Lifting PRs!

[LTb1ow]

Next month, I will.

I always forgot right up to running out of whatever stuff I have, and then am stuck with getting new stuff local.

[madness410]

matt where do you get your products from? have you checked out dpsnutrition.net? almost cuts the price in half of what GNC sells the same products for. i get n.o. xplode for less than 30 bucks shipped to my house, same with sp250, all my protein powder, etc.

[LTb1ow]

Yea, thats what I should do, like I said I always wait to the last minute... paid 45 for 2.5 lbs of NO today at Vitamin shop.

[madness410]

return it.

http://www.dpsnutrition.net/get_item_bs054.htm

they raised the prices but i think its because its a different size. that or my memory is not serving me right today. but DPS is awesome, you buy 1 thing or 20 things the shipping is still 5 bucks. and they are in pennsylvania, ive had stuff come the day after i ordered it.

[LTb1ow]

Wish I could, I lifted with it already. Like I said, next month I will order online.

[madness410]

word. another good thing is to get your lifting partners / buddies into looking at that site..me and my friends do we order a bunch of stuff, 100+ bucks worth of stuff, they give us free shirts or whatever and shipping is still 5 bucks.

how do you like the n.o. xplode compared to sp250? what flavor did you get? ive tried raspberry, lemon lime, and fruit punch and they all sucked the fat one, but u dont really buy those products for taste

[FIcamaroRE92]

Yea, thats what I should do, like I said I always wait to the last minute... paid 45 for 2.5 lbs of NO today at Vitamin shop.

Matt, jon is right about dps, as soon as he showd me it i ordered all my **** from them


And have you tried Black Powder yet? lol

the run down for me compared to sp250 and no-xplode
scale of 1/10
Black Powder SP250 NO xplode
Taste 9/10 4/10 7/10
Mixing 5/10 10/10 6/10
effective 9/10 7/10 7/10
cost 2/10 5/10 8/10

[madness410]

which company makes black powder?

[FIcamaroRE92]

word. another good thing is to get your lifting partners / buddies into looking at that site..me and my friends do we order a bunch of stuff, 100+ bucks worth of stuff, they give us free shirts or whatever and shipping is still 5 bucks.

how do you like the n.o. xplode compared to sp250? what flavor did you get? ive tried raspberry, lemon lime, and fruit punch and they all sucked the fat one, but u dont really buy those products for taste

Rasberry tasted like straight up ****.



I just got somee of the MAP anabolic OD, **** is ****ing amazing, and tastes like heaven compared to other supplements

[FIcamaroRE92]

which company makes black powder?

MRI

[JerzLT1]

go buy some novedex xt or Tbomb 2, or animal stak or animal test. it will certainly "cut it" for you :D

yeah the nice thing about the Tbomb is if you do heavy weight youll bulk fast but you can cut with it as well, im seeing really nice results with it this time around. i mixed it with running and some total body work outs and im cutting really nice (lower estrogen lvls help with that as well)

[LTb1ow]

I may try some of that stuff...


Worth it to stack something with the NOxplod?

[Crayface]

yea i did that stack before and got some nice gains...cept i used novadex instead of tbomb.

[LTb1ow]

I mean stacking something with the NO nonsense...

[FIcamaroRE92]

Matt, check the bottle, usually they'll tell you on the label or on their website whats best to stack with.

[cdacda13]

Matt, check the bottle, usually they'll tell you on the label or on their website whats best to stack with.

Which is just another product that the company sells for an outrageous price.

[FIcamaroRE92]

Which is just another product that the company sells for an outrageous price.

why of course lol :nod:

or another compay thats owned by them


ask around on the fourms at bodybuilding.com

[madness410]

ask around on the fourms at bodybuilding.com

nooo lol dont do that. there are an unbelievable amount of people there who think they know what they are talking about and odds are you will get advice that has worked for them and only them and probably wont work for you. keep in mind everybodys body is different and reacts differently to anything

[WildBillyT]

nooo lol dont do that. there are an unbelievable amount of people there who think they know what they are talking about and odds are you will get advice that has worked for them and only them and probably wont work for you. keep in mind everybodys body is different and reacts differently to anything

If you go to BB.com, put your waders on. A TON OF KIDDIE BS and bad info. Telling guys to go on heavy duty stacks when they can barely bench 250, poor squat form videos, dumb "catch phrases", you name it.

[LTb1ow]

I just want something to help me bulk I guess. I am stuck at 200 ish weight, I am adding weight to all my exercises too...

[madness410]

If you go to BB.com, put your waders on. A TON OF KIDDIE BS and bad info. Telling guys to go on heavy duty stacks when they can barely bench 250, poor squat form videos, dumb "catch phrases", you name it.

exactly. id say the best advice is find someone who knows their stuff and has been lifting for a while, and go to him for all your advice. one of my good buddies just happens to be a personal trainer / amateur body builder and i go to him for all my advice.

if you ask somebody behind a computer screen it could be the person giving you advice is some scrawny 16 year old who thinks hes big because he has 8% body fat and lifts twice a week..you never know.

[WildBillyT]

exactly. id say the best advice is find someone who knows their stuff and has been lifting for a while, and go to him for all your advice. one of my good buddies just happens to be a personal trainer / amateur body builder and i go to him for all my advice.

if you ask somebody behind a computer screen it could be the person giving you advice is some scrawny 16 year old who thinks hes big because he has 8% body fat and lifts twice a week..you never know.

Or someone who is young, big and bulky but will need a liver or kidney transplant in 10 years.

[cdacda13]

I just want something to help me bulk I guess. I am stuck at 200 ish weight, I am adding weight to all my exercises too...

Eat more. Evaluate your current diet. Are you sure you're eating enough to gain weight?
Its simple, More calories eaten than calories burned equals weight gain.
Edit: I'm not saying go out a eat junk food to get your intake up. Healthy food.

[FIcamaroRE92]

nooo lol dont do that. there are an unbelievable amount of people there who think they know what they are talking about and odds are you will get advice that has worked for them and only them and probably wont work for you. keep in mind everybodys body is different and reacts differently to anything

:shock: wow I did not know that, but i dont go there often at all. I guess its obvious tho. you should expect that lol .

[LTb1ow]

I haz black powder. :)

Sold the NO cause it sucked, and got some MRI stuff.

It says only one scoop, I am used to two or three with SP250... ?

[madness410]

the scoop is bigger? maybe its more potent too. i gotta try that stuff after i get off of ephedrine

[LTb1ow]

IDK, I did one scoop and eh, I will try two scoops next time.

[madness410]

im assuming you have to let your body work its way into it and adapt. keep me updated on how that black powder goes i may try it as my next supplement

[LTb1ow]

Yea, and I weigh about 205 so I would assume the one scoop is just a general starting point for all body weights... it says no more than 3 scoops in a 24 hour period.

[FIcamaroRE92]

Yea, and I weigh about 205 so I would assume the one scoop is just a general starting point for all body weights... it says no more than 3 scoops in a 24 hour period.

I do two scoops a day.

what flavor did you get?

[LTb1ow]

Blue raspberry. I may lift again tmmr for ****s and giggles.

[madness410]

is black powder a pre workout supplement?

[Knipps]

the scoop is bigger? maybe its more potent too. i gotta try that stuff after i get off of ephedrine
that **** can kill you

[JerzLT1]

yeah ephedrine isnt the greatest thing to take, check your pulse when your on it and just sitting still

[LTb1ow]

is black powder a pre workout supplement?

I dunno?

I thought it was in the same grouping as NO, SP etc

[madness410]

yeah ephedrine isnt the greatest thing to take, check your pulse when your on it and just sitting still

yeah ive heard the stories...its a thermogenic drug...people would use it and go running hard in 90 degree weather..i know what you can and cant do on it. my cycle is almost up.

I dunno?

I thought it was in the same grouping as NO, SP etc

thats what i thought too

[FIcamaroRE92]

yeah ive heard the stories...its a thermogenic drug...people would use it and go running hard in 90 degree weather..i know what you can and cant do on it. my cycle is almost up.



thats what i thought too

it is
take it 0-30 min before workout.

[WildBillyT]

that **** can kill you

Most of this **** will kill you. Just a question of how fast.

[LTb1ow]

I prob asked this before, but not sure of it, I do not need to match NO supps with stacker products right?

[WildBillyT]

FYI, why you always should pay for quality:

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm171458.htm

[LTb1ow]

Yuck.

MRI = good?

[WildBillyT]

Yuck.

MRI = good?

Blood and urine tests = good.

Permanent liver, kindey, and cardiovascular damage = bad

[LTb1ow]

So should I get tests?

[madness410]

bill out of curiosity which supplements do you take? i drink about one protein shake a day..

[WildBillyT]

Whey and a vitamin, Creatine every other month, joint supp as needed.

SNM- If you haven't, get a blood test at the very least. Make sure they test for ALT/AST liver enzymes.

[LTb1ow]

Ok, I will run that past the rents and see what they think.

How often in general would you recommend getting tested?

[FIcamaroRE92]

so what companies should we watch out for then..............

[FIcamaroRE92]

Whey and a vitamin, Creatine every other month, joint supp as needed.

SNM- If you haven't, get a blood test at the very least. Make sure they test for ALT/AST liver enzymes.



Iam kinda lost here, but what do they have to do with the FDA investagation?????????

[WildBillyT]

so what companies should we watch out for then..............

Do a search on FDA.gov on a company before you buy their stuff and see if there's anything shady about them. Most of the time you won't find anything.

Example:

http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm152152.htm

EDIT- SNM was not reffering to that post. He was referring to one above it. I posted the FDA link here in case anyone happened to take any of those companies products.

SNM: You just want to make sure that you aren't really stressing your organs too much. Most supplements (if not all) are not tested that much for safety and/or haven't been around long enough for long-term effects to start showing up. ALT and AST are the liver enzymes that get elevated if your liver is under stress.

[LTb1ow]

Ok, you have me worried now Bill... lol

I will talk with my mom at lunch today and see if I can go in soon for some bloodwork.

[FIcamaroRE92]

Thanks Bill, will do from now on.

















Matt here is some stuff on MRI that I found




on their website, go to NSF certified products.
apparently they are tested and certified by nsf for their lableing.
http://www.mri-performance.com/
http://www.nsf.org/index.asp
http://www.nsf.org/consumer/dietary_supplements/index.asp?program=DietarySup

[WildBillyT]

Ok, you have me worried now Bill... lol

I will talk with my mom at lunch today and see if I can go in soon for some bloodwork.

I'm not trying to scare anybody! Really! It's just that keeping tabs on your internal health is a good idea if you are taking a lot of supps. Forums, magazines, ads, and such make it look like drinking some of this stuff is harmless and is the same as drinking Gatorade or Fruit Punch- but it's not. Ma Huang/Ephdra was all the rage until somebody died, and then the whole industry said "OOPS! Sorry" and that was that.

[LTb1ow]

Thanks Pete, I feel better know kinda.. still gonna try and get some blood work soon. Can't hurt I guess.

Bill, yea I know, I just get worried about things like this... although liver transplants are among the easiest to do. ;) lol

[FIcamaroRE92]

Thanks Pete, I feel better know kinda.. still gonna try and get some blood work soon. Can't hurt I guess.

Bill, yea I know, I just get worried about things like this... although liver transplants are among the easiest to do. ;) lol

ya I might as well get some tests done too, even tho I only take an NO, and whey.

[LTb1ow]

Yea same here... but still... chemicals are never good for you... ah well.

[LTb1ow]

I hate to keep kicking this thread back, but figure its better than making a lot of similar threads.

I am looking for alternatives to NO. I mainly just take it for mental help now. It def has lost its origanal effects on me. So what kind of things can I take for a pre workout supp?

Also, I think because I can't do pyramid or fail workouts, I am having a hard time building mass, any thoughts on that? I just do 4 sets of each exercise.

[FIcamaroRE92]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm subforums???? lol prolly not enough intrest in this topic

have you taken a tolerance break yet from the NO?

[LTb1ow]

Yea I cycled off it for like two or three months and when I got back on it, it had no real affect on me.

After I finish the black powder, I am going to stop using NO. I was thinking just getting some creatine.

[FIcamaroRE92]

yeah im getting some too soon

[LTb1ow]

It would not be beneficial to get a stacker and take creatine correct? I think they are remotely the same right?

[FIcamaroRE92]

It would not be beneficial to get a stacker and take creatine correct? I think they are remotely the same right?

idk?

dude, check your o-rings in your mixing bottles. NO (blk powder) is carbonated I guess, so the other day i put 2 scoops in and procede to shake it. all of a sudden the ****ing whole top of the bottle flys off creating a huge popping sound showering all my freshly done laundry with 8oz. of fruit explosion. Man, I was PISSED. it was every where. even on the ****ing ceeling. I even had my ****ing hand on the top while it exploded.

[LTb1ow]

Which, is why I use a cup and a spoon ;)

[procamaroz28]

N O is not meant to be shaken

[LTb1ow]

Yup, makes a huge mess.

[madness410]

haha that sucks pete.

i just ordered some extend by scivation for a post workout shake. it came with scivations version of nitric oxide called vasocharge. i hear its buttcheeks but ill try it for a week or two and see if i have any noticeable gains.

[LTb1ow]

Creatine, what brand is good?

[madness410]

ehh..id say wait until your workouts plateau and then use something for a little extra push..

i try to stay away from using supplements as much as possible unless i really need it. as bill said earlier any of them will kill you just a matter of how long

[LTb1ow]

I just get disenhearted when I see no gain in mass.

[madness410]

have u switched up your routine lately? sometimes if you do the same stuff for a while your body expects it. if you do different workouts you can shock muscles into growing bigger.

[procamaroz28]

mass comes with good rest...

[LTb1ow]

I lift ever other day, asleep by 10 every night...

[procamaroz28]

increase weight so that u can barely finish a set of 10...

[LTb1ow]

I lift alone, so I really don't like lifting to fail...

[procamaroz28]

that may be the prob... just tell someone near by to spot u or some one thats working cause thats basically their job... where u lift anyways??

[LTb1ow]

Mi casa.

[madness410]

yeah at least 8 hours of sleep a night...growth hormones are crazy in deep sleep

[fire95bird]

Just started doing High Intensity Training work outs. Full body work outs 3 times a week, 3 sets of 8-12. Just started my 3rd week of working out and have lost some fat and im now 180. Havent been 180 since track season in high school. Stresses form and intensity, i feel like i accomplish so much more in my workouts. Haven't started taking my protein again so ill prob start that soon too. Great book with alot of information in it too. Mostly aimed as a bodybuilding book but is a great lifting book too

[FIcamaroRE92]

didnt know it wasnt ment to be shaken, I shook it ever since I started using it...........

well now that im informed that it was my fault.... lol
I will never use a bottle again.

[madness410]

i think if you shake it also it loses its potency. i could be wrong. but it says on all the bottles dont shake haha..i just use a spoon and a cup

[FIcamaroRE92]

ohh I prolly didnt read the fine print lol..........

[LTb1ow]

So what are some different work outs I could do instead of just 4 x 10 stuff. I would love to do a pyramid type workout, but again, lift alone, can't do it safely.

[FIcamaroRE92]

woking out at a gym for free is FTW.

[LTb1ow]

Bah, people are ftl.

I really should though.

[FIcamaroRE92]

whats your setup at home???

[LTb1ow]

Bench, free weights, and a pull up/dip bar setup. Rowing machine. More free weights. And, a way to loud stereo for my room. :)

[FIcamaroRE92]

didnt you say a while back you were looking at a squat rack??????????

[LTb1ow]

Looking at yes, but decided not to as I am going to college in the fall. So no real need to buy more equipment when I have access to a real gym soon.

[fire95bird]

Super sets?

[LTb1ow]

How much does a standard, non Olympic bar weigh?

~20 lbs?

[WildBillyT]

How much does a standard, non Olympic bar weigh?

~20 lbs?

25 I believe.

[LTb1ow]

Ok cool cool.

Any one wanna trade two 50lb plates for 4 25lb plates? :)

[WildBillyT]

I will search and see if I have any left over standard stuff. If I do, it's yours.

[LTb1ow]

Awesome!

Although, the bar is kinda, bending... kinda worries me, kinda makes me feel like I can lift a lot.. ;)

[WildBillyT]

Awesome!

Although, the bar is kinda, bending... kinda worries me, kinda makes me feel like I can lift a lot.. ;)

Buy a piece of pipe to "sleeve" the center? Not sure how much that would help though.

[LTb1ow]

I was going to figure out to a rough estimate how much weight I can throw on it, and how long I can leave it on there until permanent damage occurs.

Engineering classes put to good use. :)

[madness410]

ive recently been doing some drop sets for some of my workouts.

take lateral raises for shoulders for example...i would do as many as i can with 30's...then once my form starts suffering...drop them and start doing the 20's immediately...do the same..drop those do 10's..after that i do sets with just my arms lol. it burns so bad. i only do that for my last set on that exercise. thats something thats easy to try.

[LTb1ow]

More weight on every exercise is owning me this morning.

No hurts/pains yet though, so wootz.

[madness410]

not bad not bad. keep it up. make sure you get some good protein in also.

vasocharge by scivation sucks btw...worst N.O. ive ever had..

[LTb1ow]

I heard it was good stuff?


I plan on switching back to SP250 if I don't decide to just do creatine.

And I tweaked my shoulder on my last set of bench... figures.

[madness410]

nah vasocharge sucks. the reason why i got it is because i bought some post workout stuff from scivation and it came with it...so pretty much i got to try it out for free.

be careful with that creatine..ive heard stories of people taking the worst craps of their lives when they first start taking it

[LTb1ow]

Well I am taking a week off looks like... shoulder is not feeling so good.

[madness410]

yeah bro ive been there..it sucks but sometimes its good to let your body take a week off and fully recooperate. you can still work lower body, just dont do things that involve your shoulder like deadlifts

[Tsar]

Maybe someone know, is there a good way to get your 1.5 or 2 mile run down to <12 minutes? Preferably 2, but I'll live with 1.5 for now.

[LTb1ow]

Run faster?


LOL sorry if thats a dumb answer, but I don't think there is a magic answer. Running is a mental thing which you probably know, so running with a friend helps a lot.

As for training, do you have access to a track?

[Tsar]

Run faster?


LOL sorry if thats a dumb answer, but I don't think there is a magic answer. Running is a mental thing which you probably know, so running with a friend helps a lot.

As for training, do you have access to a track?

Running faster makes me run slower times because I don't pace myself, get out of breath and slow down to a walk. I found out the hard way :lol: As far as a friend goes, all the people that I know that go to the gym are into lifting, not running, so I'm SOL on that part.

I do have an access to a track, old HS one, but I prefer to run at the gym because there's a timer there, which clearly tells me when I have to move my ass!

[LTb1ow]

Well I was going to suggest running laps on a 1/4 track, try to shoot for a certain time and run it. Start at the mid straight and when you do a lap, walk to the other side and do it again.

Try for however many laps it would take to get to your mileage. Bitch of a workout but helps you get able to maintain a good pace.

[Tsar]

Yea that's what I'm kinda doing right now on a treadmill, I was hoping I was missing something obvious, and there was another way. I guess I gotta run more.... yay, I'm so excited..

[LTb1ow]

Yea, running is no fun.

Why only 2 miles though if you don't mind me asking?

Easier to train for a 5k I think.

[HeadlessNorseman]

work the lower abs/hip flexor muscles and calves. Youll feel the difference after a few weeks. Also, shoot for a maximum distance within 12 minutes, instead of trying to cover 2 miles in X time (12 mins). Its a lot more fun that way. I find running to be one of the most boring things you could possibly do though so that doesnt help me.

[Tsar]

Yea, running is no fun.

Why only 2 miles though if you don't mind me asking?

Easier to train for a 5k I think.
Ehh, I've been looking (already applied) at certain jobs and they require me to run those times. Well actually they require me to run slower, which I can do with no problem at this time, but I don't want to get by with just a minimum. Plus I might join the military in the near future, I hear they like to run a lot :lol:

[LTb1ow]

Yea, treadmills suck IMO.

Having a clear set distance, or course needed to be completed in X amount of time is much easier.

[Tsar]

Maybe I should invest in a stop watch...

[LTb1ow]

You have an iphone? Ipod? Cellphone?

They all work ;)

[Tsar]

Good call, I have an itouch - it has one of those handy dandy stop watches! :lol:

[WildBillyT]

Coupon code:

http://youandyourfamily.com/page_images/Image/Vouchers/vitamin-shoppe.pdf

If they give you any crap just tell them your quadriceps are your babies, and they are twins.

[LTb1ow]

LOL, I saw that too late Bill, damn it.

Blood work either tmmr or Wednesday... should be interesting...

[madness410]

yeah i just got mine done last week for my fire department physical..hopefully everything is all good

[LTb1ow]

I am debating whether to lift before hand. ;)

LOL.

[WildBillyT]

I am debating whether to lift before hand. ;)

LOL.

I know you know this, but you ABSOLUTELY don't do that.

[LTb1ow]

Heh. :) Yea I know.

[Tsar]

Don't do what? whats going on here, I'm confused.

[LTb1ow]

Do not take SP250 and lift before a blood test.... LOL

[WildBillyT]

Do not take SP250 OR lift before a blood test.... LOL

Fixed

[LTb1ow]

So I am trying for 5 sets of 8 versus 4 sets of 10 on bench, someone suggested it to me.

Thoughts?

[WildBillyT]

So I am trying for 5 sets of 8 versus 4 sets of 10 on bench, someone suggested it to me.

Thoughts?

Sure. Why not?

[LTb1ow]

I am just curious, they were adamant that 8 was a good almost magic number. Wondering if there was truth behind that.

[WildBillyT]

I am just curious, they were adamant that 8 was a good almost magic number. Wondering if there was truth behind that.

Oddly enough, I do 8's on a lot of stuff. Closer to the power building numbers without going too far.

[LTb1ow]

That last set is tough. Good change though.

[madness410]

6 reps is enough to activate your muscle fibers. depends what you are going for really...some people do insane weight for just 3 reps to build up their strength.

and of course...i heard the #1 myth in working out that this kid SWEARS to. he goes: (and i quote) "i do 300 reps of curls with a 5 pound dumbell, im sculpting my biceps". i got a good laugh out of it..

[WildBillyT]

6 reps is enough to activate your muscle fibers. depends what you are going for really...some people do insane weight for just 3 reps to build up their strength.

and of course...i heard the #1 myth in working out that this kid SWEARS to. he goes: (and i quote) "i do 300 reps of curls with a 5 pound dumbell, im sculpting my biceps". i got a good laugh out of it..

Which fibers? A or B (Type I or Type II)?

The century workout is a bitch, and that works. So does the 5x5. As long as you are moving weight you will be doing something. Whether or not it's the RIGHT thing is a different story.

[LTb1ow]

Yea, I prob do half way backwards lifting... but it works I guess, I keep adding more weight... not gaining any mass though, was down to 198 today. :(

[Tsar]

Why cant one lift before a blood test? I've been told not to do it after, but not before. :|

[LTb1ow]

Suppose you could, but in my case, my blood would be chock full of not natural stuff.

[WildBillyT]

Why cant one lift before a blood test? I've been told not to do it after, but not before. :|

Throws off your AST and ALT levels

[madness410]

Which fibers? A or B (Type I or Type II)?

the white muscle fibers, the non aerobic fibers

[Crayface]

Its simple, the more reps will be more towards making the muscle more define, the less reps with more wieght on it, increase mass.

i started lifting again a month and a half ago and slowly i will be back up to my normal wieghts and all i been using is superrrr dumpppp haha

[madness410]

george let me know if you need a partner lifting at kean...im pretty sure ill be there 3-4 days a week with my schedule and not at the gym near my house

[LTb1ow]

Got blood taken today, hopefully get results back in a week.

[madness410]

got my bloodwork back today....hmm...chemistry panel came back abnormal, high creatinine...need a kidney test. aaaand urinalysis had high protein. im looking this crap up now

[FIcamaroRE92]

got my bloodwork back today....hmm...chemistry panel came back abnormal, high creatinine...need a kidney test. aaaand urinalysis had high protein. im looking this crap up now


wow

[madness410]

yeah im trying to think if its something i should take kindly on...i think a little change in your body is expected when supplementing something like protein. i just dont know if the change is minor or major with me. i dont go crazy on them either..have one a day and one protein bar every other day.

[FIcamaroRE92]

yeah im trying to think if its something i should take kindly on...i think a little change in your body is expected when supplementing something like protein. i just dont know if the change is minor or major with me. i dont go crazy on them either..have one a day and one protein bar every other day.

one what?

forgive me if I read wrong

[WildBillyT]

got my bloodwork back today....hmm...chemistry panel came back abnormal, high creatinine...need a kidney test. aaaand urinalysis had high protein. im looking this crap up now

How long did you stop your supplements for before going for the test?

[madness410]

i didnt stop my supplements...i use a whey protein every morning for my morning shake...and use an amino acid supplement post workout.

however i did fast for 12 hours before going for the test, so there was nothing in my system like a usual blood test

[WildBillyT]

i didnt stop my supplements...i use a whey protein every morning for my morning shake...and use an amino acid supplement post workout.

however i did fast for 12 hours before going for the test, so there was nothing in my system like a usual blood test

It takes longer than 12 hours for some of this stuff to clear. And by taking that amino acid supplement you were introducing the very enzymes they test for into your body artificially.

Do what you wish- but I'd go no sup for 3 weeks or so and then go for another test.

[madness410]

arrite i didnt know that...im gonna take your advice and do no supplements for 3 weeks then test again. thanks for the info bill.

[LTb1ow]

Ouch Jon.

Yea I would go with what Bill said and get tested after a cycle off.

My test is prob gonna come back the same...

[madness410]

yeah good luck with your test matt. if it does come back the same im sure its nothing serious. ill keep everyone posted with my tests.

[LTb1ow]

Yea, should hear sometime this weak how ****ed up my insides are.

Ah well... coming up on a off cycle so I guess that works out for me.

[Crayface]

Yo Jon, what was that site u use to order ur stuff from? I need more Superdump and let me know if you want to order anything.

[Tsar]

What are you testing for, ladies?

[LTb1ow]

Just a in general blood test, family history of heart problems etc...

Figured it also would be nice to see what my liver is doing.

[madness410]

Yo Jon, what was that site u use to order ur stuff from? I need more Superdump and let me know if you want to order anything.

http://www.dpsnutrition.net/get_by_64.htm

best prices online on superpump. im takin a break from supps for a while. but if u order on a monday from that website it will be in by wednesday shipping is so quick.

What are you testing for, ladies?

i had to get a physical for my fire department and i had blood taken..results were unusual amounts of creatinine in my blood and protein in my pee lol

[LTb1ow]

Moving into college today, plan on heading down to the gym to kill time.

I am worried a full gym is gonna overwhelm me and I will get nothing done...

What should I try to use ?

[madness410]

best thing ive learned is to keep an eye open...ive taken so many peoples workout regimens and workouts themselves just by watching them. of course watch the guys who actually know what they are doing though..

whats your routine like now? do you have a day for every muscle group?

[LTb1ow]

Nope, just lifting days and non lifting days.

Ah well, I guess I will see when I get there... should be interesting... not the school gym so I assume there won't be many heavy lifters there...

[FIcamaroRE92]

Nope, just lifting days and non lifting days.

Ah well, I guess I will see when I get there... should be interesting... not the school gym so I assume there won't be many heavy lifters there...

theres a few at every gym lol..........

[LTb1ow]

There was one other guy there, so not bad.

Did my usual workout, albeit it was mostly on machines.


Friggen bench machines suckkkkkk so much.

[FIcamaroRE92]

the ones that you stand up (or slanted) and push out?

[WildBillyT]

the ones that you stand up (or slanted) and push out?

Those are "chest press" machines... probably what he means though.

[FIcamaroRE92]

or maby the smith machine...?????

[LTb1ow]

IDK what its called, but its a pain having to twist your wrist to take the locks off and what not. I think I will just try to do chest workouts with loose weights.

[FIcamaroRE92]

if the bar slid up and down on tracks its the smith machine

[LTb1ow]

Yea it was a pain, could never get it to where it felt even across my chest, and it was like 3 feet above me laying down... no good.

[FIcamaroRE92]

ehhh, I never see people doing becnh press at my gym with it. usually they do squats, shrugs, shoulder press....etc

[FIcamaroRE92]

your gym dosn't have just a regular bench and bar setup?

[LTb1ow]

Nope. Kind of a panzy gym if you ask me..

[WildBillyT]

Nope. Kind of a panzy gym if you ask me..

Says the man with only standard weights. Cut them a break. Insurance company probably neutered their gym.

[LTb1ow]

Nah, its more of a spa setting than anything else... lots of treadmills etc, tanning beds..

Lots of machines, so maybe I will head to the school gym.

And nothing wrong with standard weights! ;)

[madness410]

idk man...id say keep hitting the gym there, you'll find new ways to work out everything its just part of finding a new gym..well thats what happened to me at least when i switched going from nysc to retro fitness

[Tsar]

Smith machine sucks for any exercise... Why was it made, anyways? For people who are afraid to use proper weight and overload the bar so they can have more "safety" and limited range of motion?

[LTb1ow]

Yea, heading back this afternoon...

Another thing is, I forgot to bring a small pair of headphones, so I have a tough time focusing.

[madness410]

Smith machine sucks for any exercise... Why was it made, anyways? For people who are afraid to use proper weight and overload the bar so they can have more "safety" and limited range of motion?

depends...i used the smith machine for front squats to get the form down before doing it on a regular squat rack.

[FIcamaroRE92]

Smith machine sucks for any exercise... Why was it made, anyways? For people who are afraid to use proper weight and overload the bar so they can have more "safety" and limited range of motion?

I find no use for it.:shrug:

[FIcamaroRE92]

sorry I lied, I do use it sometimes to work my calves

[Tsar]

depends...i used the smith machine for front squats to get the form down before doing it on a regular squat rack.

Mehh, I just used the bar without weights to get myself used to doing front squats. It's all fine and dandy now. I still think it's useless.

[WildBillyT]

Mehh, I just used the bar without weights to get myself used to doing front squats. It's all fine and dandy now. I still think it's useless.

It's another one of those magical machines designed by insurance companies so retards don't kill themselves.

Better?:mrgreen:

[LTb1ow]

I stay away from it.

Nice workout today, although I find that when there are other people around I tend to get my workout done a lot faster. LOL

[madness410]

yeah make sure you learn proper gym etiquette also...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnstNnqYp2M&feature=related

honestly they goof off on it but most of them are real lol..dont talk to someone mid set, dont walk in between someone doing an exercise and the mirror, rack weights etc hahah. oh and try your best not to grunt...i hate those people

[HeadlessNorseman]

yeah make sure you learn proper gym etiquette also...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnstNnqYp2M&feature=related

honestly they goof off on it but most of them are real lol..dont talk to someone mid set, dont walk in between someone doing an exercise and the mirror, rack weights etc hahah. oh and try your best not to grunt...i hate those people

A lot of the guys at my gym will stare when you do curls or bench(only those 2) and will then do it right after you and try to kick the weight up. I cant stand that. Thats why i only lift weights at home now. I basically pay 20 bucks a month to use cardio machines and do lat pull downs

[LTb1ow]

I am headed back today, its nice to be able to really push yourself.

[sweetbmxrider]

i lifted last night at like 11. it was terrible. feel good now though

[madness410]

i lifted last night at like 11. it was terrible. feel good now though

for the first time in how long? sometimes you just have to shake the rust off. if you need any help there have been knowledgable people always posting in this thread..

[madness410]

I am headed back today, its nice to be able to really push yourself.

how about the girls man..any hott girls in your gym?

[LTb1ow]

how about the girls man..any hott girls in your gym?

Nope, its me, and my reflections. Otherwise, empty gym.

NJIT is like 100 guys to every 1 girl.

[Squirrel]

i really need to start putting together a home gym... im starting to realize how much i hate people once again

[madness410]

i really need to start putting together a home gym... im starting to realize how much i hate people once again

have u tried going at different times? during the summer i noticed most people went from 4-730ish. so i would either go at noon or go at like 9 at night lol. i dont like people that much either

[Squirrel]

have u tried going at different times? during the summer i noticed most people went from 4-730ish. so i would either go at noon or go at like 9 at night lol. i dont like people that much either

well at home i would be fine since my gym, but ive lived down here fulltime for the last 2 years or so, so i have to go to the school gym which is only open during school hours, so its pretty much packed all day with bench and curl ********... and all the gyms around here frown upon 'powerlifting' movements... 405 landing on the ground from lockout scares cardio bunnies for some reason:twisted:

[madness410]

wtf lol ive never heard of that...you dont go to balley total fitness do u? lol

[Squirrel]

wtf lol ive never heard of that...you dont go to balley total fitness do u? lol

na.. one would think so though.. its a shame though, cuz theres a huge powerlifting gym about a half hour away.. but its only open short hours and would be a huge inconvience getting out there and juggling school and work

[LTb1ow]

Yea my gym is empty all the time, every day.

Just me and my reflections.

I need a good back exercise. Ideas?

[WildBillyT]

Yea my gym is empty all the time, every day.

Just me and my reflections.

I need a good back exercise. Ideas?

Deads, bent over rows, seated rows. Good Mornings for lower back.

[LTb1ow]

Ok, not sure how much I could dead lift, there is no free weights for bars.

But I have been doing the thing where its like a reverse curl, you lock your feet in and then lower your upper body down. I hold a ten pound weight and that usually gets my lower back nice and sore.

[Squirrel]

Ok, not sure how much I could dead lift, there is no free weights for bars.

But I have been doing the thing where its like a reverse curl, you lock your feet in and then lower your upper body down. I hold a ten pound weight and that usually gets my lower back nice and sore.

glute ham raise, really rocks your hamstrings

[madness410]

Yea my gym is empty all the time, every day.

Just me and my reflections.

I need a good back exercise. Ideas?

pull ups, weighted pull ups, close grip pull ups, wide grip pull ups. pull ups are always good.

[LTb1ow]

New question..

At the moment, I do 5 sets of 8 reps for each exercise. Should I bump up the sets to make it a square 8? Or just add more weight?

[Squirrel]

all depends on what your ultimate goal is
on accessory/recovery type stuff i like to use higher sets, higher reps, lighter weight
but on the major 3 and assistance exercises i like to do high sets, low reps, heavy weight

[LTb1ow]

Ok, I will tack on a few more sets. Cool.

[madness410]

what are your goals matt

[LTb1ow]

More weight to be lifted. Not much else.