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LTb1ow
02-16-2009, 02:42 PM
Woot!

Added more reps to every exercise and bumped my bench weight to 220. Slowly working back up to 280.

Very good day for me to say the least. :nod:

And can anyone recommend a good set of gloves to wear so my hands don't get all calloused? I guess also for grip, the bar gets slippery.

WildBillyT
02-16-2009, 03:09 PM
Yeah. Valeo competition gloves with no padding. I go through a set every 6 months but they are like a second skin- no extra padding to F with your grip.

z28rob18
02-16-2009, 03:30 PM
last week i really got back into it myself everyday im takin in the 4k calories of good food and all my weight went up. my leg press is back up to 680lbs all my excersises are back up.

NJSPEEDER
02-16-2009, 04:39 PM
Woot!

Added more reps to every exercise and bumped my bench weight to 220. Slowly working back up to 280.

Very good day for me to say the least. :nod:

And can anyone recommend a good set of gloves to wear so my hands don't get all calloused? I guess also for grip, the bar gets slippery.

How is the running coming along? Remember, last one to the line is buying the beer ;)

LTb1ow
02-16-2009, 05:53 PM
I have been running at least 2 miles every other day. Its tough cause I don't work my legs. lol I am all topsided.

sweetbmxrider
02-16-2009, 08:45 PM
why oh why don't people work out the legs? its simple and your quads are the strongest muscle group. not that being bulky-big helps you run.

LTb1ow
02-16-2009, 09:44 PM
I just don't have the equipment is what it comes down too. :(

WildBillyT
02-16-2009, 09:57 PM
why oh why don't people work out the legs? its simple and your quads are the strongest muscle group. not that being bulky-big helps you run.

Building up your legs requires a lot more work then upper body.

LTb1ow
02-16-2009, 10:11 PM
If I had the thing to do squats with I would use it but as of now, I am stuck with running.

madness410
02-16-2009, 11:37 PM
If I had the thing to do squats with I would use it but as of now, I am stuck with running.

what kind of equipment do you need? i know a few good excersizes that could work your legs with dumbells, but they would have to be heavy lol.

congrats on your personal record, always good to see people getting in shape..your well being is priceless

madness410
02-16-2009, 11:40 PM
oh and as for gloves...i just go into sports authority / ebay and buy a pair of harbinger gloves, they are cheap and havent been giving me problems...

but i may test out the ones bill was talking about earlier, i started deadlifting more and my grip gets weird with heavy weight

ta350
02-17-2009, 05:57 AM
Woot!

Added more reps to every exercise and bumped my bench weight to 220. Slowly working back up to 280.

Very good day for me to say the least. :nod:

And can anyone recommend a good set of gloves to wear so my hands don't get all calloused? I guess also for grip, the bar gets slippery.


I don't recommend gloves just for the fact that they weaken your grip. When wearing them you'll have more but when your not wearing them you'll see that you have less. I suggest just go with out them and just build it up.... my 2 cents

MonmouthCtyAntz
02-17-2009, 07:00 AM
Man I havent benched heavy in years...most I ever did was 315 for 1 rep @ 165 pd. body weight. The good ol days:|

LTb1ow
02-17-2009, 08:35 AM
My weight is around 195, I drink a tad to much water to it fluctuates. But as for deadlifting or sqautting, I lift in my room, second story. I already probably have way to much weight to have safely in one room, and couple that with a potential of dropping weight would be bad news. How much do one of those "cages" for squatting go for?

WildBillyT
02-17-2009, 08:37 AM
I don't recommend gloves just for the fact that they weaken your grip. When wearing them you'll have more but when your not wearing them you'll see that you have less. I suggest just go with out them and just build it up.... my 2 cents

I've had the exact opposite experience. When I wear gloves my grip suffers. When I lift with my bare hands my grip is much better. That's why I use those Valeo gloves that are pretty thin. If I use a glove with a lot of padding I can't hold the bar towards the end of my deadlift sets.

LTb1ow
02-17-2009, 08:47 AM
Yea at the moment, I have my bench bar wrapped with some tape and I use flour on my hands..... don't laugh, works decently.

WildBillyT
02-17-2009, 08:48 AM
Yea at the moment, I have my bench bar wrapped with some tape and I use flour on my hands..... don't laugh, works decently.

I use baby powder. Cheapest stuff I can find. Sometimes it smells like lavender.

LTb1ow
02-17-2009, 08:57 AM
Another downside to using a standard size bar :(

NJSPEEDER
02-17-2009, 10:46 AM
Building up your legs requires a lot more work then upper body.

But it requires much less effort. Just go to the store and get a set of 5lbs ankle weights to wear around the house.

Building big power would require special equipment, but most of what you need to do to have strong, defined legs can be done with simple ankle weights.

KirkEvil
02-17-2009, 10:54 AM
If I had the thing to do squats with I would use it but as of now, I am stuck with running.

There is plenty of dead weight sitting in your garage. push the LT1 up and down the driveway

LTb1ow
02-17-2009, 11:00 AM
I could do that, cept the oil leak would make it hard to get a good footing.

madness410
02-17-2009, 12:05 PM
My weight is around 195, I drink a tad to much water to it fluctuates. But as for deadlifting or sqautting, I lift in my room, second story. I already probably have way to much weight to have safely in one room, and couple that with a potential of dropping weight would be bad news. How much do one of those "cages" for squatting go for?

a power rack you mean? not too expensive...it's the bar and plates that get pricey. I found a good deal at the sports authority but it's made in china and feels really cheap. but it gets the job done well. if u get one of those u can get a bench that inclines/declines and use the power rack as a benchpress also.

madness410
02-17-2009, 12:07 PM
oh another thing...if you want strength go for lower reps with more weight. muscles grow better when they are challeneged constantly. I started doing that deadlifting and the past month I noticed drastic improvements.

LTb1ow
02-17-2009, 02:00 PM
I just change speed and how many reps I do but I set a minimum for each exercise.

z28rob18
02-17-2009, 03:15 PM
listenin to you guys talk makes me feel real fortunate. i have EVERYTHING for liftin in my house we hav a weight roome with everything. tons of plates for the leg press and squat rack and a huge dumbell rack.

LTb1ow
02-17-2009, 03:16 PM
I have a bench, punching bag, and crazy contraption for dips/pullups/leg lifts.

madness410
02-17-2009, 03:58 PM
I have a bench, punching bag, and crazy contraption for dips/pullups/leg lifts.

i have the same stuff. you ever think about joining a gym though? the atmosphere is a lot better i think..

LTb1ow
02-17-2009, 04:31 PM
No time or money really, and I don't like people.

Anti_Rice_Guy
02-17-2009, 05:27 PM
No time or moneyreally, and I don't like people.

Liar. You have millions of posts :moon:

Featherburner
02-17-2009, 05:29 PM
Liar. You have millions of posts :moon:Why do you think he has no time?

Anti_Rice_Guy
02-17-2009, 06:16 PM
Why do you think he has no time?

:rofl:

LTb1ow
02-17-2009, 06:19 PM
Der!

No, I can post all the time cause what else is there to do during class?

Anti_Rice_Guy
02-17-2009, 06:37 PM
Der!

No, I can post all the time cause what else is there to do during class?

Are you in class like....all day every day? :lol:

LTb1ow
02-17-2009, 06:42 PM
Kinda sorta. And or at school sitting in a lab. I commute to community college.

jims69camaro
02-19-2009, 08:26 PM
Slowly working back up to 280.

And can anyone recommend a good set of gloves

muscle has a memory. you'll get there a lot quicker than it took you the first time.

i use weider padded. they are only slightly padded, and only where the callous grows. get gloves that fit, too, so you aren't cutting off the circulation to your fingers and not so loose that they wiggle around on your hand.

WildBillyT
02-19-2009, 08:36 PM
muscle has a memory. you'll get there a lot quicker than it took you the first time.

i use weider padded. they are only slightly padded, and only where the callous grows. get gloves that fit, too, so you aren't cutting off the circulation to your fingers and not so loose that they wiggle around on your hand.

Absolutely. I've had to take the past 2 months off (!) to take a rest and let my body repair itself. Just like the other times, I am sure it will come back quick.

LTb1ow
02-19-2009, 08:45 PM
I hope so, I managed to tweak something in my chest so I dropped a lot of weight off and worked the reps slow and really focusing on form. Seemed to have worked, I am slowly working back up to where I was, doing more reps and so far no pain at all.

NJSPEEDER
02-19-2009, 09:40 PM
SSSSOoooooooo what you are saying is that you pulled a breastage and now you can't milk properly? lol

Remember that the last one to the finish line buys the beer buddy :p

LTb1ow
02-19-2009, 09:42 PM
I will just pick one of you guys up and toss you! Aha!

madness410
02-19-2009, 10:42 PM
Absolutely. I've had to take the past 2 months off (!) to take a rest and let my body repair itself. Just like the other times, I am sure it will come back quick.

wow..thats crazy..2 months? isnt that long? i remember i was sick for a week and a half and took off lifting that entire time and my body felt like i havent lifted in a few months. you didnt injure anything did you?

WildBillyT
02-20-2009, 06:48 PM
wow..thats crazy..2 months? isnt that long? i remember i was sick for a week and a half and took off lifting that entire time and my body felt like i havent lifted in a few months. you didnt injure anything did you?

Could be- but I wanted to give my joints a long time to heal. If you do a PL routine it can damage your body permanently if you aren't careful. Plus I have to go for a physical next week and I want to get all the supps out before the blood test.

madness410
02-20-2009, 09:39 PM
Could be- but I wanted to give my joints a long time to heal. If you do a PL routine it can damage your body permanently if you aren't careful. Plus I have to go for a physical next week and I want to get all the supps out before the blood test.

arrite man i see. dam you must feel disgusting haha...if i dont make it out to the gym for like 3-4 days my entire body feels like jello. did you lose any of your results?

LTb1ow
02-20-2009, 09:40 PM
arrite man i see. dam you must feel disgusting haha...if i dont make it out to the gym for like 3-4 days my entire body feels like jello. did you lose any of your results?

I feel the same way when I don't get to lift a day or two. I am an addict. :lol:

madness410
02-20-2009, 09:50 PM
I feel the same way when I don't get to lift a day or two. I am an addict. :lol:

haha yeah man...just dont overdo it, dont want to hurt yourself..i know a kid who did that. but a week off really makes a difference and let all my muscles recover. the next week i had some of the best workouts.

LTb1ow
02-20-2009, 09:51 PM
Eh, if I take a while off I get really crazy, lifting calms me down.

WildBillyT
02-21-2009, 04:10 PM
arrite man i see. dam you must feel disgusting haha...if i dont make it out to the gym for like 3-4 days my entire body feels like jello. did you lose any of your results?

Let me put it to you this way. I lost 22 lbs. When I look in the mirror I can tell some of it was fat- but not all. I fight to gain weight, not lose it.

madness410
02-21-2009, 05:13 PM
Let me put it to you this way. I lost 22 lbs. When I look in the mirror I can tell some of it was fat- but not all. I fight to gain weight, not lose it.

wow haha thats crazy...your diet must be really clean

IROCZman15
02-23-2009, 03:26 AM
why complain abt callouses?... shows u work out...

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 08:08 AM
Significant other does not like em.

Anti_Rice_Guy
02-23-2009, 09:28 AM
Significant other does not like em.

Tell him tough. :mrgreen:

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 09:31 AM
Such a funny guy.

Anti_Rice_Guy
02-23-2009, 10:25 AM
It comes naturally.

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 10:47 AM
I will break you.



lol ;)

2RARE84s
02-23-2009, 11:06 AM
Added more reps to every exercise and bumped my bench weight to 220. Slowly working back up to 280.


That's pretty good, keep it up!

I just started going back to the gym 3 weeks ago, after not lifting anything for 3 years... At my best I was benching 330 and weighed 158. I was 5.9% body fat. But after not lifting for 3 years, It will be tough to get back to that :(

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 11:09 AM
Danke!

Been able to get comfortable with the new weight so maybe next week I can bump it up a tad more.

2RARE84s
02-23-2009, 11:41 AM
Danke!

Been able to get comfortable with the new weight so maybe next week I can bump it up a tad more.

I assume you lift alone? so no spotter? If that is the case it will take a lot longer to get where you want to go, because you wont be able to safely push yourself past your comfort zone.

WildBillyT
02-23-2009, 11:41 AM
I assume you lift alone? so no spotter? If that is the case it will take a lot longer to get where you want to go, because you wont be able to safely push yourself past your comfort zone.

X2. It sucks but you have to be safe.

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 11:44 AM
Yea I know, the first few times I had my dad spot me but between his work schedule and my classes its tough. Sometimes I split a rep into two sets of 5 versus one set of ten to be on the safer side.

2RARE84s
02-23-2009, 11:53 AM
Maybe you should try to recruit a buddy to lift with.

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 11:59 AM
Eh, I am not a fan of people for the most part.
lol and most of the people I know don't lift.

98tadriver
02-23-2009, 12:05 PM
My weight is around 195, I drink a tad to much water to it fluctuates. But as for deadlifting or sqautting, I lift in my room, second story. I already probably have way to much weight to have safely in one room, and couple that with a potential of dropping weight would be bad news. How much do one of those "cages" for squatting go for?

or u could buy a squat rack lol

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 12:09 PM
I coulddd.

WildBillyT
02-23-2009, 12:14 PM
or u could buy a squat rack lol

Still not always safe. If you are between pegs on the uprights you can be in trouble.

98tadriver
02-23-2009, 12:22 PM
what if u set the rack low?

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 01:07 PM
And its more of me having way to much weight on the second floor. If I got a squat rack I would want a lot more weight and maybe a new bar.

z28rob18
02-23-2009, 01:21 PM
And its more of me having way to much weight on the second floor. If I got a squat rack I would want a lot more weight and maybe a new bar.

all of our weights are on the 2nd floor probably over 3000lbs of weights and equipment. i got a new best on the leg press last week put up 750lbs 5x ima try 800 this week

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 01:23 PM
Ok well let me re phrase that, there is a very expensive pool table under my room and my mom would slay me, and skin me if something were to happen to it. ;)

z28rob18
02-23-2009, 01:31 PM
our kitchen is uner ours lol so we'll hav some problems if the floor gives lol. but my dad build the upstairs so hes pretty confident in it.

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 01:32 PM
Yea, I am just wary of bringing more weight upstairs at the moment. And then my room would be really cluttered.

jims69camaro
02-23-2009, 04:33 PM
I assume you lift alone? so no spotter? If that is the case it will take a lot longer to get where you want to go, because you wont be able to safely push yourself past your comfort zone.

when i was lifting alone, i rigged up a couple of cables to hold the bar 1/2" below where it hit me in the chest. then in an emergency i could just drop the weight on my chest and wiggle out from underneath it. it happened more than once. then i joined a gym and realized that working out didn't have to be so dangerous... :mrgreen:

whenever coming back to the gym after a layoff, it's important to retrain the muscles proper form again. and you can't expect to work out with the same weight after 2 years off, but two weeks off it might be possible.

also, remember that the muscle grows when it's resting, not when it's being exerted. so decent rest every night is as important as proper form. and listening to your body will help you avoid over-training. usually one to three weeks off per year are enough to heal the muscles properly and give yourself a chance to grow a little bit, too.

2RARE84s
02-23-2009, 08:28 PM
whenever coming back to the gym after a layoff, it's important to retrain the muscles proper form again. and you can't expect to work out with the same weight after 2 years off, but two weeks off it might be possible.

also, remember that the muscle grows when it's resting, not when it's being exerted. so decent rest every night is as important as proper form. and listening to your body will help you avoid over-training. usually one to three weeks off per year are enough to heal the muscles properly and give yourself a chance to grow a little bit, too.

Yeah, I was pretty into lifting and also took the Personal Trainer course, so I know a lot about it. I just didn't have time, or motivation to make time after I got out of the Army a while back. But now I have a "project" (my wife's cousin) so I am going to the gym with him and trying to make him HUGE.. lol

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 08:31 PM
Quick question for the guys that take super pump or similar stuff, is it wise to take an advil later that day? I am just wary of mixing chemicals...

WildBillyT
02-23-2009, 08:37 PM
Quick question for the guys that take super pump or similar stuff, is it wise to take an advil later that day? I am just wary of mixing chemicals...

Try to avoid taking painkillers. Not only do they mask important pain, they can limit muscle growth throught their method of action.

No pills, no caffiene when you are on the C.

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 08:39 PM
Ah well, I tweaked my chest I think, dunno it may just be sore. Nothing sharp and I still have full range of motion.

FIcamaroRE92
02-23-2009, 08:41 PM
Quick question for the guys that take super pump or similar stuff, is it wise to take an advil later that day? I am just wary of mixing chemicals...

I wouldnt. then again iam no chemist. :rofl:


to the Recovery topic: How long do you guys let a certain muscle group recover before you work out again. I usually do 4 or so days....

2RARE84s
02-23-2009, 08:42 PM
put some heat on it. that, and rest is about all you can do.

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 08:43 PM
I lift every other day, no problems really till now, but I pushed myself to far today. Lifting pissed off is a bad idea.

WildBillyT
02-23-2009, 08:45 PM
I wouldnt. then again iam no chemist. :rofl:


to the Recovery topic: How long do you guys let a certain muscle group recover before you work out again. I usually do 4 or so days....

Depends. On the power routine, I take every other day off. The days I'm on it's the same big muscle groups. On the stamina routine, I take two days off in between groups.

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 08:48 PM
Is may just be me, but when I am on an off day, I feel puny and then when I lift I feel much bigger. Mental?

2RARE84s
02-23-2009, 08:51 PM
Mental?

Not all mental, but there is that factor in there.

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 08:52 PM
How does one get bulky? I seem to be stuck at a certain weight, I can add on weight to my exercises but I don't seem to be getting bigger.

FIcamaroRE92
02-23-2009, 08:55 PM
How does one get bulky? I seem to be stuck at a certain weight, I can add on weight to my exercises but I don't seem to be getting bigger.

lots of weight, less reps. 5-8

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 08:56 PM
Hm, should I be trying to do more of a pyramid styled workout?

FIcamaroRE92
02-23-2009, 09:00 PM
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/wotw95.htm
Read

WildBillyT
02-23-2009, 09:01 PM
How does one get bulky? I seem to be stuck at a certain weight, I can add on weight to my exercises but I don't seem to be getting bigger.

Food?

2RARE84s
02-23-2009, 09:01 PM
Hm, should I be trying to do more of a pyramid styled workout?

Yes. But the pyramid should be going down. When I was lifting for size/weight, I would do 4-6 reps. But starting with a warm up weight, then going to the heaviest weight you could lift for 4-6. Then when you can't do 4, drop 5lbs and do it again. The problem is that this type of workout should be done with a spotter..

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 09:02 PM
Food?

LOL, really?

:rofl:

I eat a lot I think, so I have that covered.

FIcamaroRE92
02-23-2009, 09:05 PM
Yes. But the pyramid should be going down. When I was lifting for size/weight, I would do 4-6 reps. But starting with a warm up weight, then going to the heaviest weight you could lift for 4-6. Then when you can't do 4, drop 5lbs and do it again. The problem is that this type of workout should be done with a spotter..

x2 I always thought it was 5-8 reps, or is that personal preference?

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 09:06 PM
Yes. But the pyramid should be going down. When I was lifting for size/weight, I would do 4-6 reps. But starting with a warm up weight, then going to the heaviest weight you could lift for 4-6. Then when you can't do 4, drop 5lbs and do it again. The problem is that this type of workout should be done with a spotter..

Another downside to lifting alone. :-?

FIcamaroRE92
02-23-2009, 09:13 PM
Another downside to lifting alone. :-?

off question but whats your favorite or best muscle group to work with?

For me its my delts/traps

LTb1ow
02-23-2009, 10:43 PM
I really like working my triceps, I dunno.

2RARE84s
02-24-2009, 06:58 AM
x2 I always thought it was 5-8 reps, or is that personal preference?

Everyone's body is different. So if 5-8 works for you, then go with it. I just saw more gains with 4-6 so I stuck with it.

z28rob18
02-24-2009, 07:25 AM
LOL, really?

:rofl:

I eat a lot I think, so I have that covered.

im lik you weights go up alot but my weight doesnt. but i thought i ate alot before until now. i try and eat between 3500-4000 calories a day. of good food of course. but if you do that you should be eating something about every hour and you will not be hungry. after a week of eating lik this i noticed i got a little bigger. but eat lik that work your ass off and youll start gaining. i also take creatine and use the weight gainer called cytogainer

WildBillyT
02-24-2009, 08:05 AM
off question but whats your favorite or best muscle group to work with?

For me its my delts/traps

Quads. They get worked 3 days a week usually.

z28rob18
02-24-2009, 08:07 AM
Quads. They get worked 3 days a week usually.

quads and hamstrings love workin them! makes me feel big lol

LTb1ow
02-24-2009, 09:42 AM
No chest soreness today, so I guess I may have cheated a little yesterday and bounced the bar off a rib. Oops.

FIcamaroRE92
02-24-2009, 09:46 PM
No chest soreness today, so I guess I may have cheated a little yesterday and bounced the bar off a rib. Oops.

thats almost as bad as actually doing a "nose breaker" lol

LTb1ow
03-02-2009, 02:05 PM
Another question for the guys that lift. I just did my full workout with out a spotter for bench, and I feel pretty comfortable with the weight. How long should I wait before adding some more weight and what should I increase by?

WildBillyT
03-02-2009, 02:11 PM
Another question for the guys that lift. I just did my full workout with out a spotter for bench, and I feel pretty comfortable with the weight. How long should I wait before adding some more weight and what should I increase by?

If you are comfortable, do it now, and increase by 2.5% if you are under 250lbs.

DevilDougWS6
03-02-2009, 06:59 PM
just benched for the first time in.....4 years. haha, i put up 140 lbs 10 times for 3 sets. i know it sucks but i want to get back up there. i was benching a little over 180 in highschool, but then i stopped lifting weights and do a lot more cardio now. i was also 140 lbs in highschool, now im 170, haha.

what are some good foods with high calories that i can eat everyday? the diet is the hardest part for me, because i eat anything and everything.

madness410
03-02-2009, 08:14 PM
just benched for the first time in.....4 years. haha, i put up 140 lbs 10 times for 3 sets. i know it sucks but i want to get back up there. i was benching a little over 180 in highschool, but then i stopped lifting weights and do a lot more cardio now. i was also 140 lbs in highschool, now im 170, haha.

what are some good foods with high calories that i can eat everyday? the diet is the hardest part for me, because i eat anything and everything.

yeah dieting is very important..i would say it makes up for 60% of results. my personal trainer friend was on a bulking diet a few weeks ago, he had 80 carbs a meal, 5 meals a day, 3 hours apart. as long as they arent carbs from sugar i think you should be good.

madness410
03-02-2009, 08:15 PM
Is may just be me, but when I am on an off day, I feel puny and then when I lift I feel much bigger. Mental?

haha you should thank god you have that feeling...that feeling is what makes me go back to the gym as much as i can

madness410
03-02-2009, 08:17 PM
off question but whats your favorite or best muscle group to work with?

For me its my delts/traps

hamstrings...i love doing deadlifts. also i love bench pressing, and doing dips, either on a power tower, or parallel dips with a plate on my quads.

FIcamaroRE92
03-02-2009, 09:13 PM
hamstrings...i love doing deadlifts. also i love bench pressing, and doing dips, either on a power tower, or parallel dips with a plate on my quads.

I Aslo like doing Austrailan Pullups!

madness410
03-02-2009, 11:09 PM
I Aslo like doing Austrailan Pullups!

????what are those

DevilDougWS6
03-02-2009, 11:12 PM
its like an upside down pushup.

WildBillyT
03-03-2009, 07:52 AM
haha you should thank god you have that feeling...that feeling is what makes me go back to the gym as much as i can

Agreed. I feel like a little bitch when I haven't worked out for a while. Yesterday was my first day back. My best guess is that I'm at 70% of where I used to be. Also I can barely move this morning. I'm sure it will come back fast. Or at least I f'n hope so!

LTb1ow
03-03-2009, 07:58 AM
Old people!

lol, I like not feeling beat up every morning after I lift. ;)

Tsar
03-03-2009, 08:04 AM
Squats used to be my favorite exercise. I dunno what it is now.

WildBillyT
03-03-2009, 08:04 AM
Old people!

lol, I like not feeling beat up every morning after I lift. ;)

I usually don't. It's coming back after a long break that kills me.

LTb1ow
03-03-2009, 08:07 AM
Yea I hear you on that, my elbows started to hurt a little the past few days. I read that there is no proof that the stuff for joint repair actually works?

WildBillyT
03-03-2009, 09:46 AM
Yea I hear you on that, my elbows started to hurt a little the past few days. I read that there is no proof that the stuff for joint repair actually works?

Probably not. But Met-Rx's stuff seemed to work for me.

cdacda13
03-26-2009, 09:55 PM
Bump!

New Bench Press PR for me, 315.

And how is everyone elses progress?

LTb1ow
03-26-2009, 09:57 PM
I added weight to all my exercises, and started to add more reps to em. Superpump has officially stopped working for me. :(

cdacda13
03-26-2009, 09:59 PM
Shownomercy, You know you have to cycle that right?

LTb1ow
03-26-2009, 10:00 PM
Hahah yea..... about that...

cdacda13
03-26-2009, 10:06 PM
I'm no genius but I think I found the problem.

Take some time off of it and try again in a month or so.

LTb1ow
03-26-2009, 10:09 PM
I know, I am an addict.

I should start stacking it and or switch back to NOxplode or similar.

madness410
03-27-2009, 12:15 AM
I know, I am an addict.

I should start stacking it and or switch back to NOxplode or similar.

eh i hear its good to take a break off n.o. for like 4 weeks after it wears off...to cleanse your system or something. once u start back up its like uve never used it before. i currently am on a break from n.o xplode and my workouts feel like crap.

cdacda your max is 315 benching?

FIcamaroRE92
03-27-2009, 06:34 AM
eh i hear its good to take a break off n.o. for like 4 weeks after it wears off...to cleanse your system or something. once u start back up its like uve never used it before. i currently am on a break from n.o xplode and my workouts feel like crap.

cdacda your max is 315 benching?

true

madness410
03-27-2009, 07:54 AM
true

pete did you try black powder yet?

cdacda13
03-27-2009, 10:07 AM
cdacda your max is 315 benching?

Yea.

LTb1ow
03-27-2009, 10:12 AM
I feel puny now. :(

I need to start taking creatine and find a lifting partner.

Tsar
03-27-2009, 11:46 AM
Yea.
How much do you weigh?

Ian
03-27-2009, 03:23 PM
Bump!

New Bench Press PR for me, 315.

And how is everyone elses progress?

jesus! :shock:

back when I used to bench, I would do about half of that :rofl:

madness410
03-27-2009, 03:29 PM
jesus! :shock:

back when I used to bench, I would do about half of that :rofl:

thats why tsar asked how much he weighed lol..his weight depends if its good or not. a 315 pound guy benching 315 is nothing lol. a 160 pound guy benching 315 is pretty strong

LTb1ow
03-27-2009, 03:32 PM
I am about a 100 pounds short but thats my workout weight, can't max out :(

madness410
03-27-2009, 03:35 PM
wait what..? lol

LTb1ow
03-27-2009, 03:36 PM
I use 225 for bench, and use that for all my sets. Can't max out cause I lift alone.

Tsar
03-27-2009, 03:47 PM
I use 225 for bench, and use that for all my sets. Can't max out cause I lift alone.

AH, I'm in the same boat. I have to get extremely comfortable with the weight before I throw on some more on there, due to no spotter. I'm slowly creeping up to my 275 mark though. Only ten pounds away :lol:

LTb1ow
03-27-2009, 03:49 PM
Yups, its a slow road for me too. I usually try to throw on a big jump for a day when I can get a spotter and use that to mix things up.

madness410
03-27-2009, 08:15 PM
tsar and snm how much do u guys weigh

Tsar
03-27-2009, 08:39 PM
185

madness410
03-27-2009, 08:44 PM
185

sweet thats pretty good...you are looking for your max to be 275 or to set 275?

Tsar
03-27-2009, 08:46 PM
I dont really do max, I'm scared to drop it on my throat :lol: Once I get used to 265, i'll just start doing sets with 275, and so on. It's just a slow progress...

madness410
03-27-2009, 08:48 PM
I dont really do max, I'm scared to drop it on my throat :lol: Once I get used to 265, i'll just start doing sets with 275, and so on. It's just a slow progress...

thats pretty good for your weight man. whats your routine for chest?..if u dont mind me asking. and are you taking any supplements?

Tsar
03-27-2009, 09:08 PM
thats pretty good for your weight man. whats your routine for chest?..if u dont mind me asking. and are you taking any supplements?

Ahh the question I never have a good answer for :lol: My "routine" blows donkey dick! I'm a firm believer that most of my gains come from my stellar diet. for the most part I never cared what food tasted like, unless I'm eating out. So I can eat plain boring chicken breast for god knows how long. But diet is not what you asked me about :lol:

On to the ****** routine...
My chest routine consists of:

4 sets of bench, 3rd being the hardest, and 4th being 135 pounds go until I cant lift it with a perfect form anymore.
Incline DB press.
Chest press machine thingy.
Followed tri exercises.

Told you it was ******. I have a friend who majors in Exercise science and he was supposed to make me a "great" routine but he is still working on it. I do not have enough imagination to make one myself. Plus Chest/tri is my least favorite day so I ever really cared for it.

As far as supplements: Right now I only take ON Whey + Vitamins, that's all. I really try to take most of the stuff that my body needs through my normal food intake. Chicken, Fish, and Steak are my friends :nod:


Ok if anyone wants to make me a good routine, I'll give it a shot :lol:

madness410
03-27-2009, 09:22 PM
dam thats a pretty good routine, i think lifting till failure probably helps you out too, i have to try that. as for diet, im the same way, i dont care what food tastes like.

have you ever thought about lifting chest with bi, and back with triceps? i tried doing it and i got better tri / bi workouts, reason why is when you work your chest you also work your tri so when you get to your tri excersizes after working chest, they are already pre-fatigued, while your biceps are fresh. and vice versa. you work out other muscle groups the rest of the week right?

FIcamaroRE92
03-27-2009, 09:28 PM
dam thats a pretty good routine, i think lifting till failure probably helps you out too, i have to try that. as for diet, im the same way, i dont care what food tastes like.

have you ever thought about lifting chest with bi, and back with triceps? i tried doing it and i got better tri / bi workouts, reason why is when you work your chest you also work your tri so when you get to your tri excersizes after working chest, they are already pre-fatigued, while your biceps are fresh. and vice versa. you work out other muscle groups the rest of the week right?

thats exactly what I do

Tsar
03-27-2009, 09:32 PM
dam thats a pretty good routine, i think lifting till failure probably helps you out too, i have to try that. as for diet, im the same way, i dont care what food tastes like.

have you ever thought about lifting chest with bi, and back with triceps? i tried doing it and i got better tri / bi workouts, reason why is when you work your chest you also work your tri so when you get to your tri excersizes after working chest, they are already pre-fatigued, while your biceps are fresh. and vice versa. you work out other muscle groups the rest of the week right?

Well I think an "ehh" routine. :lol: Also I do not lift to failure, I just lift until my form starts to suffer on the bench. Wouldn't want to get crushed by those 135 pounds :rofl: ( I have dropped it on my chest accidentally, it was not pleasant.)

Yea the rest of the week I do, legs, back/bi, and usually I have my triathlon day someplace there. Although I try to go for a run or bike after each workout, time permissible. Triathlon day consists of running (10min), biking (20ish) and rowing (til I wanna puke :lol:)



Edit* If i know I wont get to the gym for at least two days then I do full body work outs before i leave, which are actually out of the "New High Intensity Training" book. I love their routines. So sometimes there is structure in my workouts.

madness410
03-27-2009, 10:17 PM
Well I think an "ehh" routine. :lol: Also I do not lift to failure, I just lift until my form starts to suffer on the bench. Wouldn't want to get crushed by those 135 pounds :rofl: ( I have dropped it on my chest accidentally, it was not pleasant.)

Yea the rest of the week I do, legs, back/bi, and usually I have my triathlon day someplace there. Although I try to go for a run or bike after each workout, time permissible. Triathlon day consists of running (10min), biking (20ish) and rowing (til I wanna puke :lol:)



Edit* If i know I wont get to the gym for at least two days then I do full body work outs before i leave, which are actually out of the "New High Intensity Training" book. I love their routines. So sometimes there is structure in my workouts.

yeah man sounds like you are on point. i might do your routine my next chest day

Tsar
03-27-2009, 10:28 PM
yeah man sounds like you are on point. i might do your routine my next chest day
It won't be anything groundbreaking, I promise :lol:

LTb1ow
03-27-2009, 11:56 PM
Lifting day tmmr!

Woot, heavy breakfast of eggs and then liftttttiiinnngggg. :)

madness410
03-28-2009, 12:18 AM
Lifting day tmmr!

Woot, heavy breakfast of eggs and then liftttttiiinnngggg. :)

no carbs?

cdacda13
03-28-2009, 01:23 AM
How much do you weigh?
Way to ruin my fun.

265. 315 is Not that impressive for a guy my size.
But, I am only 19, so its not bad.

Tsar
03-28-2009, 08:02 AM
Way to ruin my fun.

265. 315 is Not that impressive for a guy my size.
But, I am only 19, so its not bad.
Ultimately you can still bench press more than I can.

Does that make you feel better? :lol:

LTb1ow
03-28-2009, 08:43 AM
Ha! I weigh 196 ish and bench 225, does that mean I am cooler? lol ;)

And why carbs for breakfast?

madness410
03-28-2009, 10:13 AM
Ha! I weigh 196 ish and bench 225, does that mean I am cooler? lol ;)

And why carbs for breakfast?

im 205 i can do probably 2.5 really clean sets of 245. people say carbs are bad but those are carbs from sugar and bad stuff. good carbs get stored as energy your body uses when you lift. they are also good post workout.

but i mean dont eat and then go right out and lift lol...give it about an hour to digest.

LTb1ow
03-28-2009, 10:15 AM
I usually do a protein shake, hour of homework, and then superpump/lift.

madness410
03-28-2009, 10:16 AM
plus eating alot for breakfast boosts your metabolism

Tsar
03-28-2009, 10:16 AM
Damn, It seems like I'm the lightweight in this thread. :lol: Gone are the days when I used to be 220 pounds. Don't hurt me big burly men :rofl:

LTb1ow
03-28-2009, 10:17 AM
Ya, three to four eggs, and whatever meat I can find in the fridge thrown into the mix.

Tsar
03-28-2009, 10:17 AM
I usually do a protein shake, hour of homework, and then superpump/lift.
Holy cow that stuff gave me insomnia...I threw it out.

madness410
03-28-2009, 10:19 AM
wait tsar u used to be 220 pounds?...howd u lose it all?

LTb1ow
03-28-2009, 10:20 AM
Pretty much. It keeps me up till like 1am, which I don't mind, I get a lot of uninterrupted time for HW and studying.

madness410
03-28-2009, 10:20 AM
yeah and snm just make sure you also eat a good post workout meal, thats when your body needs the most nutrients..

i usually spike my insulin after a workout

LTb1ow
03-28-2009, 10:20 AM
wait tsar u used to be 220 pounds?...howd u lose it all?

Ironic, I am trying to get to that weight.... :rofl:

Tsar
03-28-2009, 10:37 AM
wait tsar u used to be 220 pounds?...howd u lose it all?

First I must say that I lose and gain weight super quick, almost effortlessly at time. Its a blessing and a curse.

The way I got down to 185 was simply by changing what I ate on daily basis and sticking to it. I used to go to the gym the same amount that I do now, but I did not watch what I would eat at all. I could eat few slices of pizza for breakfast, some pasta for lunch and go out for steak later on. This of course be combine with my normal workout ingestion of whey, or back then weight gainer.. I had abundance of calories going on. :lol:

One day I just didn't want to look like I did anymore. I didn't have a gut hanging over my belt but I new I had some extra weight on. So I decided to lose it.

Took me about a semester of eating clean, and lifting just as much as I was before, plus incorporating the "holy **** cardio day" that I talked about earlier. I got down to 190 by December, and later on to 180.

I hated being 180 pounds, didn't seem like a good number. Plus I was a lot weaker than I was at 220. So this semester I'm slowly gaining weight, but in good clean fashion. I got myself to be almost as strong as I was before, with the exception of leg strength. I miss that the most. Squats used to be my favorite exercise because I could put up 405 pounds on the bar and go to town with it. Now I struggle when I approach 300, its mentally disturbing... But I'll get there.

I did it for cosmetic reasons reason, I didn't like the look of uncut 220 lbs.. 185 is much, much better. My gf agrees :lol:

LTb1ow
03-28-2009, 10:39 AM
Yea, but for me, lifting for the "cut" look is stupid and guido like. I like being bulky but not fat. Its all personal preference I guess.

Tsar
03-28-2009, 10:39 AM
Damn, I write novels!

LTb1ow
03-28-2009, 10:40 AM
So who does military press with dumbells?

It makes me feel weak. :( lol

Tsar
03-28-2009, 10:41 AM
Yea, but for me, lifting for the "cut" look is stupid and guido like. I like being bulky but not fat. Its all personal preference I guess.
It is personal preference. I prefer it this way. Plus as I said, I'm almost as strong as I was before with the exception of legs. So the majority of my loss was fat, which is pretty useless.

LTb1ow
03-28-2009, 10:45 AM
Yup not downing you, just commenting. The people that do a lot of reps with no weight anger me. I will stop ranting, lol.

Tsar
03-28-2009, 10:48 AM
Yup not downing you, just commenting. The people that do a lot of reps with no weight anger me. I will stop ranting, lol.
:lol: I dislike them too! I'm not a fan of being in the gym for a long time so I rarely do more than 8 reps per set. Which means I have to go heavy most of the time, to cut my time at the gym.

I also dislike people who don't to legs... They look funny.

LTb1ow
03-28-2009, 10:50 AM
Hey now! :(

One day I will get a sqat rack, one day...

Tsar
03-28-2009, 10:55 AM
um...you could squat with DB's but I think that's a pita. get a squat rack! :lol:

LTb1ow
03-28-2009, 10:59 AM
No where to put one. :(

And I do not want to join a damn gym, argg.

Tsar
03-28-2009, 11:02 AM
No where to put one. :(

And I do not want to join a damn gym, argg.
I'm sure you said why before, but um..why? too crowded?

LTb1ow
03-28-2009, 11:04 AM
Yea, and I just have a better mindset when I am alone and lifting, IDK, people bother me.

Tsar
03-28-2009, 11:13 AM
Gotcha, different strokes for different folks.

LTb1ow
03-28-2009, 11:14 AM
Yea and most importantly, I can listen to my sweet lifting playlist really freaking loud and no one can complain. ;)

madness410
03-28-2009, 12:31 PM
matt i can teach u good leg workouts you can do with dumbells. but this is the reason why i joined a gym, i have a squat rack at home but i need to buy more weight. i squat 345 at the gym and deadlift 35...and those are compound excersizes and are really good...like the benchpress is for chest.

as for looks...i know what u are talking about the guido look. im not a big fan either but if you have size and your body fat is low you are going to look like that...hence body builders lol.

more reps less weight is BS...some say "oh it will help me get toned"..BS. working out muscles is working out muscles. i mean i guess it may help if u go out of breath and get a cardio workout but there are better ways to get cardio

DevilDougWS6
03-28-2009, 01:00 PM
So who does military press with dumbells?

It makes me feel weak. :( lol

i do....mostly with the smith machine though. dumbells take a lot of control. i could put up like 150 with the smith....but dumbells maybe 50 each arm.

Tsar
03-28-2009, 01:09 PM
i do....mostly with the smith machine though. dumbells take a lot of control. i could put up like 150 with the smith....but dumbells maybe 50 each arm.

That's why he said it made his feel weak :lol:



Seems like people are against having a decent BF%, weird :lol:

madness410
03-28-2009, 01:10 PM
i do military press with dumbells...evens out the strength in each arm as opposed to using a barbell. i think i do 70s

DevilDougWS6
03-28-2009, 01:13 PM
im probably going to start using just dumbells for this reason. i dunno i want to be somewhat cut, but at the same time i like being bigger. my bf is like 13% and im 175 at 5'9" is that bad? lol

madness410
03-28-2009, 03:27 PM
sounds like you can tack on a few more pounds of muscle.

Ian
03-28-2009, 07:22 PM
I used to do dumbell military press' with 55 lbs, I think I did it with 60 once.

I'm pretty skinny, I'm 5'11" and 162 lbs.

LTb1ow
03-28-2009, 07:27 PM
LOL same height and I have like 40 lbs on ya. And I try to throw in a few sets of 50 lb dumbels military press every once in a while.

Anti_Rice_Guy
03-28-2009, 08:20 PM
Ian, you think you're skinny? I'm 6'1 and 150. I haven't done the military press in a long time, but I believe I did 45s before.

Tsar
03-28-2009, 10:11 PM
Ian, you think you're skinny? I'm 6'1 and 150. I haven't done the military press in a long time, but I believe I did 45s before.

Holy hell! Have you tried eating? :lol:

Ian
03-29-2009, 01:30 AM
I dont know about nick, but I eat almost non stop and I dont gain anything! :lol:

z28rob18
03-29-2009, 06:47 AM
I dont know about nick, but I eat almost non stop and I dont gain anything! :lol:

you will some day. from 9th grade till i graduated i was 6'4" @ 165lbs this year ive been eating for real and lifting and im up to 185 and im tryin for more.

Tsar
03-29-2009, 08:32 AM
I dont know about nick, but I eat almost non stop and I dont gain anything! :lol:
I see a lot of weight gainer in your future + good food. That sometimes helps your body types.

WildBillyT
03-29-2009, 08:40 AM
I see a lot of weight gainer in your future + good food. That sometimes helps your body types.

You just need to pick a good one. Some of them constipate you and try to slow digestion in order to help you gain weight.

Ian
03-29-2009, 09:48 AM
I see a lot of weight gainer in your future + good food. That sometimes helps your body types.

When I can lift again, I'll have to try some of that

You just need to pick a good one. Some of them constipate you and try to slow digestion in order to help you gain weight.

nasty, I dont want to be constipated! :lol:

DevilDougWS6
03-29-2009, 09:56 AM
sounds like you can tack on a few more pounds of muscle.

thats what im goin for. been steadily losing fat weight and gaining muscle back. need to bulk up a bit more because im going to lose a lot of fat in iraq.

Tsar
03-29-2009, 09:58 AM
Why can't you lift Ian?

Ian
03-29-2009, 11:48 AM
I had hernia surgery on the 19th. I can't lift more than 10lbs :lol:

Anti_Rice_Guy
03-29-2009, 04:00 PM
Holy hell! Have you tried eating? :lol:

I dont know about nick, but I eat almost non stop and I dont gain anything! :lol:

:nod:What Ian said. I eat like 6 meals a day. full size. I wake up starved. My metabolism is insane.

LTb1ow
03-29-2009, 04:01 PM
I ate three cookies today, I feel fat. :(

lol

DevilDougWS6
03-29-2009, 09:22 PM
lol, i cant even think of six different food items for meals for a day.

Tsar
03-29-2009, 09:23 PM
I eat 6 times a day too. its good for u.

madness410
03-29-2009, 09:31 PM
I eat 6 times a day too. its good for u.

smaller meals of course right lol

LTb1ow
03-29-2009, 09:38 PM
Food when I am hungry and if no food is there, drink water.

Tsar
03-30-2009, 08:59 AM
smaller meals of course right lol
Besides lunch, yea.

LTb1ow
04-05-2009, 10:44 PM
Ok, so I think I am finally going to stop taking superpump, I think I am addicted...

Anyways, can I cycle it with another type of nitric oxide supplement?

madness410
04-05-2009, 11:14 PM
Ok, so I think I am finally going to stop taking superpump, I think I am addicted...

Anyways, can I cycle it with another type of nitric oxide supplement?

yeah how long have u been taking it again? sometimes its good to quit n.o. cold turkey for a few weeks.. when i stopped i was getting chest pains from it

LTb1ow
04-05-2009, 11:15 PM
No pains or anything weird, just doesn't work like it used to.

madness410
04-05-2009, 11:17 PM
yeah thats the reason why your body builds up a tolerance. if u quit it for like 4 weeks or so and start taking it again its like your body never took it. does that supplement work for u?