Lifting PRs!

[madness410]

do less reps with more weight

[LTb1ow]

I am going to stick with sets of 8. Seems like a good number.

See if I can do 8 x 8 today.

[madness410]

just sounds like ur not challenging ur muscles enough is all

[LTb1ow]

just sounds like ur not challenging ur muscles enough is all



Yea I hear ya...I have a hard time focusing I guess. But I added more sets today and it felt good so I think that should help. Don't have a scale though, need to bring one from home next time.

[LTb1ow]

http://www.metrx.com/shop/parent.aspx?parentID=10&catID=1&xs=693ee1c0f87341b588b37758a14c7d16


Coming up to an off cycle of SP250, been thinking of ditching the NO and just taking a creatine supp.


Thoughts?

[Squirrel]

http://www.metrx.com/shop/parent.aspx?parentID=10&catID=1&xs=693ee1c0f87341b588b37758a14c7d16


Coming up to an off cycle of SP250, been thinking of ditching the NO and just taking a creatine supp.


Thoughts?

eh...superdump and all NO stuff is overrated, unless you work 14 hours a day before going to the gym you shouldnt need any 'focusing'... pick up some green mag, sizeon, storm, etc if youre looking for a good creatine... or just good ole mono like i use

[madness410]

like i said on your facebook man...try going supp. free. i saw strength gains in EVERYTHING after i stopped everything completely...and still am. try all different type of things and see what works out for you. good thing about dropping the supps. is that its free :)

[WildBillyT]

http://www.metrx.com/shop/parent.aspx?parentID=10&catID=1&xs=693ee1c0f87341b588b37758a14c7d16


Coming up to an off cycle of SP250, been thinking of ditching the NO and just taking a creatine supp.


Thoughts?

Yup, that's what I use. Works great for me. Sucks because it isn't sold in a lot of places and is kind of an obscure product.

[LTb1ow]

Awesome day in the gym. There were a few other guys there so I was able to really push my self.

Only problem was the one guy was the kind that does bicep curls with like 15lbs and friggen grunts and then drops the weights like he is powerlifting... sigh..

So should I cycle a month with no supps what so ever? Does that mean no protein either?

[WildBillyT]

Awesome day in the gym. There were a few other guys there so I was able to really push my self.

Only problem was the one guy was the kind that does bicep curls with like 15lbs and friggen grunts and then drops the weights like he is powerlifting... sigh..

So should I cycle a month with no supps what so ever? Does that mean no protein either?

That's what I do. Just a multi. Although usually 2 weeks of it is no lifting either- to give my body a rest. But that's just once a quarter.

[LTb1ow]

Ok cool, I guess I will start that next week, I have one more day of SP250 left.

I take osteo bi flex in the morning, and a centrum performance at night.

Anything else I should be looking into?

[WildBillyT]

Ok cool, I guess I will start that next week, I have one more day of SP250 left.

I take osteo bi flex in the morning, and a centrum performance at night.

Anything else I should be looking into?

If you are ordering direct from Met-Rx, skip the Osteo bi flex and get their "Joint Guard". Trust me.

[LTb1ow]

Ok, I have a while till I go back onto supps, and I need to get my mailbox setup still... LOL.

But I will add it to the order.

Thanks Bill.

[LS1 4Good]

I have a friend that is HUGE 6'4" and 285lbs. He always told me to have a protein shake after I lift and to eat a full meal within an hour of drinking the shake! Worked very well when I was going to the gym on a daily basis. I am 5'8" and was 180lbs from about 125lbs. I slacked off a little and lost a few pounds lol. I'm getting back on track tho!

[LTb1ow]

I just stay the same weight, no matter how much I eat or what I eat.

Don't have a scale at school yet, but I am pretty sure I weigh 200lbs, + or - 5 lbs.

Doesn't matter how much I lift or how much protein I eat... LOL

[Tsar]

I just stay the same weight, no matter how much I eat or what I eat.

Don't have a scale at school yet, but I am pretty sure I weigh 200lbs, + or - 5 lbs.

Doesn't matter how much I lift or how much protein I eat... LOL
Get some weight gainer if you want more weight.

[madness410]

matt try adding more carbs to your meals. and having a good post workout meal is crucial.

[LTb1ow]

So how much and what should I be eating daily?

I have being keeping track of what I take in, and its not much...

Usually a power bar when I wake up, another before class, a sub after class, and then a shake before I sleep.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

If you wanna add strenght look into the late Mike Mentzers "Heavy Duty" training...back in my hayday I weighed 160-165 pds @ around 11% bodyfat and after only a mth or so of that training moved my max bench from 265 to 315 while still doing cardio and dropping bf. Its a little different but thats the whole idea to shock the muscles.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

So how much and what should I be eating daily?

I have being keeping track of what I take in, and its not much...

Usually a power bar when I wake up, another before class, a sub after class, and then a shake before I sleep.

Your eating the wrong food. Plus a power bar is not nearly enough food, you'll be hungry in a 1/2 hour. There also loaded w/ sugar and that speeds up your metab if your trying to pack some size on...The white flour w/ the sub isnt helping either...grab yourself a few tubawares and pack yourself some egg whites w/ either broccoli or spinach...Throw in some sweet pots., the fiber will keep you full. Change it up w/ some grilled chix. Pack enough to eat every 3 hrs. You can also sub in a few shakes to make it easier. Remember its 90% what you eat. Now if I could only pactice what I preach id be good :mrgreen:

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

I have a friend that is HUGE 6'4" and 285lbs. He always told me to have a protein shake after I lift and to eat a full meal within an hour of drinking the shake! Worked very well when I was going to the gym on a daily basis. !
Thats because its good info. The post workout shake should be atleast double the carbs to protein.

[WildBillyT]

Thats because its good info. The post workout shake should be atleast double the carbs to protein.

4 to 1 ratio is preffered

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

4 to 1 ratio is preffered

I said atleast double lol....

[WildBillyT]

I said atleast double lol....

Wasn't arguing. Just offering up the optimal number.

[LTb1ow]

So what should I be eating?

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

So what should I be eating?

Stay away from sugar(its ok to take some in after you train though), pasta, white bread(or any for that matter).

Eat: Brown/ Wild Rice, Frozen or Fresh veggies, any lean protein (Fish,lean beef, Poultry), Sweet Pot. instead of Baked. Egg Whites w/ a yoke or 2. Protein Shakes are good but theres no substitute for whole food...Breakfast should be your largest meal. Take about 5 grams of creatine in before you lift...No need for a multi you get more then enough Vitamins through your diet. Always eat a complete meal...but especially make sure it always has protein in it. 99% of those protien bars are loaded w/ sugar, back in the day i did like the pure protein bars I believe from worldwide. Like posted above try to have your post workout shake within a 1/2 window of training( try for the 4/1 like wildbillyt said) and like LS1 4Good said eat a full meal about an hour after your post workout shake. If you need anymore advice just pm me. I worked at Ultimate Fitness in Ocean for about 5 years and IFBB professional Rich Gaspari was my personal trainer and dietician when I use to bodybuild back in the day so i have a good bit of knowledge.

[LTb1ow]

I am gonna grab a lot of eggs and some chicken when I go home this weekend. I will look into getting some rice too.

As for creatine, still have not decided what I wanna do with that aspect of lifting.

[WildBillyT]

Stay away from sugar(its ok to take some in after you train though), pasta, white bread(or any for that matter).

Eat: Brown/ Wild Rice, Frozen or Fresh veggies, any lean protein (Fish,lean beef, Poultry), Sweet Pot. instead of Baked. Egg Whites w/ a yoke or 2. Protein Shakes are good but theres no substitute for whole food...Breakfast should be your largest meal. Take about 5 grams of creatine in before you lift...No need for a multi you get more then enough Vitamins through your diet. Always eat a complete meal...but especially make sure it always has protein in it. 99% of those protien bars are loaded w/ sugar, back in the day i did like the pure protein bars I believe from worldwide. Like posted above try to have your post workout shake within a 1/2 window of training( try for the 4/1 like wildbillyt said) and like LS1 4Good said eat a full meal about an hour after your post workout shake. If you need anymore advice just pm me. I worked at Ultimate Fitness in Ocean for about 5 years and IFBB professional Rich Gaspari was my personal trainer and dietician when I use to bodybuild back in the day so i have a good bit of knowledge.

Question:

Do you know [redacted]?

[LTb1ow]

Who is that?

[WildBillyT]

Who is that?

Guy I know who is/was close with Gaspari

[LTb1ow]

Ah ok.

What is your opinion on taking creatine Bill?

[madness410]

what and how you eat all depends on what your goals are.

[LTb1ow]

Just a good enough diet so I have good recovery. I honestly just enjoy going to the gym and working out, its a nice break from things.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Question:

Do you know [redacted]?

Yea I just did a search on him, looks like he competed in the 07 NPC...ive been outta the game for years so more then likely I dont know him...I was w/ rich in the early/mid 90's(when he tried to make his comeback).

[LTb1ow]

Ok, got myself a lot of eggs, brown rice, some plain chicken breast and a lot of broccoli. Need to get some milk tmmr though.

Trying to eat a hearty breakfast and then some scattered meals throughout the day.

Next question, been talking with my brother, and I can't decide on whether to get back on a SP250 cycle with sizeon, or take Met Rx Xtreme Creatine Blast RT.

Thoughts?

[madness410]

sounds like good food. i mean u dont need to go over the edge with the health food moreless just watch what you eat..

as for the supplements..did u try going without them yet? that blood test got me scared ****less and u know the supplements that just came out, who knows what problems they can bring 15-20 years down the road

[LTb1ow]

Yea, going on three weeks with nada. And you got a blood test while on cycle and after lifting.... granted I did too.. LOL but what did you expect?

[madness410]

yeah you are right..but still, i mean who knows what it can do later down the road

[Squirrel]

Ok, got myself a lot of eggs, brown rice, some plain chicken breast and a lot of broccoli. Need to get some milk tmmr though.

Trying to eat a hearty breakfast and then some scattered meals throughout the day.

Next question, been talking with my brother, and I can't decide on whether to get back on a SP250 cycle with sizeon, or take Met Rx Xtreme Creatine Blast RT.

Thoughts?

Dude, not to sound like a dick, but what brand of creatine doesnt make that much of a difference... just choose a price and flavor that fits you

[LTb1ow]

Well I was more curious about the differences between the two.

[Squirrel]

i'd go with the size on, size on has useful other ingredients in it, whereas the metrx is 5grams of creatine mono with a whole ****load of sugar

[WildBillyT]

Whatever works for you. I use the Met-Rx stuff because it was cheap enough and did the job.

[LTb1ow]

Sorry for the continued dumb here... but what is the big difference between size on and the metRx stuff?

There is a big price difference.

[WildBillyT]

Sorry for the continued dumb here... but what is the big difference between size on and the metRx stuff?

There is a big price difference.

Sizeon has a lot of proprietary **** in it. Met-Rx is creatine mono and dextrose.

[LTb1ow]

Ok, so the Met-Rx is a cleaner chemical? If that makes sense..

[Squirrel]

Ok, so the Met-Rx is a cleaner chemical? If that makes sense..

no.. the metrx is
this
http://bigdietcenter.com/images/Creatine%20Mono%20Powder.jpg
+ this
http://www.barryfarm.com/images/product/sugars/dextrose.JPG

[LTb1ow]

So I got some pre workout stuff, and will post up on how I like it when it gets here.

Any thoughts on stuff like jet fuel for cutting? Ron mentioned it to me, and I have been looking at it.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Cant go wrong w/ optimum nutrition supplements(ON)...Great quality and good price...leave u some bucks to get that boat anchor running right :nod:

[LTb1ow]

I got something from USPlabs and got it online, no more 50 doller SP250. LOL.

Hopefully it will be here by Friday.

[madness410]

50 dollar superpump? have i taught you nothing matt!? lol..dps nutrition..29.95 for the same size ur getting and 4.50 shipping.

[LTb1ow]

I did man, ordered my shiznit, should be here soon. 27 plus shipping.


Should be most excellent. :)

[LTb1ow]

http://www.nutraplanet.com/photos/13350/USPLabs_jacked2_large.jpg

Good shiznit.

Small serving size, mixes very well, tastes good, no superdumpage. Win.

[madness410]

try supplement free man im tellin u

[LTb1ow]

I did for a month and a half, while cool and all... eh.

[WildBillyT]

I did for a month and a half, while cool and all... eh.

You said that it was straight mono. It ain't.

[Tsar]

Ive been sup free for a while, I've been getting stronger :nod:

Well I don't count whey as a sup... :lol:

[LTb1ow]

You said that it was straight mono. It ain't.

I said it was a pre workout with creatine mono.

[HeadlessNorseman]

Ive been sup free for a while, I've been getting stronger :nod:

Well I don't count whey as a sup... :lol:

yeah i tried creatine, black power, some other stuff. I hate it! a good diet and whey protein and gatorade poweder works well for me

[LTb1ow]

yeah i tried creatine, black power, some other stuff. I hate it! a good diet and whey protein and gatorade poweder works well for me

Go mai tai.

I am a fan on this new stuff. Seems to work well, no side effects and it take like the three huge scoops of SP250/NOexplod etc.

[WildBillyT]

Go mai tai.

I am a fan on this new stuff. Seems to work well, no side effects and it take like the three huge scoops of SP250/NOexplod etc.

You were taking the max dose of SP?

[LTb1ow]

No, I was at 2 scoops.

But the new stuff is I guess a concentrate, so the scoop is like a tablespoon versus like a 1/3 cup ... lol