Not this again.

[ThoR294]

so if they are grounded all the time wouldn't the car just flood out? something doesn't seem right about the test

[LTb1ow]

If the hot was grounded, in theory it should pop the fuse. None of the injectors would fire then.

[LS1ow]

Im gunna just go over everything with actual ohm meter after worjk

[ThoR294]

If the hot was grounded, in theory it should pop the fuse. None of the injectors would fire then.

Aye but only if its before the injector (load on the circuit) right? If its pinched right before the switch that controls the injector, wouldn't it just stay at 100% PWM and flood, if its all 8 doing it? haha.

Im gunna just go over everything with actual ohm meter after worjk

That's what I'd do. Wiring sucks but it feels good when you find the problem

[LS1ow]

I never used a 2 lead test light before, so I just want to make sure.

On way home from work now, will report back in about an hour

[wretched73]

Did you set the car on fire yet?

[LS1ow]

Alright bruhs...

12v Reading on ohm meter. I guess test like is fubared

[ThoR294]

Alright bruhs...

12v Reading on ohm meter. I guess test like is fubared

Where are your leads again?

[sweetbmxrider]

You can use that test light as a noid light

[LS1ow]

Where are your leads again?

Black to ground stud on drive shock tower, red directly into pink wire terminal on injector plug

[LS1ow]

Just be to safe I am going to try to get a noid light set from a tech at work, I’m sure one of them got one. Also going to try to verify spark again. Have not done so since swapping plugs a few months back.

[LTb1ow]

If you got power and ground to each injector, and you know the PCM is commanding them on, well, time for an LT1.

[ThoR294]

If you got power and ground to each injector, and you know the PCM is commanding them on, well, time for an LT1.

pretty much. if you have spark, compression, fuel pressure, and this happening... should run

[V]

Probably not helpful, but got fuel at injectors on that side? I didnt go back to read what type of fuel rails you have but maybe there's an obstruction or air pocket?

[LS1ow]

Probably not helpful, but got fuel at injectors on that side? I didnt go back to read what type of fuel rails you have but maybe there's an obstruction or air pocket?

yessir. My rail feeds in from DS, right before injector one. Deff fuel in the rail

[LTb1ow]

Noid light, then, new PCM time

[LS1ow]

Noid light, then, new PCM time

man i hope its a pcm and not more wire diag

[LS1ow]

Lmfao noid light lights.

Lmfoa lmfao lmfao

[ThoR294]

Lmfao noid light lights.

Lmfoa lmfao lmfao

:bertstare: explain

[LTb1ow]

Noids gun noid yo

[ThoR294]

does noid light light or flash?

https://youtu.be/5MmR-wXddVw?t=2m58s

[sweetbmxrider]

Are the plugs wet? With it running, pull each ignition wire off one at a time. The air gap between the plug and wire will be enough to make a nice audible clicking noise to let you know its firing....

[V]

.hmm, another long shot... coils on driver side good? coil harness good? I'm just thinking maybe the cylinders are not firing, not because injectors are out, but maybe because coils are out?... can't hurt to check right?


edit, yeah basically what adam said, check for spark on that side, lol. I didn't read the recent replies until after i posted.

[Blackbirdws6]

IG post requires explanation Beggs!!!

[Jersey Mike]

B.H. needs the real video. Dont @ me.

[LS1ow]

Alright so, those of you with Instagram already know we’re this is going....

On my lunch break yesterday I swung home and tested all 8 injectors with the noid light, and they all lit.

So I quickly pulled off the coils and bought them back to work with me. When I got a second I went over the coil harness, and turns out the driver side coils were wired wrong. I realized when I was tucking the wires under the coil brackets I messed up. Since I wired them up upsides down to hide the wires, on the bench cyl 7 was to the left and cyl 1 to the right. So when flipped back over to go install, it was backwards. How did I not do this on the pass side? I’m not sure lmao

But anyway, threw coils back on and fired up. Sounded much better and I actually got a reading from the wideband !

Backed the car out and let it idle for a bit and let it get to temp. Pulled a injector plug just to verify it was firing and indeed it was. The car idles much nicer, but it still isn’t perfect. There are a few small pops and hiccups at idle.

Ended up taking it around the block. It needs an alignment in the worst way. I eased into it a tiny bit for a second, maybe got to 20% throttle and it broke up. I do feel like it would have cleared itself up if I stayed in it but I didn’t want to chance anything without tuner there.

Part out thread should be up by end of day

[wretched73]

Good lord man. You really like to live on the edge. Everyone makes a mistake with wiring so no biggie there, glad you got it figured out.

You have no idea what this tune is like and you take it for a spin. My balls would have been in my throat the whole time.

[LS1ow]

Good lord man. You really like to live on the edge. Everyone makes a mistake with wiring so no biggie there, glad you got it figured out.

You have no idea what this tune is like and you take it for a spin. My balls would have been in my throat the whole time.

Yolo

[LTb1ow]

I did the exact same thing Beggz, so I can't make fun of you.

Change the plugs prior to tunage though plz

[Blackbirdws6]

You and Smash can commiserate together regarding the coil wiring.

[MDSheds_SS]

Guess this means Racewars thread should be opening soon???

[LS1ow]

You and Smash can commiserate together regarding the coil wiring.

Oddly, i think the only JSFBOA member i dont have parts from on my car is smash.

[Blackbirdws6]

Guess this means Racewars thread should be opening soon???

It will be coming soon enough. Hopefully my car will be ready soon.

Oddly, i think the only JSFBOA member i dont have parts from on my car is smash.

He is the only member that leaves nothing intact.

[LS1ow]

So I turned the car around today to be able to work on the hood fitment but mostly for the lulz.

I notice on the pass bank, each header pipe looks uniform. On the driver side, it looks like cyl 1 and 5 have been seeing a ton of heat. The header tube is blue/purple ish

[Blackbirdws6]

Pft. You need some real problems. Come back to me when they are cherry red after a 30 sec cold start :).

[LS1ow]

Pulled the car out of the garage yesterday again to sweep the floor. Fired up quicker than my brand new truck does. Shines pretty nice for something that has never seen soap.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/855/29674242648_76f333026d_z.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1761/42828187254_60402af77f_z.jpg
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/854/42640633795_8c8e8cd3f3_z.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1807/29674242678_c6d0cf8212_z.jpg

[IROCZman15]

we will examine it in person next week at the Duke Island event !

[LS1ow]

Heres what i was talking about with the header tubes.

Driver side:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/933/42640633335_2f21489931_b.jpg

Pass Side, peep cyl 1 and 5.
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/931/42828186984_27dda95667_b.jpg

[sweetbmxrider]

Yeah probably from your coil wiring fiasco brah :lol:

[LS1ow]

Did some street tuning today.

Other than exhaust hanging low and alignment O’ death... feelsgoodman.jpg

[LS1ow]

New o2 sensors in. Not sure if I mentioned it before, but they got smoked. BLS told me to order a set prior to street tune and I didn’t. I shoulda listened.

Started pulling the X pipe off. Going to apply a bit of heat to the 1 part that hits the X member and massage it

[LS1ow]

Also purchased some heat shielding stick on mat & sleeves.

Sleeves for the trans fluid hoses and starter wiring that pass close to the header. Mat for the the gas tank

[MDSheds_SS]

When does the 1st burnout go down? The internet is waiting...

[ar0ck]

When does the 1st burnout go down? The internet is waiting...

Drone shot perhaps?

[MDSheds_SS]

Definitely 100%

[LTb1ow]

Wheelie during burnout, or foreva ban

[LS1ow]

I was told to stay away from WOT until after real tune :(


X pipe and rest of exhaust is back on all the way up to the rear section of piping for the tips. I dont think i really picked up much room from tucking it a bit more, but better than nothing. I think im going to have to visit an exhaust shop, but i think ill be okay till winter.

[LS1ow]

For those of you that dont follow me on IG, the car made its maiden voyage out of my neighborhood. All the way to the sunoco for a full tank of 93.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1778/43023775244_e70f19c37d_z.jpg

After that, i drove the car back home and threw on the stock hood. Around dusk i drove it to my buddy Carlos Sobrinos shop to get it aligned.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/935/42835555805_b142e6e05d_z.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/848/42835555695_0d987cb2b8_z.jpg

The drive there is about 5 miles. Was followed by a cop for about 2 of them but he turned off. I manged to get caught at literally every light on the way.

The car deff feels a bit "wonky" and odd. Hoping the alignment fixes most of it. Also the exhaust really needs to be addressed. In the back its to low, and in the front it smashes the floor. I may end up ditching the true duals.

[LTb1ow]

Awwww yea!

[wretched73]

Looks good! Congrats!

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Needs more chalk on hood.

[IROCZman15]

congrats! thats some good progress !

[Jersey Mike]

Also the exhaust really needs to be addressed. In the back its to low, and in the front it smashes the floor. I may end up ditching the true duals.

Don't abandon ship yet. See if you or a pro can play with them a little bit before you make your decision.


I considered them ditching my Magnaflow + dual tips + cutout setup but, based on everything I read online, I think I would need to modify the SE TDs with different mufflers if I was to ever pick them up. $500 TDs + $100 PHB Relo + $50 in hardware + $150 in mufflers + $150 in welding + $350 DMH cutouts = $1,300 all in just sounded steep for an FBody "catback" in my case. Granted, still cheaper than the KOOKS system, but when weighing the pros/cons of swapping, I haven't been able to justify the swap in my head yet.


Hoping you get the fitment sorted out and they grow on you.

[LS1ow]

Got a call from my buddy last night letting my know the car was done. Didnt get a chance to pick it up.(Monday and Tuesday i work late) but he said he should be there a bit after hours working on his race car so i should be able to get there to pick it up.

-Alignment done to a race spec. Aligned with person in car(as well as a few batteries to match my weight :kneeslap:)
-Ride Height set
-Pinion angle set
-Rear Centered
-Any under car wiring i half assed was tucked away nice
-Cables to starter and trans cooler lines rerouted between the block and the engine mount post(more clearance from header.)
-Entire exhaust was loosed and pushed up in numerous spots with tall screw jack stands and re-tightened.

[MDSheds_SS]

Don't abandon ship yet. See if you or a pro can play with them a little bit before you make your decision.


I considered them ditching my Magnaflow + dual tips + cutout setup but, based on everything I read online, I think I would need to modify the SE TDs with different mufflers if I was to ever pick them up. $500 TDs + $100 PHB Relo + $50 in hardware + $150 in mufflers + $150 in welding + $350 DMH cutouts = $1,300 all in just sounded steep for an FBody "catback" in my case. Granted, still cheaper than the KOOKS system, but when weighing the pros/cons of swapping, I haven't been able to justify the swap in my head yet.


Hoping you get the fitment sorted out and they grow on you.

$200 off road y + $25 3” pipe + $20 turn down + $1 earplugs = sendit for under $250

[LTb1ow]

$200 off road y + $25 3” pipe + $20 turn down + $1 earplugs = sendit for under $250

$free, Open heads = just gonna seennd ittttt

[Jersey Mike]

Yeah, run that passed your neighbors next time you're pulling in at midnight :lol:

[sweetbmxrider]

Nice work, dude

[LS1ow]

Think ill have time to get the car tonight.

Cant beat on it much since its still got the stock injectors in it. There isnt enough fuel at the top and she leans out. Really looking forward to getting my injectors in and my foot to the floor.

unrelated to above... does anyone know if there is gunna be a nice black friday deal on a rear?

[MDSheds_SS]

https://allentown.craigslist.org/cto/d/drag-car-roller/6646212014.html

It’s not a Black Friday sale but it’s a 12 bolt with a free car for the same price as a new rear.

[LS1ow]

https://allentown.craigslist.org/cto/d/drag-car-roller/6646212014.html

It’s not a Black Friday sale but it’s a 12 bolt with a free car for the same price as a new rear.

ooOooOohhhh interesting... and i dont think youve been a member here long enough to know me and purple are made for eachother. :mrgreen:

[LS1ow]

Picked up the car last night late. Wanted to get it home before todays n last nights rain. Car drives much nicer than it did on the way there. 275s upfront and no power steering is an adventure in itself. Theres still some sounds coming from the back of the car on bumps, not really sure what they are yet. I was told the tires JUST clear in the back on the inside after centering the rear, so maybe its just them hitting on bumps. I havent BFH'd the inner fender tub so looks like that will be this weekends project.

I took the backroads from my friends shop to the service road next to the airport, at the end up the service road instead of taking side streets to my house i opted to hop on route 17. Merged to 55-60 without issue and cruised down the short stint of highway to my house without a hickup.

Car feels good.

[Blackbirdws6]

Glad the car is feeling better. What size rubber do you have in the rear?

[ThoR294]

what trailing arms you running in the back? Poly, heim joint, stock?

[LS1ow]

Glad the car is feeling better. What size rubber do you have in the rear?

315/35(maybe 40) 17s. Pulled the rear wheels off today to massage some metal

what trailing arms you running in the back? Poly, heim joint, stock?

UMI tubular w. Poly ends

[ThoR294]

UMI tubular w. Poly ends

That's your rear noise.

you have to grease them every 50 miles or they clunk. they bind like crazy. i swapped my bmr poly/poly's for boxed in stockers with new bushings. MUCH better ride.

or you can get heim joint ones, they seem to be better.

[MDSheds_SS]

^^^ is definitely a possibility, but you have 60’ of 3” pipe under a lowered Fbody, my guess would be the exhaust is touching somewhere. I could be wrong tho. Check the shocks too, make sure they aren’t bottomed out. Normally when i push the right pedal down all of the noises go away.

[LTb1ow]

Yea, its a 4th gen rattle trap.

Just floor it and turn the radio up.

Don't tbone any old folks though.

[Blackbirdws6]

Does my car rattle? Can I diagnose any moderate noise? The answer to both of these is I have no idea because she likes to yell.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

My car doesn't rattle, only when I have the plastic convertible boot on.

[qwikz28]

My car doesn't rattle, only the entire time the key is in the ignition.

Same.

[LS1ow]

I’ll grease em up and see what happens.

I took the day off to go to doctor and get recall done on my truck, so I had some time in afternoon. I pulled off the rear tires and BFH’d were it was hitting. Undercoat stuff they coat the wheel well with was rubbed off in 1 spot. So I massaged the shiney area and hit the whole wheel house with some black paint.

Swapped out the 80s style Z28 emblems on the fenders for some 5th gen-ish emblems. Didn’t want to pay $40 each for OEM ones so I found these online. I’ll get pics up tmmr.

Also fixed my headlamp debocal.

[MDSheds_SS]

When/where is your dyno tune happening?

[LS1ow]

Still trying to find out when. Im real close friends with the tuner, so after going back n forth of non working dates he said we can just do it on a sunday at his shop instead of during hours. So we settled on the 12th, BUT, now hes sponsoring The Slipstream event at Pocono that day so well have to find another date. Most likely the 19th.

His shop is on linden, feel free to bring food, drink, fireworks, blast shields and fire extinguishers. Also tissues for when i make less than 400.

[MDSheds_SS]

Might have take the tops off and roll down 1&9 to see this event.

[LS1ow]

Oh yeah, also changed the routing of the fuel supply line. It preiouvsly took a 90* turn out of the rail towards the fender, so the supply line was bent in the shape of a question mark. Not a good look. Got a straight AN connector instead of the 90* and now its a nicer 180* bend instead of a preztel twist.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1840/43822003011_abd0cdfcdb_z.jpg

[LS1ow]

Original Denim jacket and cocain emblems. (also, peep the shorts)

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/848/43773555502_cb507e6e68_z.jpg

New ones.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1834/43773556882_833f92b98f_z.jpg

[Blackbirdws6]

New ones look to be on straight too! Nice

[LS1ow]

New ones look to be on straight too! Nice

If you look to the right after the 8 you can see a line,i squared off the old emblem using painters tape and then hit it with the rubber wheel.

[wretched73]

Looks good! Love the shorts- socks and sandals, not so much. :p

And I'm a little disappointed in the emblems. You have red and white but no blue??? I think the / could easily be painted blue

[Jersey Mike]

New ones look to be on straight too! Nice

They grow up so fast dont they :cry:

[sweetbmxrider]

Might have take the tops off and roll down 1&9 to see this event.

I was just hammering through the lakes in the work truck on 1&9 from this afternoon's downpour, so ****ing fun. I also saw a woodbridge pool billboard and wondered if that was one of the ****ers that invited you to the showroom :rofl::rofl:

[LS1ow]

Not much to update. Ive been working fullshifts at work (630-6) the past week and a few days covering coworkers on vaca so i haven't had much time to mess with or drive.

Did decide to take it to work this morning.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1816/29023478747_1833912aef_z.jpg

[LTb1ow]

Awww yea!

I to took my heep into work, and it made it home. Today was a good day

[LS1ow]

Awww yea!

I to took my heep into work, and it made it home. Today was a good day

Hoping i have the same luck :lol:

[sweetbmxrider]

:rofl: update???

[LS1ow]

Made it ! Forgot there was a jets preseason game. MetLife stadium is literally dead center of my 5 mile commute to work. Normally takes me 10 minutes, took me 53 minutes to get home today.

[qwikz28]

Made it ! Forgot there was a jets preseason game. MetLife stadium is literally dead center of my 5 mile commute to work. Normally takes me 10 minutes, took me 53 minutes to get home today.

Thanks for reminding me why I don't miss that area.

[IROCZman15]

53 minutes of seat time is a good thing!

no issues sitting in all that slow traffic though?

[Jersey Mike]

Yeah, that was a good test, Mick. Put it through the ringer for a while as you try to expose the gremlins. Congrats, man! This is awesome!

[LS1ow]

53 minutes of seat time is a good thing!

no issues sitting in all that slow traffic though?

No sir, the EWP and 160 T stat didnt even let me get to 210 while i was chugging down rt3 at 5mph.

Yeah, that was a good test, Mick. Put it through the ringer for a while as you try to expose the gremlins. Congrats, man! This is awesome!

had to get put to the test sometime, and with the way the traffic is gunna be now i figured friday was the last day that wouldnt be terrible.

[Blackbirdws6]

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1816/29023478747_1833912aef_z.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TSLU5iW.jpg

[LS1ow]

So there are quiet a few issues with the car, but im not sure they are actual issues. It may just be the nature of the beast.

1. There is a lot of creeks and squeaks on the inside of the car. Im pretty sure that is due to the panels having about half the fasteners, no sound deadening, and it being an Fbody. Not really concerned with this, but an issue none the less. I am not jersey mike, so i will not doing anything about this.

2. The passenger side suspension is VERY creaky. If i bounce the passenger side it makes a lot of noise. If i bounce the driver side it makes no sound. The suspension set up in the front end is Strange Coilovers, Spohn Ajustable tubular lower Arms(Spherical rod ends), Spohn non adjustable tubular upper arms(poly bushings) and a PA Racing Tubular K. Thinking a WD40 bath as step 1.

3. The driver side suspension feels like its made of bricks. If i hit anything larger than a manhole cover, it jolts my spine into next week. Maybe the rebound rate needs to be adjusted? Seems odd that the driverside is so stiff when i hit a pot hole, let the driver side lifts much more than passenger side on take off.

4. Im not sure if im not used to driving anything with a large stall, but something doesnt seem right. Car has a Yank SS4000. If i punch it from a dead stop, it seems perfect. But if im on the highway cruising and give it some little pedal to change lanes or something it seems "floaty". And it sometimes seems like it doesnt know if it wants to be on 3rd or overdrive. Im going to recheck trans fluid and go from there.

[MDSheds_SS]

Sounds like we built the same car. Get a tune and Send It. Pick up the piece after the first 1/4 mile run.

[sweetbmxrider]

Yeah I'd lube **** up, adjust that driver shock tighter cause its probably bottoming out, and sounds like the shift point mph and rpm needs to be adjusted. Just figure out what speed it is wandering between 3rd and od and what would be a better compromise with the roads you run.

[LS1ow]

Sounds like we built the same car. Get a tune and Send It. Pick up the piece after the first 1/4 mile run.

Similar, mines just a second slower.

Yeah I'd lube **** up, adjust that driver shock tighter cause its probably bottoming out, and sounds like the shift point mph and rpm needs to be adjusted. Just figure out what speed it is wandering between 3rd and od and what would be a better compromise with the roads you run.

Ill hit it with wd40 and figure out which way to turn the knob

[LTb1ow]

To 11.

[LS1ow]

Okay so while the front end of off I want to address the fog light issue.

I tested the bulbs themselves with a battery, they are good. Can some with a running F body with working fogs(longshot, I know) confirm that with the car not running but key powers the fog lights will turn on? If not, what does it require for foglight illumination? I didn’t see a fog light fuse, so that’s out.

Also when I check the bulb, I checked with the power and ground to eather pins and it works both ways. Not sure if matters on the car. I would assume flipped bulb pins is not the issue since the little light on the fog switch doesn’t light up at all.

Can someone find me a pin out for the fog switch? I think the brown pin would be power in, but It’s like a 4-5 pin connector, so I want to know which one is signal. So if I have power at the switch, I can jump it to the signal wire and check.

[sweetbmxrider]

You had the parking lights on too, right?

[Jersey Mike]

Do you have HID or halogen fogs?

[LS1ow]

You had the parking lights on too, right?

Yar.

Do you have HID or halogen fogs?

LED bulbs in stock housings.

[sweetbmxrider]

Leds should be directional, as they are light emitting diodes and diodes are directional. I would grab a test light and make sure you got pah and gruh.

Brown is power in from headlight switch.

Yellow is power out to fog lamp relay.

Light Green is indicator lamp.

Gray is switch illumination.

Black is ground.


The brown also feeds the power input side of the relay. The purple goes to the lights themselves.

[LS1ow]

were is this fog light relay you speak of?

And ill check to see if i have them backwards, but even if i did wouldnt the light on the switch light up ?

[sweetbmxrider]

Yeah switch would light up.

Driver side electrical center #1 which is closer to the strut tower. Its one of the two small relays. The other small one is the horn. The three large ones are for fans.

[LS1ow]

Switch was bad. Had extra one upstairs in shop from previous part out, we have illumination

[LTb1ow]

muy bien

[The_Bishop]

Let there be light?

[LS1ow]

Was super dissapoint with the LED bulbs in the stock fog housings, and a big bad birdy told me HIDs dont fit well in them... so i compromised. Had a set of 3" round LED fog lights from #JeepLife laying around, and this is the end result.

Before, factory nonsense.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1886/29228919257_149df971f6_z.jpg

Now, Jeep Life.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1882/44118335412_5c917985e2_z.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1865/44118336012_4fb9b49d45_z.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1879/42358009530_027f6ef05c_z.jpg

They bolted right up to the factory mount using the factory hardware. Just had to bend the tabs out to clear the larger light housing. Im going to end up cutting them off so it looks cleaner. Will wire them up today and see how they are.

[LTb1ow]

Do you have a jeep thing on your air dam as well....?

fuggin heep bros

[ar0ck]

Got a part number on those? I was thinking of doing something similar on the Trans Am myself!

[sweetbmxrider]

Bls has a factory drop in setup that is led

[LS1ow]

Do you have a jeep thing on your air dam as well....?

fuggin heep bros

Bruh your like 15 thread pages late on that.

Got a part number on those? I was thinking of doing something similar on the Trans Am myself!

Welp, recycling went out this morn so box is gone. Ill dig threw my amazon history.

Bls has a factory drop in setup that is led

BLS texted me literally 24 hours after i did this offering me them. :bertstare:

[Blackbirdws6]

So lights are cool and all but has this thing made a pass down the 1/4 yet? (Consequences!)

[LS1ow]

So lights are cool and all but has this thing made a pass down the 1/4 yet? (Consequences!)

Sadly i havent even really had the chance to beat on it. I have the front end apart for some other things besides dem LEDs, and i just got the injectors back from being cleaned and matched. Theyre in already, but im dead in the water without a new flash to the PCM for the larger injectors/other changes.

[LS1ow]

Finally had a sec to wire the LED fogs up. They are a flood beam so they kinda throw light everywhere. But i think them sitting so back in the bumper will help not destroy oncoming traffics retinas .

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1885/30441626808_6077b81442_z.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1882/44308480961_cd57fb1416_z.jpg

[Blackbirdws6]

You're now "that guy".

[LS1ow]

Part 2 of front end off shens is this.

Ive been planning on changing the intake set up and i wanted to do so before the car hits the dyno. I came across a deal on a Chris1313 Non Ac ram air set up so i scooped that up. And i also came a cross a 104mm lid to go with it as well in place of the cracked SLP lid. Previously the transcooler was mounted at the bottom of the rad, that needed to be moved to fit the larger non AC ram air set up. The lid should be here today or tomorrow.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1897/44260695412_9e9bbfd1cb_z.jpg
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[wretched73]

That intake is neat-o. Do other people have issues with overheating when they run it? it looks like it covers the majority of the radiator.

[LS1ow]

That intake is neat-o. Do other people have issues with overheating when they run it? it looks like it covers the majority of the radiator.

Its hard to tell in the pics but it doesnt sit right against the rad with exception of the top 2" or so were it goes into the air lid. It covers the front of the rad, but none of the air that comes up from the bottom off the little plastic air duct thing. And i think thats were the rad gets most of its cooling from.

[sweetbmxrider]

Yeah it would be very similar to stock since there is a plastic shroud to help channel air from the air dam across the radiator. If anything, adding more material to block the air from going anywhere else but the radiator would be a good thing.

[LS1ow]

Welp, this rad talk must have jinxed me. Pulled the car out of the garage to work on another project inside. Let the car idle for a few mins just to get some fluid moving... andddd its leaking coolant. The bottom of the ram air is pretty sharp, i must have sliced into the rad a bit when installing. New rad is on the way.

[The_Bishop]

i just got the injectors back from being cleaned and matched.

Who'd you send the injectors to?

[Blackbirdws6]

Pretty rad bro. Clock is ticking!

[LS1ow]

Who'd you send the injectors to?

My tuner has the machine at his shop in linden

http://www.speedperf6rmanc3.com/

[The_Bishop]

Nice. May have mine done at some point. What injectors you have in yours?

[LS1ow]

Nice. May have mine done at some point. What injectors you have in yours?

Stock injectors for a pontiac GTP. They run @ 41lbs on a LS1 fuel system. Budget friendly option. :nod:

[LS1ow]

Picked up some Aluminum grill mesh to fill in the catfish mouth until an inter cooler can. Full on drift car build install... epoxy and zip ties.

Before:
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After:
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Added Z28 emblem as well.
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[sweetbmxrider]

I feel like it should have been painted 'Murica before install....

[LS1ow]

Put some more miles on the car this weekend, about 80 of em. Half of which was with my tuner sitting shotty on the lap top making changes.

-Changed some stuff on the cold start. It used to fluctuate RPM quiet a bit for the first few seconds(till the O2s kick on i guess) Now it sits just at a higher idle for the first few seconds before dropping down to optimal cam chugga chugga.

-Another problem that was fixed, previously when i would let off the gas after stabing it real quick the car would stumble and shut off. I remember a lot of TTP tuned cars at the rental were doing this after the burn out. A throttle blips, nish had it all sorted out. Not even a hiccup

-Played with how the trans acts as well. As previously stated, the car felt like it didnt know what gear it wanted. That has been solved. Previously the converter would not lock until 62mph, and would unlock at 10% throttle. Now it locks at 40mph, and will not unlock until 30% throttle. The car is much nicer to drive on the highway around here now. Trans feels awesome and hits hard, thank you again kirk.

Trying to get some more miles on the car this week to make sure theres no more issues before dyno day.

[MDSheds_SS]

TTP tuned cars stalling???? I wonder who’s car you are referring to.
Glad to see your heading in the right direction.

[Blackbirdws6]

Sounds like you are on the right track. Keep at it.

[LTb1ow]

TTP tuned cars stalling???? I wonder who’s car you are referring to.
Glad to see your heading in the right direction.

A few on here :bertstare:

[LS1ow]

TTP tuned cars stalling???? I wonder who’s car you are referring to.
Glad to see your heading in the right direction.

Was your car TTP turned? I don’t remember it shutting off. I do remember the C6 not being able to do a burnout without it shutting off

[MDSheds_SS]

Was your car TTP turned? I don’t remember it shutting off. I do remember the C6 not being able to do a burnout without it shutting off

Yea, TTP tuned my car. A few times actually. It’s better then it was but it will still stall out after a burnout. So I just flip it into neutral and bring the idle down myself as I roll up to the beams. Not ideal, by any means but it’s what I’ve learned to do so I’m not the guy that stalls and automatic car at the track.

[LS1ow]

took my well mannered, non violent, shifts dont hurt my spine, quiet street car to get some groceries yesterday !

Also, i threw on a new front lip for extra stancey points.

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Bumper is only held on my 3 push pins at the center mount, and 1 nut on each fender, hoping adding the correct amount of hardware fixes this gap.

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[Blackbirdws6]

Important question - Get anything good at the store?

[LS1ow]

10 for $5 Seltzer and 10 for $10 Gatorade !


I can also verify the trunk pop button on the key fob works.

[LS1ow]

Had to run home on my lunch break today so i decided why not get some more miles on it.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1849/44446341852_02316bf8be_z.jpg

[wretched73]

Car has come a long way and looks really good!

When is the beach run? Need pictars of sunrise by beach and bellowing tire smoke

[MDSheds_SS]

Is that green split hood mustang for sale?

[LS1ow]

Is that green split hood mustang for sale?

what !

[LTb1ow]

what !

Check the square thing in back of picture.

He made a good one :bertstare:

[LS1ow]

OHHHHHH. I get it !

[sweetbmxrider]

Looks good dude! Probably have to throw shims under the bumper to pull it up. Hood probably could have come forward based on driver fender corner to hood corner not meeting up but I assume the latches make that very difficult meow.

[LS1ow]

So on the ride home from work I noticed my fuel gauge is dead.

Any common problems to check ?

[LTb1ow]

So on the ride home from work I noticed my fuel gauge is dead.

Any common problems to check ?

Is there fuel in the tank?
:nick:

[LS1ow]

Yaaas. It was at like 3/4 tank, now it’s dead empty

[qwikz28]

Common problem. Keep off the pedal on the right.

[sweetbmxrider]

Check the wiring is my best guess, I don't think there is anything common with them dying but if you were playing with the sending unit, I wonder if its still plugged in and floating...

[LS1ow]

Fuel gauge works again

[LS1ow]

So do we have any guesses as to what kinda numbers this thing will put down tmmr ?

[LTb1ow]

Hopefully good ones.

[V]

413rwhp

[Blackbirdws6]

Dynojet - 470rwhp
Mustang - 420rwhp

[wretched73]

No bets on whether it makes it to the dyno or not? :rofl:

Guessing 399rwhp max

[Jersey Mike]

Stock 243s, cam, 10 bolt, early September? Let's say 425/420

[sweetbmxrider]

Less than stock

[KirkEvil]

428hp/398tq

[MDSheds_SS]

I’m going price is right style. 001 Bob

Just kidding man, good luck man, Racewars is just a short time away.

[qwikz28]

Pulls were made.

[Blackbirdws6]

Guess was revised prior to pulls, 434rwhp. I thought heads were hogged out.

[qwikz28]

No update yet. Must be sub-400.

[LS1ow]

Pics, vids and elaboration to come tmmr. It isn’t go perfect, but it did go.


428/375

[LTb1ow]

So?

[wretched73]

Where's the dyno sheet!

Edit: And what are the cam specs? I couldn't find them

[Featherburner]

hopes and dreams/crushed :kneeslap:

[sweetbmxrider]

But does it 1320????

[Blackbirdws6]

This thread delivers.....minimally

[wretched73]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/293/051/bb8.jpg

[LS1ow]

So Saturday was an interesting day.

The drive to my buddies shop is about 30 miles from my house, so I was already so scare about the journey. But the car handled the ride down the turnpike pretty well. It does get a bit rowdy on really crowned areas and really bumpy areas. I think the 275s upfront with no power steering is to blame.

Got the car all strapped up and ready to rock. Tuner did some part throttle pulls the first few mins the car was on the rollers. I guess to not only make sure it was strapped good, but to feel it out and make any small changes.

After that, the real pulls started. First pull was 413rwph. First pull when super smooth.

Tuner made some changes, turned car off and then started her back up to do another pull. When he got on it(a high stall car on a dyno is ****ing weird btw) a puff of black came out the exhaust. Pull aborted and car was let to idle. Checked everything out to make sure nothing was funky under the hood. All good. Listened for any odd noises, nothing to be found. Revved up the car again, no smoke at all. So we got back at. Did another pull, 419hp

Also noticed, the car doesn’t like to start when its hot. The starter struggles to turn the motor over. Does fire every time, but deff cranks slow a second or 2 before it fires up.

Made some more changes quickly and fired it back up. No smoke during the pull this time, 422hp.

Turned the car off and went to make changes then do another pull, but was interrupted by a walk in customer looking to schedule some dyno time. My tuner and the walk in customer hashed out some details, went over the car, went for a quick ride in it to see the issue and then scheduled a date. All in all, about 40 minutes total of my car sitting again between starts.

Started up and was idling fine, started to get into the gas and do a pull and there was a bit of smoke, nothing major, continued with pull. Soon as he stepped on it a large plume of black smoke came out and continued to smoke a bit for the full rpm band. That pull made 428hp. Youll see in the vids.

There was nothing in HP tuners that we were able to see that the smoke could be. Not a thing changed. Without shutting the car off, did another pull. Zero smoke at all, 428hp. Shut the car down and made a change or 2, started back up after a few minutes. Small plume of smoke on the pull, 428hp again.

Did a few more changes to try to get some moar pah but the graphs were literally just laying over each other at the 424-428 mark.

Took the car off the rollers and went to make some test runs to finalize shifting and everything, but the combo of a light rain for a few mins and absolutely garbage Toyo drag radials left us with no change of getting some solid test hits. Before going out on the road, I gave the car a quick rev and a small amount of smoke came out. The car never smoked again on the whole ride.

As far as the smoke goes, im assuming it is a crap valve stem seal due to it only smoking after the car sits for a bit and once it starts and sees some RPM it never smokes again. But who knows, any input?

Also I may be looking at either a bent rim or a bent axle. You were able to see it with your naked eye, a little bit of a funk while it was on the rollers. And you can certainly feel it once it gets up above 100. Im going to throw the Hoosiers on and throw the car on jack stands and see if I can see the hop In the wheel. Really hoping its just a bent wheel and I don’t need to put a rear in the car any earlier than I anticipate(which is Nov 13th)

Car also left a small puddle of trans fluid on the ground at the dyno. About a 6" diameter puddle. Looked to be right around were the taillight would be.

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Vid:

https://youtu.be/ne_WhW2Ggk4

[sweetbmxrider]

Black smoke would be fuel/carbon/rich ass bitch

Throw the wheel/tire on the balancer at work, could be a shifted belt in the tire too. Sounds like its the wheel though.

[LS1ow]

Black smoke would be fuel/carbon/rich ass bitch

Throw the wheel/tire on the balancer at work, could be a shifted belt in the tire too. Sounds like its the wheel though.

Yeah but it wasn’t running rich. Air/Fuel was good

[Blackbirdws6]

I'd like to see AFR plot if available. All in all a successful day. The saga will always continue.

[wretched73]

Since it happens after the car sits, maybe the injector leaks a little.

But congrats on the good pulls!

[LS1ow]

Started car yesterday and spun it around so i can back it into my garage and it didnt smoke at all.

[sweetbmxrider]

Yeah but it wasn’t running rich. Air/Fuel was good

Was it black or grayish blue? Black is rich, grayish blue is oil, white is sweet sweet antifreeze. I don't care what the sensor thinks. To read such a small fluctuation would be very difficult imo. You should log it and see what the factory short term and long term fuel trims are when the issue occurs. MAF would be good too.

Started car yesterday and spun it around so i can back it into my garage and it didnt smoke at all.

I feel like it can be tough to see what the exhaust is putting out from the driver seat, personal opinion.

[wretched73]

Truth is, the smoke was red, white, and blue

[LS1ow]

Swapped on the work boots last night since i plan on taking the car to a show this sunday. Heard some chatter from a few friends that there may be some people looking to get the sauce.

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[LTb1ow]

yesssssssssssss

[MDSheds_SS]

**** looks sick. Can’t wait to drag your ass in Nov.

[Blackbirdws6]

Looks fuggin tough man! Are you hitting up the huge show in Paramus on Sunday? Go kill a Pagani.... Too bad those guys don't actually drive their cars but have them trailered in likely for insurance reasons. Yes I'm jealous and hating.

[B4C]

Swapped on the work boots last night since i plan on taking the car to a show this sunday. Heard some chatter from a few friends that there may be some people looking to get the sauce.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1922/44248191344_f4cc4685be_c.jpg

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probably already been discussed but I don't feel like scrolling thru to find out.....where'd you get that front lip? looks good.

[wretched73]

Looks good! How many miles have you put on it so far? Still driving well?

[LS1ow]

**** looks sick. Can’t wait to drag your ass in Nov.

Thank you sir. And i feel privileged !

Looks fuggin tough man! Are you hitting up the huge show in Paramus on Sunday? Go kill a Pagani.... Too bad those guys don't actually drive their cars but have them trailered in likely for insurance reasons. Yes I'm jealous and hating.

Yes sir, Cars & Coffee at Garden State plaza. Should be a nice show to end the season.

probably already been discussed but I don't feel like scrolling thru to find out.....where'd you get that front lip? looks good.

I dont think i actually posted about it. I tossed it on the morning i got dyno'd. Its from a company named Ikon Motorsports. Ill get some more pics and a link for ya.

Looks good! How many miles have you put on it so far? Still driving well?

Thank you !

I was away all last week, and the week prior was a lot of rain by me, so ive only put about 80 miles on it since the tune. 30 or so of which were on the way home lol.


The car is so much nicer to drive on the skinnies up front. Turning is a breeze and it doesnt get tracked on roads like it does with the 255s up front. (No power steering)

[sweetbmxrider]

12s never looked so good

[LS1ow]

Chugga Chugga'd up to the Cars and Coffee at Garden State Plaza yesterday morning . Was nice cruising in the crisp air with the T-Tops off in the morning again. I missed that.

Found my rad cap to be leaky, so ordered one from chevy this morn to have for tomorrow. Yesterday was the first time i had a running Fbody in the same place as BLS or Hadji in prob 5 years at least. Feelsgoodman.jpeg

BLS pulled off a candid of me showing my buddy the car.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1906/44123632195_4cd6c771b8_c.jpg

He also snagged a pic of a Grizzly bear standing by my car.

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[Blackbirdws6]

I'm all about the candid photos. Looking forward to see those wheels up at the rental.

[LTb1ow]

"You know what? This will decimate all, after, you put about fifteen grand in it or more. If we have to, overnight parts from Japan."

[Blackbirdws6]

"You know what? This will decimate all, after, you put about fifteen grand in it or more. If we have to, overnight parts from Japan."

I may or may not have made this reference when seeing a custom color-shifting Lightning at the event.

[sweetbmxrider]

I'm all about the candid photos.

:nod:

Looks good

[LS1ow]

Quick question...

while cleaning up some stuff around my garage i found my LCA relocation brackets. I completely forgot about them so they never got installed.

Since the car was aligned already, is this something i should hold off doing until next time i get aligned? Or will the location of the arm not affect the DS angle or anything?

[LTb1ow]

I don't think they will, maybe ask Thor?

:bertstare:

[sweetbmxrider]

Are the lcas non adjustable? Either way, they usually are drilled in an arch to maintain the same distance.

[The_Bishop]

Shouldn't change anything if they're made right, the adjustment holes should be in an arch to maintain rear end location.

[wretched73]

https://ls1tech.com/forums/market/1905534

:bertstare:

[IROCZman15]

impressed at your passes at the rental. way to go man, lots of work paid off.

was curious as to what you think your vehicle curb weight is?
and approx horsepower after the tune?
i was not at the rental, and judging by the videos, it didn't appear you had the nitrous in use. do you have it hooked up and plumbed yet or is the car totally without nitrous on all those passes?

[LS1ow]

impressed at your passes at the rental. way to go man, lots of work paid off.

was curious as to what you think your vehicle curb weight is?
and approx horsepower after the tune?
i was not at the rental, and judging by the videos, it didn't appear you had the nitrous in use. do you have it hooked up and plumbed yet or is the car totally without nitrous on all those passes?

Without me in it the car came to either 3030,3031 or 3037. The last digit on the scale was hard to tell Bc it was kind of faded. Car made 428/375.

And I was all motor, I haven’t even purchased the kit yet lol

[IROCZman15]

damn that's awesome. didn't know the car was that light. good for you. yea I could tell by the sound the nitrous wasn't being used, but I didn't know you hadn't installed (or even bought) it yet.

glad the car is working and working well for ya.

[LS1ow]

Pepper.

[sweetbmxrider]

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