had all different hormone additives or something like that, made people go crazy, they took it out and a lot of people stopped using it because it didnt make them feel anything lol

[LTb1ow]

LOL well the one I just finished was relativly new.

I can't stand NOxplod. I will look at what vitamin shoppe has on Tuesday.

[madness410]

LOL well the one I just finished was relativly new.

I can't stand NOxplod. I will look at what vitamin shoppe has on Tuesday.

arrite. also check out dpsnutrition.com thats where i get most of my stuff. it almost usually beats out competitors pricing

[LTb1ow]

I get some percent back at the Shoppe and its on the way to school. Sooo eh. LOL

[madness410]

true. look into it though for real, ive seen savings of like 15-20 bucks on products, and shipping is 4.95 no matter what u get

[LTb1ow]

I will, and I am good to cycle different brands of nitric oxide?

[madness410]

hmm id say stay off it for a bit, just because when u start back up ull get the feeling of it back 100%

[LTb1ow]

Ahh fuuck. I doubt I can lift without it. Ugh.

[madness410]

haha i said that myself too man, its rough the first few work outs but ull get used to it. once u start taking n.o. again it would be worth it

[LTb1ow]

Could always get a new supp, try it, if it works well use it, if not, store it until I can take it.

[FIcamaroRE92]

look into black powder, by MRI its 2x better than SP250

[HeadlessNorseman]

I get some percent back at the Shoppe and its on the way to school. Sooo eh. LOL

You take 36 to school? go the back way! i can make it there in 12-15 mins from my house on a good day. Back on topic, I used to max like 245 in high school when i was working out everyday. I never took anything but im sure i was lacking in my diet lol. But other than that, you should read about nutrient timing. Ill let you borrow the book if you want. Very interesting read. I have a ton of good books about nutrition and workouts.

[LTb1ow]

Well I mean like I can take 36 and its on the way. Depending on whether its a day/night class the parkway is sometimes better. Anyways.

I am going to look at the black powder tmmr. How much is it?

[FIcamaroRE92]

depends on where you go, usually 40-50$$$$ for 800g

[LTb1ow]

I guess thats not bad, same price as SP.

[FIcamaroRE92]

ya there all around the same amount

[LTb1ow]

Well I will see tmmr.

[madness410]

I guess thats not bad, same price as SP.

dps sells superpump for 25 bucks i think.

[LTb1ow]

I will check em out, but I wanna lift with NO tmmr.... ;)

[HeadlessNorseman]

anyone want to join retro fitness and spot for me :nod: Its like 50 down and 20 bucks a month. And its brand new!

[fire95bird]

Any one here go to golds in totowa? Ive been going by myself for a few months after my friend quit, ShowNoMercy how'd you like the long term effects of Super Pump? i took it a few times and thought it was alright, just alil too expensive, but if its worth it ill look back into it

[madness410]

i built up a tolerance to superpump in a week and a half. n.o xplode the effects slowly wore off but i also took that for 12 weeks stright..

[fire95bird]

I've always just had protein shakes, but haven't been taking it lately. But yea going back to the taking time off from lifting thing, when i had to take a month off from lifting it sucked, lost so much off of everything but i'm about back to were i used to be except bench cause i have no spotter

[WildBillyT]

I've always just had protein shakes, but haven't been taking it lately. But yea going back to the taking time off from lifting thing, when i had to take a month off from lifting it sucked, lost so much off of everything but i'm about back to were i used to be except bench cause i have no spotter

I took 3 months off. Lost 25-27 pounds and I feel like a total bitch. I'm just getting back into it now so I'm hoping it comes back fast.

[LTb1ow]

Any one here go to golds in totowa? Ive been going by myself for a few months after my friend quit, ShowNoMercy how'd you like the long term effects of Super Pump? i took it a few times and thought it was alright, just alil too expensive, but if its worth it ill look back into it

Long term effects... um it made me get up off my lazy ass and lift whenever I took it. Granted towards the end I would bet it was more of a mental thing but for what its worth, I liked it. I just enjoy lifting so it helped me get focused and what not. As for building muscle, I can't tell personally, I mean lift more but whether I look like I can IDK. Again, not really why I lift.

[fire95bird]

Yea ive always been the kinda person who lifts for himself not to look good for other people, good for stress and what not

[LTb1ow]

Yup, same here, and it that aspect, SP250 helped me a lot.

[LTb1ow]

Ok, another question for the guys that lift.

When you bench, is it bad to hold it up top for a few seconds?

I try to make sure I have good form so I steady myself every rep. My dad was making fun of me for doing it, I guess its like resting?

[madness410]

nah..the bad is at the bottom, if u let it hit your chest u lose tension and the lactic acid build up in the rep is lost.

i recently got into speed benching and saw my strength go up, go up and down as fast as u can for sets of 6 or 7, not going to failure. it might not be as much as u can bench but its more for functional strength

[LTb1ow]

Yea, I don't max out or anything so I may try that. Again, kinda dangerous with no spotter though....


But as long as I am good to rest-ish up top, then cool.

[JerzLT1]

nah..the bad is at the bottom, if u let it hit your chest u lose tension and the lactic acid build up in the rep is lost.

i recently got into speed benching and saw my strength go up, go up and down as fast as u can for sets of 6 or 7, not going to failure. it might not be as much as u can bench but its more for functional strength

the correct way to do it is come down slow and without letting it hit your chest or bounce push it back up fast. your building more burst strength that way. stopping at the top to adjust is no biggie though just not too long

[LTb1ow]

Ok, I try not to bounce at all, so good there.

[JerzLT1]

i take a hand towel, roll or fold it and put it on my chest so i know when to stop coming down without hitting

[LTb1ow]

Thats a good idea, thanks for the tip!

And woot, just finished my benching, 230 :)

[Tsar]

Seems like I'm getting weaker... :-? maybe i should eat more :lol:

[JerzLT1]

Thats a good idea, thanks for the tip!

And woot, just finished my benching, 230 :)

your benching the same as me, how much do you weigh?

[LTb1ow]

Around 197-200.

[DevilDougWS6]

back to the gym last night. did 3 sets of 165lb bench with 9 reps. im getting back up there.

[LTb1ow]

Nice Doug.

Cept you just need to run right. ;)

[JerzLT1]

Around 197-200.

160lbs here :) im very lean and when i went to iraq there wasnt much to do but work out in your off time, once your 12 hour shift was up you worked out or went to sleep

[LTb1ow]

Yea, Im kinda bulky I suppose, back when I was in my other school I was around 170 ish. Lots of running though.

[JerzLT1]

i try to run atleast a mile and a half a day, its not as far as it sounds

[LTb1ow]

Eh, I used to be a big runner, and then school with running to classes, squaring corners etc kinda killed it.

I need to start swimming again. That and get some moar nitric oxide.

[WildBillyT]

the correct way to do it is come down slow and without letting it hit your chest or bounce push it back up fast. your building more burst strength that way. stopping at the top to adjust is no biggie though just not too long

This is the right answer. If you really want to build your bench, work out with chains for progressive resistance.

[DevilDougWS6]

what you mean i need to start running right?

[FIcamaroRE92]

what you mean i need to start running right?

whats yur weight

[Jersyboyy]

Just started working out again myself.
When I was 15-18 I worked out HARD and played alot of sports. I maxed out around 265 squated a retarted amount leg pressed 8 45 plates on each side of the machine ran a mile in 536 and curled 35s

Now after 4 weeks of on and off working out im at bench-210 curls 50 (10 times each arm i dont know how I do that either) (new gym leg press is machine weight not free so it maxes at 400 and i max it out doing 20 reps) havnt started squating again yet tho run a mile in 620

[DevilDougWS6]

whats yur weight

around 175...5 foot 8.....i wouldnt say that im fat though

[LTb1ow]

I am so sick of lifting with no superpump, it sucks. Arg.

[Tsar]

I am so sick of lifting with no superpump, it sucks. Arg.
Go buy some?

[LTb1ow]

Not employed and finals this week and next, so its not a priority.

[madness410]

Just started working out again myself.
When I was 15-18 I worked out HARD and played alot of sports. I maxed out around 265 squated a retarted amount leg pressed 8 45 plates on each side of the machine ran a mile in 536 and curled 35s

Now after 4 weeks of on and off working out im at bench-210 curls 50 (10 times each arm i dont know how I do that either) (new gym leg press is machine weight not free so it maxes at 400 and i max it out doing 20 reps) havnt started squating again yet tho run a mile in 620

yo if you are doing cardio you should look into sprinting, or any anaerobic excersize. long distance running will make u lose muscle mass.

i weighed myself yesterday and in span of two weeks and adding 20 carbs to each meal i jumped from 204 to 211.

[Tsar]

Not employed and finals this week and next, so its not a priority.
two weeks worth of finals? I don't like your school.

[madness410]

lol i had 2 finals last week and 3 tomorrow and the day after. i dont like my school either though.

matt try out something other than superpump

[LTb1ow]

I know, but I know it works and don't wanna get something that doesnt.

[WildBillyT]

lol i had 2 finals last week and 3 tomorrow and the day after. i dont like my school either though.

matt try out something other than superpump

Like hard work and sacrifice?

[LTb1ow]

Me?

I am actually surprised with myself, it was tough at first but its not so bad now lifting without any SP250.

[WildBillyT]

Me?

I am actually surprised with myself, it was tough at first but its not so bad now lifting without any SP250.

Yeah, that wasn't a shot at you, just a push to try and lift without supplements for a little while to let your body normalize. You want to build the muscle to keep it on, not to be just inflated when you are loaded up.

[LTb1ow]

Yea I hear ya. Its just harder to get myself to lift and what not. Also I am lifting the same weights/reps but feel much smaller in size... idk thats probably a mental issue though.

[WildBillyT]

Yeah, you deflated a bit. It does suck but when you go back to it after a month or two off you will crush your former plateaus. I had the same thing happen with the Met-Rx stuff I use.

[LTb1ow]

I have been going on about a month now with out drugssss

[Jam]

actually to be quite honest, either buy gloves from sports authority or what's even better is using lifting powder aka gun powder. you have amazing grip with it and its comfortable.

[Tsar]

I was finally able to bench 275 yesterday without any SP250 or other crap. I ran out of that in march. Funny thing, I ran out of Whey few days ago too. Seems like no supplements at all is working better for my body :lol:

[98tadriver]

i havent lifted since march, i need to get back into it. i feel like a slacker

[Jam]

actually matt if you want I can sell you my pair of bionic lifting gloves ($30) that I never used. for $15.

[Tsar]

Gloves? how did we arrive to this from SP250? and wtf is a bionic lifting love? :lol:

[LTb1ow]

Jam is a bit late, I had posted earlier about gloves...

[Tsar]

Jam is a bit late, I had posted earlier about gloves...
awwe you dont want you girly hands to get a little rough :lol:

[LTb1ow]

Pretty much... lol

[fire95bird]

I haven't used supplements in months and feel great when i lift, might start taking protein again though. Im up to 176 now and im only 5'10 :) hopefully ill get to my goal weight of 185 by the end of the summer

[LTb1ow]

I just struggle with lifting cause I my sleep schedules are wacky, gots tests and school stuff to do and lifting is just tough to focus 100% on.

But I enjoy it, helps relax me.

[madness410]

yeah i agree with matt sleep has a lot to do with it...when i first started getting into it i took an hour nap before the gym..felt like a new day and was so energized. when i lift at the gym with 6 or less hours of sleep or no nap it feels like im lifting turds

[LTb1ow]

Yea, I wanna get some more supps for the short summer break I have. Maybe get some solid nights of sleep in and not have to worry about classes. Hopefully get some new PRs.

[WildBillyT]

awwe you dont want you girly hands to get a little rough :lol:

I use gloves because my hands go before my legs and back during deadlifts :shrug:

[Tsar]

I use gloves because my hands go before my legs and back during deadlifts :shrug:

I was just busting his balls, I used to use gloves too. If I remember correctly, I stopped using them because it didn't feel "right". :shrug: It's a personal preference.

[fire95bird]

Wrist straps will help with that WildBilly

[WildBillyT]

Wrist straps will help with that WildBilly

Yeah, so do hooks. I want my grip to match the DL stuff though.

[DevilDougWS6]

i wear gloves to lift. i wear them to do pull ups as well. i ALWAYS get nasty calluses if i dont wear them

[fire95bird]

try farmers carries that helped me alot but there really rough on your hands. I have hands the size of most girls but i still manage deadlift 435

[LTb1ow]

Does drinking a monster before lifting count as a supp. ?

lol

[JerzLT1]

No but it does add to your junk food intake! That stuff is horrible for you

[LTb1ow]

LOL. Well I only have a four pack.... hehe

My body must hate me. Ah well, after finals, I will go back to a "cleaner" diet..

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

try farmers carries that helped me alot but there really rough on your hands. I have hands the size of most girls but i still manage deadlift 435

Wait...you're a guy? :mrgreen:

I used to get somewhat calloused, but not really anymore, my hands got used to it.

[fire95bird]

Nick shush slim lol

[fire95bird]

k I've got a question. I was at golds today doing straight leg deadlifts. I was setting up my weight, when this hugeee guy (prob 6'2 265) goes to the rack next to me and is gonna do some deadlifts. I was doing power today ( 5 sets of 5 reps, high weight). I start out at like 185 do it its easy, then like 235, then 285. I look over and the guy is only deadlifting like 285 and hes putting quite a bit of effort into it. My question is was he really that weak or is my deadlift that good? Im am by no means trying to brag about it, it was just on my mind today. Thanks alot guys

[madness410]

rule of thumb is if you deadlift your body weight u are average. 1.5 your body weight u are strong. 2x your body weight u are a beast.

did he look like a body builder? body builders do their reps slow and ensure perfect form to get the most out of the excersize

[fire95bird]

Are you sure cause that would mean im a god cause i could do 2.6 times my body weight lol. Was just your average meat head golds guido fist pumping hahaha but no ive seen body builders there and he was lean enough. Had some stretch to his skin but he was still a huge dude

[madness410]

i might have messed up the statistics but i read something like that in mens health.

also he might have just started deadlifting, i know when i first started deadlifting i couldnt set half my weight with good form

[fire95bird]

Ya maybe. If he just started deadlifting he was horribly unbalanced lol but who knows. Thanks for the insight

[WildBillyT]

He could just be starting, have bad form, be recovering from injury, who knows. As long as he wasn't touch-and-going with the plates then good for him.

[KirkEvil]

I ran track in high school and some of college doing sprints, event was the quarter mile. I had to quit track due to engineering getting to be too much, and havent actually done any kind of workout for a little over a year...haha

I have never gotten into lifting because I was focused on tough running workouts. I just started to lift on a regular basis for a week now. I actually lost 10lbs from not doing anything for the that time off, but put it back on to my normal weight of 160 and Im 6'2". My bench is still low, 220 is as much as I can comfortably max at w/o a spotter. Im not a fan of supplements...I tried SP250, xyience, and creatine in the past and I get way too dehydrated even with sufficient water intake and anxiety.

Any quick workouts I should throw into a start up routine?

[FIcamaroRE92]

what are your goals?

[LTb1ow]

Yea, bulky or more defined mass?

[KirkEvil]

well, I dont think I physically can bulk, I would stay lean and put on the muscle. defined mass is the goal I guess.

I almost **** myself at the life 14 sec at a time. :rofl:

[LTb1ow]

What do you have in the garage? I know you have a bench, and pull up bar right?

[KirkEvil]

Its now in the room. but I have a adjustable incline bench, quad lift, pull down bar, dumbells. Im just looking for some routines to start off with. I have pretty much just been making **** up as I go and doing it until failure.

[LTb1ow]

I have the arnold book if you wanna borrow it, he has some good routines for beginners.

[KirkEvil]

yeah sure I'll check it out.

[fire95bird]

if you wanna get bigger more weight less reps, if u wanna get cut and defined more reps less weight. simple exercises like bench and all variations, deadlift, squat, shoulder presses, pull downs, rows, curls, tri extensions, skull crushers, french curls, Arnold presses, lunges. all can be done with some free weights and dumbbells. Just remember not to over do it and hurt yourself. Slow and steady. Are you lifting everyday, 3 times a week, once a week?

[KirkEvil]

everyday, same group every other day. Im in good shape to begin with and muscle memory brought back strength quick. I have always had better endurance than strength, so most of the lifting I have been doing is more towards a strength workout with more reps...if that makes sense

[LTb1ow]

Strength workout is quick reps with heavy weight, I think at least.

[KirkEvil]

whats heavy weight relative to body weight or max?

[WildBillyT]

Strength workout is quick reps with heavy weight, I think at least.

Yes. Reps below 6.

[KirkEvil]

what kind of weight should I be looking at? as much as I can do to complete the reps?

[JerzLT1]

i do 5 sets of 4 going up 10 lbs each time, my bench goes up 10 lbs every week and a half to 2 weeks

[Tsar]

Just found a gym at home for 55 bucks for 3 months! :mrgreen:

[HeadlessNorseman]

General strength training should be 6-10 reps, going to failure on first and 2nd. For example, if you can do 200 for 10 reps, then 8, then fail at 6, thats a good weight for you. Keep working on it till you can get 10-10-9 or 10 3 times. Then you can go up 20 lbs or so. I used this in high school, read it in a book, and i went from 150 or so to 225 in one school year, prob 4-5 of that actually lifting. Try to do it 3 times a week and dont forget to work your other muscles too to keep it balanced. Ive been focusing more on burning calories/losing weight than getting stronger though, so i do something totally different now

[Jersyboyy]

Im up to 205 6 times running a mile in 6 min and curl 45's 10 times

[madness410]

Im up to 205 6 times running a mile in 6 min and curl 45's 10 times

u are doing tricep exercises right?

[LTb1ow]

Question. http://www.sports-injury-info.com/image-files/post-shoulder-muscles.jpg

I think the muscle I am referring to is the subscapularis. Its sore on my right shoulder, no sharp pains, just a dull throb when I bench. Ideas ?

[madness410]

have you tried dumbell presses?

if not how is your form benching? its a common misconception that your elbows need to be at a 45 degree angle when benching. what you have to do is tuck your elbows in when you bench so you isolate your chest more instead of your shoulders. its kind of hard to explain.

[LTb1ow]

Yea I started doing sets of 15 with 50* dumbells in between benching sets to stretch things out, my form is pretty good, nice and steady up and down.

Just wondering how hard it is to tweak shoulder muscles.

[WildBillyT]

Yea I started doing sets of 15 with 50* dumbells in between benching sets to stretch things out, my form is pretty good, nice and steady up and down.

Just wondering how hard it is to tweak shoulder muscles.

Overuse injury, from what it sounds like. It's very easy to tweak shoulder muscles flat benching. I had an intermittent problem like that.

[LTb1ow]

Ok, so lay off the benching for a while or just drop some weight?

[WildBillyT]

Ok, so lay off the benching for a while or just drop some weight?

I dropped weight and did a better job stretching and icing. Oddly enough, I also stopped sleeping on my side and it went away.

[LTb1ow]

Yea that was my other idea, I sleep on my stomach with my right arm under my chest, weird but I was thinking that may have something to with it.

Any good stretches for shoulders?

[WildBillyT]

Yea that was my other idea, I sleep on my stomach with my right arm under my chest, weird but I was thinking that may have something to with it.

Any good stretches for shoulders?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=113074591

[cdacda13]

Shownomercy, I have had the same feeling in my shoulder too for the last few months. I just lifted though it. Terrible freaking idea. A small, dull pain went to a burning sensation in my shoulder. I haven't lifted in about a month to give it time to heal itself.
WildBillyT is right, stretch and ice it. Drop weight, and if it continues to hurt, don't push it.

[WildBillyT]

Shownomercy, I have had the same feeling in my shoulder too for the last few months. I just lifted though it. Terrible freaking idea. A small, dull pain went to a burning sensation in my shoulder. I haven't lifted in about a month to give it time to heal itself.
WildBillyT is right, stretch and ice it. Drop weight, and if it continues to hurt, don't push it.

Lifting on an injured shoulder like this is a great way to get hurt worse, be forced to take time off, and lose all of your progress.

Don't push it. Concentrate on rehab.

[2RARE84s]

Lifting on an injured shoulder like this is a great way to get hurt worse, be forced to take time off, and lose all of your progress.

Don't push it. Concentrate on rehab.

True. I did the same thing about 3 years ago.. had to take off a couple months.. Sucked.. then I didn't have time to go for about 2 1/2 years... But I've been back in the gym now for about 4 1/2 months. I'm slowly getting back to where I was. I am doing 250 for 4, flat bench, haven't maxed out yet. 50lb dumbells for 10 with 25's for 10 as a super-set for curls. Hopefully I can get back up to 330 or more on bench..

[98tadriver]

i just started up maybe a month ago after taking like 2 months off. muscle memory for the win. im making progress like a mofo. i do 15 12 10 6 or until failure for most of my workouts. for example, i increase the weight 10lbs each set and 20lbs for the last on bench, other workouts vary, dumbell presses i increase 10lbs every set and 10-15lbs more for the last, db flies and other db exercises i just increase 5lbs each set, deadlifts are 10 6 4 increasing 50lbs each time. i throw in supersets from time to time. after i a while, i will switch it up to sets of 10, going heavier on some things. i feel like i get strength and endurance from the 15 12 10 6 method. i always make sure i get my heavy lat pulldowns or weighted pullups in too! theres so much more i do but im not gonna ramble on lol

[procamaroz28]

yesterday put up 135 38 times straight on flat bench... very upset.. i should be able to do that 50 reps straight at this point

anyways this is basket ball season so im concentrating more on full body and lower and vertical leap... any one know of some good vert. workouts???

[98tadriver]

yeah youtube frank yang. check his trainin vid out. when u say 38x straight on bench, are you going all the way up to where u lockout or almost lock out or just halfway? ive seen guys claim to do 50x but they only go half way, not all the way up. just curious is all :D

[Tsar]

Whats the point of doing 135 pounds 50 times? :-? Seems like a waste of time to me. If you could do 100+ push ups non stop - than yea, that's kinda cool. 135 pounds not so much. :shrug:

[LTb1ow]

Endurance.

[Tsar]

Endurance.
O RLY? Why not do 10 pounds 500 times?

[LTb1ow]

I dunno, whatever floats your boat I suppose.

I think he mentioned he was a basket ball player, so building good upper and lower body endurance versus quick strength is probably more desirable.

[WildBillyT]

You guys need to look up century workouts if you are into ultra high rep stuff. They can be tough to finish.

[madness410]

lol some of those are tough..try putting up a 45 lb bar 60 times it gets hard as hell

[JerzLT1]

starting next week ill be doing a new work out plan that consists of 4 miles a day jogging/running and 10 miles with 25 lbs on my back 3 times a week at a fast paced march, once that gets easy itll go to 60lbs. this is on top of my normal weight training work outs. no im not trying to get big just be very well rounded

[LTb1ow]

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs010.snc1/4189_1160097518624_1113366798_507354_7840120_n.jpg

Feels good to be back. :)

First day lifting with nitric oxide.

[procamaroz28]

yeah youtube frank yang. check his trainin vid out. when u say 38x straight on bench, are you going all the way up to where u lockout or almost lock out or just halfway? ive seen guys claim to do 50x but they only go half way, not all the way up. just curious is all :D

ill check it out now, and yes i go up all the way (almost lock out) and down to 90 degrees

Whats the point of doing 135 pounds 50 times? :-? Seems like a waste of time to me. If you could do 100+ push ups non stop - than yea, that's kinda cool. 135 pounds not so much. :shrug:

i do that before i start my chest workout once every other (or every other 2nd) chest workout... not every time, as for push ups i weigh 200lbs i have not really tried to go that far with them but ill give it a try...

[madness410]

starting next week ill be doing a new work out plan that consists of 4 miles a day jogging/running and 10 miles with 25 lbs on my back 3 times a week at a fast paced march, once that gets easy itll go to 60lbs. this is on top of my normal weight training work outs. no im not trying to get big just be very well rounded

dude watch out with that..i heard somewhere doing that can really mess up your back

[WildBillyT]

dude watch out with that..i heard somewhere doing that can really mess up your back

Knees are probably even more of a concern. Keep it off of the asphalt.

[98tadriver]

i pulled most of the stuff i do from the arnold encyclopedia, started doing that around May of last year with a few friends of mine. ill change it up eventually

[JerzLT1]

Knees are probably even more of a concern. Keep it off of the asphalt.

The running will be on asphalt the weight will be in more of a dirt area hopefully, I would be concerned if these weren't the things that will be required for the career field I'm hopefully going into

[madness410]

i wonder if the weights will still have the same effects on an elliptical

[procamaroz28]

ron, i checked out that youtube vid that guy is insane, 63" box leap is insane, thanks...

[LTb1ow]

I started to do more stretchs and the ache seems to have gone away, but I also dropped some weight and am really trying to get a perfect form.

That being said, I can now bench a 4L60E. LOL Yessss

[98tadriver]

ron, i checked out that youtube vid that guy is insane, 63" box leap is insane, thanks...

no prob dude. my friend showed me that video a while back, my thoughts exactly lol

[madness410]

That being said, I can now bench a 4L60E. LOL Yessss

hahah

[LTb1ow]

Real life applications man!

Lifting is useful for something... lol

[madness410]

how much does a 4l60e weigh?

[LTb1ow]

I read 230 ish with fluids.

[madness410]

oh dam not bad

[LTb1ow]

Danke!

[JerzLT1]

i just did 2 miles of indian sprints today, i was sweating like a mofo

[Crayface]

i pulled most of the stuff i do from the arnold encyclopedia, started doing that around May of last year with a few friends of mine. ill change it up eventually

I was about to say, if anyone wants to know anything about muscles, excercises, diets or just about anything relating to lifting buy this book.
This encyclopedia is like the Bible for lifting lol, if anyone wants to borrow it let me know my copy is just sitting on my shelf.

[LTb1ow]

Annnnnd a combo of superpump and a great mindset made for a great lift this morning, added a full set to my workout. :)

[WildBillyT]

I was about to say, if anyone wants to know anything about muscles, excercises, diets or just about anything relating to lifting buy this book.
This encyclopedia is like the Bible for lifting lol, if anyone wants to borrow it let me know my copy is just sitting on my shelf.

Good for lifting, muscle diagrams, and such bot not good for diets IMO. Info is too dated.

[98tadriver]

Annnnnd a combo of superpump and a great mindset made for a great lift this morning, added a full set to my workout. :)

try taking animal stak or animal test and youll be adding more weight before you know it! its good stuff!

[LTb1ow]

Yea I have been looking at stuff like that... is the Superpump brand kind any good?

[WildBillyT]

Yea I have been looking at stuff like that... is the Superpump brand kind any good?

You mean Gaspari's brand. Never used it, but his stuff is always "fringe" so it probably works. Ron is talking about Universal Nutrition's stuff, and that works well too (or so I've been told).

[LTb1ow]

Well would it make any sense to stick to one brand?

Or can you mix and match?

[WildBillyT]

Well would it make any sense to stick to one brand?

Or can you mix and match?

I don't think it matters.

[LTb1ow]

Ok cool.


Will that just add water weight or actual muscle mass?

[98tadriver]

im no universal nutrition nutswinger by any means :lol: but it worked really good for me and my friends who used it. u can stack that with your superpump250. mix and match all u want lol. here's their site- www.animalpak.com


pretty dry gains with that stuff. you will gain muscle mass and keep it :)

[LTb1ow]

If it works, then thats all I need to know.

so you take it with the superpump or later that day type of deal?

[98tadriver]

If it works, then thats all I need to know.

so you take it with the superpump or later that day type of deal?

lol nah when i say "you can stack them," i mean u can take em both, not necessarily at the same time, but whenever it says to take em. I believe i took the animal stak and sp250 pre workout though. i was taking the animal pump pre workout as well. its easier to swallow some pills with my preworkout meal than drink 12 oz of sp250 (even tho it worked good) this way i didnt feel so full lol

[LTb1ow]

I will look into that.

It will make me more bulky?

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

I will look into that.

It will make me more bulky?

you will gain muscle mass and keep it :)

Doesn't that mean yes?

[98tadriver]

lol you wont blow up like a tick. how you look depends on your diet and workout regiment

[Crayface]

I will look into that.

It will make me more bulky?

a huge part of making you more Bulky is in your genes, if your family is relatively small (body size wize) than no. just look at your father and your grandparents.

[LTb1ow]

On a non Olympic size bar, what kinda weight should it be ok too? Not breaking or anything I am more concerned with the bar bouncing.

[WildBillyT]

On a non Olympic size bar, what kinda weight should it be ok too? Not breaking or anything I am more concerned with the bar bouncing.

Around 250. Past that it will start to bend. Too much weight and you can permanently bend it.

You could have used the money you spent on your X-Pipe for an Olympic set :mrgreen:

[madness410]

lol dam i pulled a muscle in my shoulder doing shoulder press yesterday (i hope i just pulled a muscle)..im out for a week, i wanted to take a week off anyway

[LTb1ow]

Around 250. Past that it will start to bend. Too much weight and you can permanently bend it.

Damn. Ok thanks Bill.

Ninja edit eh?

LOL, I didn't spend a dime on the X pipe!

[WildBillyT]

Damn. Ok thanks Bill.

Ninja edit eh?

LOL, I didn't spend a dime on the X pipe!

Heh. Yeah, couldn't let it pass. Seriously though, if you are getting up there in poundage go for an olympic set. Even the cheap sets from Dick's or Sports Authority are better than a standard set.

[LTb1ow]

Yea its kinda visible now that the bar is bending a tad and I am not at 280 yet.

Just sucks to have to ditch a full set of weights to get another set of weights... ah well, pay to play.

[WildBillyT]

Yea its kinda visible now that the bar is bending a tad and I am not at 280 yet.

Just sucks to have to ditch a full set of weights to get another set of weights... ah well, pay to play.

Think of your current weight set as a 10 bolt. You built up around it but it was flawed by design.

[LTb1ow]

LOL good way of putting it.

[procamaroz28]

anyone try novadex?? i need a good pickmeup iv been slacking lately...

[LTb1ow]

What is it? A nitric oxide supp?

[procamaroz28]

its a test booster...

[LTb1ow]

What does that mean?

[JerzLT1]

it boosts your testosterone, like a steroid. i could be mistaken but i believe its very weak and commonly used as a PCT rather then a supplement on its own

[LTb1ow]

Ohh, ok.

[98tadriver]

its not steroids. its a natural test booster. quick search reveals this http://www.king-cart.com/ELITE/product_name=NOVADEX+XT+BY+GASPARI+60+CAPS/return_page=/exact_match=exact

[LTb1ow]

Worth it?

[JerzLT1]

i said like a steroid Ron lol it does a similar thing but not nearly as strong and in a different way

[JerzLT1]

Worth it?

i took T-Bomb 2 (same idea) and saw some nice gains with it. no side effects either

[LTb1ow]

Hmm, I will stick with the NO for now.

[98tadriver]

it boosts your test levels naturally and its a AI, but shouldnt be compared to any kind of steroid. people will think its bad for u if you say that lol. I know people that have used this and it works quite well for them. definately worth it. youll want to buy like 3 bottles. that will do for 6 weeks. you can start off by taking 3/night and work your way up to 6/night then work your way back to 3 at the end

[98tadriver]

matt, dont be scared by supplements. xt and tbomb and a bunch of other natural testboosters will only give you positive gains. you wont get any negative sides

[JerzLT1]

matt, dont be scared by supplements. xt and tbomb and a bunch of other natural testboosters will only give you positive gains. you wont get any negative sides

i fully agree with this, i believe in supplements too especially natural test boosters

[LTb1ow]

matt, dont be scared by supplements. xt and tbomb and a bunch of other natural testboosters will only give you positive gains. you wont get any negative sides


Maybe... IDK...

[procamaroz28]

hmm sounds like its worth a try...

[Crayface]

i have done novadex in when i was playing football in college and i would recommend it, i really liked it and had some nice gains

[LTb1ow]

Kinda random, but do any of you guys that lift heavy weights swim too?

I am kinda thinking of starting again at college but fear I will be told to not lift as much.. thoughts?

[madness410]

i used to..it was great cardio while working out all your muscles

i think if you do long cardio like running 45 minutes at a time thats when you'll start to lose muscle mass

[WildBillyT]

Kinda random, but do any of you guys that lift heavy weights swim too?

I am kinda thinking of starting again at college but fear I will be told to not lift as much.. thoughts?

You can. Supposedly it is good for your joints.

[FIcamaroRE92]

i used to..it was great cardio while working out all your muscles

i think if you do long cardio like running 45 minutes at a time thats when you'll start to lose muscle mass

befor or after you lift?

anyone ever use naNO VAPOR ? seems like its way stronger than the other NO s out there

Warning: For men only and not intended for use by persons under 18. Do not use if you have a myocardial infarction (heart attack). May cause flushing and itching. Consult a medical doctor before use if you have been treated for, or diagnosed with, or have a family history of, any medical condition including (but not limited to) cardiovascular, central nervous system, or genito-urinary problems, cold sores, or if you are using any prescription or over the counter medication(s). Inhalation may amplify the inflammatory airway response in people with asthma. One scoop of this product contains about as much caffeine as between one and one and a half cups of coffee. Do not consume with other arginine products or other sources of caffeine (e.g., tea, coffee, or cola beverages). Do not take within 4 hours of consuming other diet or exercise program. Discontinue use and call a medical doctor immediately if you experience irregular heart beat, chest pain, dizziness, headache, nausea, or other similar symptoms. Do not exceed recommended serving. Improper use of this product will not improve results and is not advised. Do not refrigerate. Do not use if imprinted seal under cap is broken. Store in a cool, dry place (60-80 F) KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN.

just a little hesitant to try this one..........

[98tadriver]

i trie dthat stuff before. didnt feel like i gained anything from it and it didnt taste that good

[LTb1ow]

SP250 and a good mindset. Works wonders. ;)

**** weight tmmr.

[WildBillyT]

befor or after you lift?

anyone ever use naNO VAPOR ? seems like its way stronger than the other NO s out there

Warning: For men only and not intended for use by persons under 18. Do not use if you have a myocardial infarction (heart attack). May cause flushing and itching. Consult a medical doctor before use if you have been treated for, or diagnosed with, or have a family history of, any medical condition including (but not limited to) cardiovascular, central nervous system, or genito-urinary problems, cold sores, or if you are using any prescription or over the counter medication(s). Inhalation may amplify the inflammatory airway response in people with asthma. One scoop of this product contains about as much caffeine as between one and one and a half cups of coffee. Do not consume with other arginine products or other sources of caffeine (e.g., tea, coffee, or cola beverages). Do not take within 4 hours of consuming other diet or exercise program. Discontinue use and call a medical doctor immediately if you experience irregular heart beat, chest pain, dizziness, headache, nausea, or other similar symptoms. Do not exceed recommended serving. Improper use of this product will not improve results and is not advised. Do not refrigerate. Do not use if imprinted seal under cap is broken. Store in a cool, dry place (60-80 F) KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN.

just a little hesitant to try this one..........

IMO, unless your PL total is above at least 1000 or you have a good reason to cut down to 8% body fat I'd cut the **** and just lift and eat right.

[FIcamaroRE92]

Anyone ever use Muscle Asylum Project products, their commercials on youtube are sick.

[madness410]

befor or after you lift?

training in general. according to arnold schwarze******s modern encyclopedia of bodybuilding...there are two types of muscle fibers, red and white. red is non aerobic, used mainly during lifting, and white is aerobic, mostly for cardio and stuff.

overtraining begins when you train too much in a short period of time and doesnt let your muscles recover fully, the white fibers feed off of the red fibers, losing muscle mass i would assume.

[LTb1ow]

Switch back to NOxplod today... cheaper and more material for the price... we shall see. SP250 was not cutting it anymore. :(

[98tadriver]

go buy some novedex xt or Tbomb 2, or animal stak or animal test. it will certainly "cut it" for you :D