Not this again.

[LS1ow]

I did a thing.

I passed on buying this car a while back when it was at my buddys shop. Car was set up with a T-56 and procharger. The driveline was removed and swapped into a 2nd get T/a from what i understand. The car was bought before i could make room for it or anything so whatever.

Fast forward 4 months to last week, the car is for sale again. A quick ride to Yonkers, NY to make sure everything is good to go bout the car and after some :bertstare::bertstare::bertstare: the car is in my driveway.

1999 NBM w. Tan Interior Z28
LS1
T56

Car Has:
UMI 3 Point SFC
UMI LCAs
UMI LCA Relocation Brackets
UMI Adjustable TQ Arm
UMI Adjustable Panhard Bar
"Built Rear"

This "Built" rear is a 10 bolt. So far all i can tell about it is that it has a TA Girdle cover thing, and Extended wheel studs.

Not really sure wear i plan on heading with this. Auto or Stick is still up in the air with auto being in the lead by a significant amount. Also want to swap out the Tan gut... and the ZR1 Wheels.

Most likely its going to end up being a "Cam Only" build but who knows.

Theres some other issues that need to be addressed before that. Such as the lack of gas tank.


But anyway...

[WildBillyT]

Welcome back d00d

:D

[NJ Torque]

Nice... NBM is the only color I like a tan gut on.

[sweetbmxrider]

The more important question.....is there a 4bt in that bread truck????

[Jersey Mike]

Not sure on budget, but I have the steel tank out of the '95 still if you want it.

[Blackbirdws6]

Congrats on the new money pit. You need some new lights ;).

[LS1ow]

Nice... NBM is the only color I like a tan gut on.

I dont mind the seats all that much... the carpet is what kills me. I have a black carpet from my 01 Z, so maybe ill run the black carpet with the tan seats and see how it looks.

The more important question.....is there a 4bt in that bread truck????


no... BUT... it is for sale. come n git it

Not sure on budget, but I have the steel tank out of the '95 still if you want it.

Well the car had a fuel cell, so idk what im gunna do about that. But id like to steer away from the steel tank.

[Jersey Mike]

Yeah I opted for the same. Nonetheless it's free for you, should you want to relive your LT1 days.

[Blackbirdws6]

I think black carpet with tan seats will look sad.

[Jersey Mike]

Disagree. If done right, you could definitely pull it off. See attached.

[Blackbirdws6]

Not a fan, especially with the NBM exterior. Too many colors.

[madness410]

sweet ride

[LS1ow]

Not a fan, especially with the NBM exterior. Too many colors.

You realize whos car this is right ?

But seriously, after sitting in the car for a minute yesterday im not sure about the black on tan.

this is what i was imagining it would look like..

https://photos-2.carwow.co.uk/blog/1600/a8-tan.jpg


and the Fbody tan is much much lighter than i thought. Its almost like a pale grey.

[Jersey Mike]

Peanut butter.

The issue I'd see is you'd then have a trio of colors between your carpet, seats, and panels.

[MDSheds_SS]

Looks like an EZ Lip on the front like my car. Adds 5 RWHP. I measured on my ass dyno. Good luck with the build.

[LS1ow]

Peanut butter.

The issue I'd see is you'd then have a trio of colors between your carpet, seats, and panels.

Panels would be swapped out for my black ones if anything.

Looks like an EZ Lip on the front like my car. Adds 5 RWHP. I measured on my ass dyno. Good luck with the build.

thanks !

[LS1ow]

Scored a LS6 intake and P&P TB last night for a steal.

1 piece down, many more to go

[NJ Torque]

I has a procharger kit that'll mount to the brackets in your front bumper there friend...

[PolarBear]

I have some 241 heads if you're interested, probably some other stuff too

[LS1ow]

I has a procharger kit that'll mount to the brackets in your front bumper there friend...

I wish, but i cant budge that right now. and i want to stick to all motor with this.

I have some 241 heads if you're interested, probably some other stuff too


Heads ive already sourced, but let me know if youve got some other stuff. Im going to post up a list of things shortly

[LS1ow]

Ok so i took about 10 mins to come up with a quick list of the things i need to get for the car, im sure theres stuff missing, so if anyone thinks of anything, post it up !

Heads(already sourced, just need to pick up:nick:)
Cam(Buying New)
Valve Spring Kit(New)
Oil Pump(New)
LS1 Shortblock(possibly found, but still looking)
Trans (4L60e)
Converter (New)
Lifters (already ordered from GM)
Timing Chain (already ordered from GM)
TQ Arm for Auto
Trans X Member for Auto
Coolant Hoses
MAF
Battery
Gas Tank
Fuel Pump (new)
Injectors
Fuel Rails
Hardware for engine assembly(ARP new)
Automatic Pedal Assembly(:bertstare:)
Plastic thingy that PCM mounts into
PCM(Sourced, just need to get)
Harness(Sourced, just need to get)
Fluids
Head Gaskets
Other Misc Gaskets


anything else ????

[Jersey Mike]

You're really not going to buy a new battery? If not, I have an old Interstate in the shed that you can have. Take it to work & test it.

[LS1ow]

You're really not going to buy a new battery? If not, I have an old Interstate in the shed that you can have. Take it to work & test it.

I figured i didnt have to state a new battery.

Do you have any coolant and used oil i can test out too mike ? :kneeslap:

[Blackbirdws6]

Missing decals and some form of FI.

[MDSheds_SS]

If it's a t56 car you will need a dash harness from n auto car as well as some type of plate to cover the hole from the t56 shifter. Only the rear 2 bolts will line up and the front of the shifter will hang down into the hole.

[Jersey Mike]

I figured i didnt have to state a new battery. :facepalm: I figured it's you. Very plausible give your track history :rofl:

Do you have any coolant and used oil i can test out too mike ? :kneeslap:
This is not outside the realm of possibility either... :bertstare:

[LS1ow]

If it's a t56 car you will need a dash harness from n auto car as well as some type of plate to cover the hole from the t56 shifter. Only the rear 2 bolts will line up and the front of the shifter will hang down into the hole.

Dont tell me this.

I knew about the plate to cover the hole, but i have not heard anything about the dash harness needing to be switched as well.

thats a whole can of worms i did not want to get into.

[MDSheds_SS]

I opened that can of worms and this is how I closed it... http://a65.tinypic.com/2m3r68o.jpg

Bought a auto roller and swapped the motor/trans 4L60e

[sweetbmxrider]

Why the dash harness? For the tcc lock/unlock? And neutral safety?

[MDSheds_SS]

There is a way around it but it's defunity not plug and play.

[MDSheds_SS]

Why the dash harness? For the tcc lock/unlock? And neutral safety?

I don't remember 100% of all the issues, I just know my father and I traced wires for a few days before we got it started. Having the dash harness makes it plug and play and much earlier/cleaner IMO.

[LS1ow]

There is a way around it but it's defunity not plug and play.

That is what im going to have to look into then.

I dont want to go T56.

I dont make making a couple harnesses and repins, thats fine with me.


Id prob be more incline to go with a TH350 than a T56

[Punkmaster 98]

looks like a sweet project :)

[LS1ow]

Jokes on me.

Pretty sure car doesnt have a dash harness in it. I just remembered looking were the PCM sits and there being an open space on the firewall behind it.

Looks like ill be getting a Auto dash harness after all

[LS1ow]

Plot Twist.

I checked again last night and upon inspection, there were connectors shoved inside the firewall. I also pulled the radio area faceplate off and there was wires going to the foglamp n Traction switch.

Anyone got a pic of what the dash harness plugs look like just so i can confirm?

[qwikz28]

Beggs: Do you need coils? I have truck coils I'm not using.

[LS1ow]

Beggs: Do you need coils? I have truck coils I'm not using.

I do jake lol

[LS1ow]

First round of parts ordered.

picking up some parts from FRIENDS this week/weekend

[LS1ow]

Pile has started.

[Blackbirdws6]

Intake needs more character!

[LS1ow]

Intake needs more character!

oh it will my friend... it certainly will.

[LTb1ow]

Glove over TB opening, intake ports open.

:bertstare:

[LS1ow]

Glove over TB opening, intake ports open.

:bertstare:


intake was wrapped up prior to pic. With glove on it. Currently all wrapped up again.


Kohler i need a part from your car. I already have parts from adam and kirk:nick:

[LS1ow]

since i have no self control i needed to do this.

I currently have a LS6 intake and P&P TB for my car, the BLS in me wants to spend the extra $ and go with a FAST right out the box, but with the heads i will be running on the car the extra money for the fast would be better applied to something else. Like actually having an engine. :-?

So in an effort to prevent me from selling my LS6 for less than i paid for it and spending an additional $900 on a intake and TB....

ARTS & CRAFTS !

:usa: :usa: :usa:

[Jersey Mike]

Oh this should be good :popcorn:

[MDSheds_SS]

I just finished doing my Fast because I didn't like the factory grey color. Used high temp semi-gloss grill paint. http://a67.tinypic.com/mawkdg.jpg

[sweetbmxrider]

Good progress, 5 stars, wait its the same as this morning :-?

[LS1ow]

I just finished doing my Fast because I didn't like the factory grey color. Used high temp semi-gloss grill paint.

way to make me feel bad about my self with that set up ! looks beautiful !

Good progress, 5 stars, wait its the same as this morning :-?

Primed on my lunch with high filler plastic primer. should smooth it out at a bit.

[MDSheds_SS]

Thanks man, to bad its sitting on my pool table and not under my hood where it belongs.

[LS1ow]

so heres what ive been up to after work during the week.


before we continue, yes, i know the threaded holes werent masked, every bolt hole will be cleaned and chased before being put together, so no worries(Mike)

After 2 coats of adhesion promoter and high fill primer

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/EB533309-B528-4393-919A-C39D18A2BF48_zpsvjqfqxf5.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/EB533309-B528-4393-919A-C39D18A2BF48_zpsvjqfqxf5.jpg.html)

glossy white

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/A508033C-A934-4AEE-B751-9F6548E55373_zps37tebwjv.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/A508033C-A934-4AEE-B751-9F6548E55373_zps37tebwjv.jpg.html)

little red action

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/BF3C736D-4111-4609-87F6-756782B7E6E3_zpsekfjasgp.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/BF3C736D-4111-4609-87F6-756782B7E6E3_zpsekfjasgp.jpg.html)

starting to look like something now...
http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/70F7EE9E-4F8B-4239-A329-ECC9E2A3B59C_zpsphmvlecl.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/70F7EE9E-4F8B-4239-A329-ECC9E2A3B59C_zpsphmvlecl.jpg.html)


final product :usa:

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/380366C4-749C-4653-A8AC-A80BF5349AD9_zpscth9chob.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/380366C4-749C-4653-A8AC-A80BF5349AD9_zpscth9chob.jpg.html)

[LS1ow]

Did it come out perfect? absolutely not. But its going to be tucked under a cowl and in the hood so im okay with it. the High fill primer worked, but it didnt completely eliminate the "grainy" surface of the manifold, so the tape lines arent perfect. but there good. If i was jersey mike, i would have sanded it till smooth and then done it, but im not. :bertstare:


Im pretty satisfied with it. It seems pretty strong so i dont think itll chip or flake, but well see. If it does ill strip it and buy a FAST

[sweetbmxrider]

Fuggin love ittttttttttttt

[ar0ck]

Absolutely love it:usa::usa:

[Jersey Mike]

You've come a long way from that #rogue life

[Blackbirdws6]

Came out great!!!

[LS1ow]

Thanks for all the love guys. I'm actually gunna finish this car I promise!

[Jersey Mike]

I'm actually gunna finish this car I promise!

Remember, Paul is lurking in the shadows

[sweetbmxrider]

You've come a long way from that #rogue life

That option was on the table brah

[MDSheds_SS]

Looks great man, much more detail then semi-gloss black like i did.

[LS1ow]

Looks great man, much more detail then semi-gloss black like i did.

Wanna trade ???? :-P:mrgreen::mrgreen:

[NJ Torque]

Looks great. Wanna paint my FAST that way? Lol.

[The_Bishop]

I'll do it for you! But be advised, custom paint makes a FAST look a *lot* like an LS6 intake with custom paint.

;)

[LS1ow]

Looks great. Wanna paint my FAST that way? Lol.

i wouldnt be apposed to doing more, but someone as mechanically capable as yourself would have no issue doing this.

I'll do it for you! But be advised, custom paint makes a FAST look a *lot* like an LS6 intake with custom paint.

;)



especially after if its shaved

[LS1ow]

Minor update:


Pushed the car up the street from my house to my garage so i can start doing some stuff.

This week ill get the 6 speed stuff(Pedals, master, console, ect) out of the car and throw the A4 pedals in while im there. Still looking for a A4 center console if anyone got.

Also, i like the look of LT1 tails over LS1 tails so i scored a set of nicely tinted LT1 tails from Adam with a hand off from BLS, threw those on.

I swapped out the berger for a satin black one i had from a past car. I want to preserve the NBM one. Also Kirk was nice enough to gift me a gloss black one, so ill be tossing that on shortly just to compare how i like Blue vs Gloss vs Satin.


Didnt really "Clean" the car, but i hosed off the dust and dirt. Really like this color, and it looks purple in certain light which is perfect:bertstare:

Besides the huge cut out front grill area for the intercooler of past, theres a lot of spider cracks and what not, so ill have my eyes peeled for a NBM front bumper for the right price. If not ill deal with it.

Pics !

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/8F817A97-1980-4E0C-9A70-9EEECC114AE2_zpsuzngyh3o.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/8F817A97-1980-4E0C-9A70-9EEECC114AE2_zpsuzngyh3o.jpg.html)

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/6466818B-379F-4197-8F9E-1F11A8C9B621_zpsdhfncdfi.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/6466818B-379F-4197-8F9E-1F11A8C9B621_zpsdhfncdfi.jpg.html)

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/F5428E5E-D5D9-421F-825F-9B028137C54F_zpsrmbzjfl3.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/F5428E5E-D5D9-421F-825F-9B028137C54F_zpsrmbzjfl3.jpg.html)

[sweetbmxrider]

I feel like I'm going to prefer the gloss black panel. NBM looks good. What's up with the chin spoiler?

[LS1ow]

I feel like I'm going to prefer the gloss black panel. NBM looks good. What's up with the chin spoiler?

It looks to be one of them stick on ez lips.

Im not sure how i like it. I like the look of the chin spoiler, but id rather it be something like the 6LE one. But due to budgeting and priorities, im going to keep it for now. maybe even redo it with the EZ lip so it looks better.

[Blackbirdws6]

The big open grill just embraces the catfish moniker. Let me know when you are ready to cherry it properly.

[LS1ow]

The big open grill just embraces the catfish moniker. Let me know when you are ready to cherry it properly.

as in detail it ? or fill the catfish mouth with a intercooler properly?

[sweetbmxrider]

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/565/679/781.png

[Blackbirdws6]

as in detail it ? or fill the catfish mouth with a intercooler properly?

Cherry = detail

[Jersey Mike]

Cherry = detail

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7357/9408523843_c8483a71e0_b.jpg

[sweetbmxrider]

That is some nice detail :nod:

[LS1ow]

Removing the 6 speed pedal assembly is not fun.

at all.

[The_Bishop]

If you want to part ways with the 6 speed pedals, console, etc. let me know.

[sweetbmxrider]

If you want to part ways with the 6 speed pedals, console, etc. let me know.

Too slow, Junior. :wink:

But I'm not taking the console.....and he's looking for an a4 console.....

[LS1ow]

If you want to part ways with the 6 speed pedals, console, etc. let me know.

Too slow, Junior. :wink:

But I'm not taking the console.....and he's looking for an a4 console.....

Adam got the 6 speed pedals in trade for his Auto Set up.

If your swapping your car to 6 speed and would be willing to swap out your A4 console for my M6 console id be okay with that

[BonzoHansen]

Adam, is that pedal for that 2nd gen you mentioned?

[sweetbmxrider]

Adam, is that pedal for that 2nd gen you mentioned?

Nah, for my imagination at the moment :lol: Why, don't fit 2nd gens?

[BonzoHansen]

No. just use a second gen pedal. They came with clutches too lol

[sweetbmxrider]

No. just use a second gen pedal. They came with clutches too lol

Fair enough. Might buy an auto car/truck so wanna have swap parts at the ready :)

[LS1ow]

Fuel Rails and Billet coil brackets showed up yesterday.


Fuel rails look pretty awesome.

Coil brackets look solid, but the finish is pretty weird. Like it has some form of clear on it and its fading. Going to try to polish em later today.

Pics tonight

[Jersey Mike]

Coil pack brackets? Did you get non-OEM ones or something?

[LS1ow]

Picked up my fuel tank at atco. As far as a pump goes ill most likely be running a wally 255 in the factory bucket, but while the tank is on the work bench i have some questions.

There is a ton of nonsense on this thing. What do i not need/can i cap off/delete?

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/8728B4BA-811D-4DC8-A37D-B553F4F4B271_zpsscj3zhrs.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/8728B4BA-811D-4DC8-A37D-B553F4F4B271_zpsscj3zhrs.jpg.html)

[sweetbmxrider]

That's all evap **** mounted to the tank. If you are deleting codes in computer, sawzall everything in half. Run a simple carb fuel filter on the evap line coming out of the tank/sending unit.

[LS1ow]

Coil pack brackets? Did you get non-OEM ones or something?

No, OEM coils. But i would need to buy factory coil brackets anyway bc i dont have them. so i figured may as well have 1 shiny thing on car.

[LS1ow]

That's all evap **** mounted to the tank. If you are deleting codes in computer, sawzall everything in half. Run a simple carb fuel filter on the evap line coming out of the tank/sending unit.

pics?


and what you mean deleting stuff from computer?

Im going to run a LS6 Valley-Catch Can-Throttle Body. Breather filter on the driver side valve cover and blocked off vents on passenger cover along with a filter in place of a oil cap. very similar to how Kirk is running his.

So what to do with all the EVAP mumbojumbo?

[LS1ow]

Like so ?

[sweetbmxrider]

Should work. Delete codes from computer.....

[LS1ow]

Should work. Delete codes from computer.....

Tuner can handle said duties ?

[MDSheds_SS]

If you are still looking for valve covers, if you want my wrinkle red covers for $100 they are yours. Powder coated not spray paint. They should fit your coil brackets. If not mine are gloss black and you can have them with the covers.

[LS1ow]

If you are still looking for valve covers, if you want my wrinkle red covers for $100 they are yours. Powder coated not spray paint. They should fit your coil brackets. If not mine are gloss black and you can have them with the covers.

I went back and forth with it and decided that the money I would spend n them would be better applied elsewhere.

Fancy things can come after the car starts !

[sweetbmxrider]

Tuner can handle said duties ?

:bertstare:

[The_Bishop]

Adam got the 6 speed pedals in trade for his Auto Set up.

If your swapping your car to 6 speed and would be willing to swap out your A4 console for my M6 console id be okay with that

Without the rest of the parts... I'd be stuck with no center console.

Also... DAMN YOU ADAM.

[sweetbmxrider]

Hey, things can be traded for monies :D

[LS1ow]

Without the rest of the parts... I'd be stuck with no center console.

Also... DAMN YOU ADAM.

well in the event you get the other stuff and need the console just let me know. Rather just drop it off to you instead of ship it to some rando in Utah off tech.

[LS1ow]

Here is my solution to ballin' valve covers not being cost effective at this time.

$7 can of VHT Wrinkle black and $38 billet coil brackets

Not as "Wrinkley" as a power job would be, but it like it better than just flat black. Its deff got some texture to it.

Ive painted small parts on my jeep with it before. What i did was follow the instructions on the can. Which is 3 heavy coats one right after another. 1 coat side to side, 1 coat up and down, and 1 coat on a a diagonal. It goes on smooth and when it cures it get the texture. The 3 direction coating makes it wrinkle in a few directions, thus a better finish.

I threw them in the oven for 20 mins @ 200 right after laying the paint down.

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/327B127F-4821-43DB-9FE2-D145BCE09086_zpsu2d19fq3.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/327B127F-4821-43DB-9FE2-D145BCE09086_zpsu2d19fq3.jpg.html)

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/6B6C6529-C646-4ABB-9366-A763D3BBB49E_zpsl10ogumf.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/6B6C6529-C646-4ABB-9366-A763D3BBB49E_zpsl10ogumf.jpg.html)

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/DB86B630-529B-46B0-A923-9E2B777917C8_zpsrihkp6sj.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/DB86B630-529B-46B0-A923-9E2B777917C8_zpsrihkp6sj.jpg.html)

[Blackbirdws6]

VC's came out pretty good. Are you running the stock coils or another OE version? Just curious.

[LS1ow]

VC's came out pretty good. Are you running the stock coils or another OE version? Just curious.

Stock coils as of now. Unless i can find something else.

[KirkEvil]

Valve covers came out great knowing what they looked like before that haha. Since you bought those coil brackets, looks like you have no choice but to run ls1 style coils

[LS1ow]

Valve covers came out great knowing what they looked like before that haha. Since you bought those coil brackets, looks like you have no choice but to run ls1 style coils

haha yeah they were pretty bad. Parts cleaner sink at work and a scotch brite helped em out a bunch.

[The_Bishop]

Hey, things can be traded for monies :D

So, is monopoly monies sufficient?

:mrgreen:

[The_Bishop]

well in the event you get the other stuff and need the console just let me know. Rather just drop it off to you instead of ship it to some rando in Utah off tech.

Ok, thanks. Will keep it in mind.

[LS1ow]

Its time to get rid of the huge ugly box in my engine bay.

from the start of this project i knew AC wasnt going to make its way into the car, so let the games begin.


Obviously the "book" way to do its to pull the dash out and remove it from the inside and then mount the plate from the inside. I, do not want to do that. But i will if absolutely needed. Ive seen a ton of pictures of ones that look like they are mounted from the outside though.

like so.

http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/29353371540.jpg

Most of images are missing from those threads so i cant be sure how it was done, but from the looks of it and reading some of it im 95% sure they AC box was cut back to the firewall, a template was made and cut. and then it was bolted up to the firewall from the outside(i would image with some sort of bead of sealer on it as well)

That is what i want to do.

Im also not 100% dead set to have heat in the car, but from the looks of it all i really need is 2 heater hoses and a vacuum line to come threw the panel. Like this, seems simple enough.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m129/the_merv/ACDELETEPANEL.jpg (http://s103.photobucket.com/user/the_merv/media/ACDELETEPANEL.jpg.html)

Anyone do it this way? or am i the only heathen whos giant hands dont like working with interior things?

[LS1ow]

I quick hunt on the internet provided me results.

Looks like this grade A american did exacting what i want to do.

1.Trimmed it back to the firewall from the outside
(im very good at cutting things, you guys should know this by now)

2. Trimmed a path for the air to get to the blower motor, and then covered the cuts in bubble gum.

3. Cut out a a piece of metal and blocked it off from the outside.

http://ls1tech.com/forums/attachments/lt1-lt4-modifications/284107d1299799980-deleting-c-box-but-keeping-heat-how-11310-22-.jpg

http://ls1tech.com/forums/attachments/lt1-lt4-modifications/284108d1299799980-deleting-c-box-but-keeping-heat-how-11310-25-.jpg

Id like to do the same exact thing, except id like my template to look a bit more "refined." Maybe even let Jersey Mike spend 34 man hours polishing it

[Jersey Mike]

If memory serves me right, there are bolts on both the engine bay side and the dash side. The box is removed through the interior, so the dash must be removed.

I strongly advise against hax0rs & urge you to show a little restraint. Besides, think of the weight reduction! There are nice delete plates out there as well. I think Kohler has one.


*edit*
Peep size. #dotherightthing

[sweetbmxrider]

Just do the hack. You can hammer the bitch off. Throw some nice looking self tappers through etc. It'll look fine man.

[LTb1ow]

Go to Home Depot, buy the longest most aggressive tooth patterned sawzall blade and chop that bitch out.

I made my first delete plate out of plexiglass #safety

[LS1ow]

I would be making my own plate regardless of inside or outside mounting.

[LS1ow]

If memory serves me right, there are bolts on both the engine bay side and the dash side. The box is removed through the interior, so the dash must be removed.

I strongly advise against hax0rs & urge you to show a little restraint. Besides, think of the weight reduction! There are nice delete plates out there as well. I think Kohler has one.


*edit*
Peep size. #dotherightthing

You only have 3 restraining moments on this built. Let me remind you this car still has door bars, bumper supports, a carpet, and non cut shock towers.

Cash in wisely.

[ar0ck]

If memory serves me right, there are bolts on both the engine bay side and the dash side. The box is removed through the interior, so the dash must be removed.

I strongly advise against hax0rs & urge you to show a little restraint. Besides, think of the weight reduction! There are nice delete plates out there as well. I think Kohler has one.


*edit*
Peep size. #dotherightthing

I also second removing the dash and just ditching the whole system. The dash comes out pretty quickly. I've done two myself.

[Jersey Mike]

You only have 3 restraining moments on this built. Let me remind you this car still has door bars, bumper supports, a carpet, and non cut shock towers.

Cash in wisely.

Proceed at will.

I fold this hand.

[Blackbirdws6]

Shuddering at pulling dash pad without cracking it.

[LS1ow]

Shuddering at pulling dash pad without cracking it.

Pretty much. I know if I try to take it out and it cracks I'm going to lose motivation and just cut it off at the wall anyway

[ar0ck]

Shuddering at pulling dash pad without cracking it.

Call Paul, he's your guy!

[KirkEvil]

Remove the dash. If you're making the delete plate yourself the cut edges and finish will be better hidden installing it from the inside. Just take your time lifting the dash pad, ls1 pads aren't that hard to remove. Keep heat for the defroster. The block off plate blocks the air passage to the blower, so you will need to cut a path and make a sheet metal block off to close the interior cut...or body filler like the pics you posted. I think I had a bunch of pics in an old thread here doing all this

Found it
http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showpost.php?p=719944&postcount=49

[sweetbmxrider]

I have his old hvac box.....no block off plate though.

I still vote smash and block. You can cover the ugly firewall nonsense!

[LS1ow]

Me: Do it right for this project
Also Me: Fire up that wiz wheel and get to it


https://muppetmindset.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/4d902-mmwtrailer5.png

[sweetbmxrider]

A wizzy wheel is the right thing to do.....


https://media.giphy.com/media/FPt4fI9BvUOXu/giphy.gif

[LS1ow]

While looking threw my garage last night for intake bolts for jersey mike, i decided to remove the charcoal can and misc from tank.

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/D7A623F5-EF6F-434E-BFCF-09597D20CEF4_zpsw4nszuzs.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/D7A623F5-EF6F-434E-BFCF-09597D20CEF4_zpsw4nszuzs.jpg.html)

Just to make it easier i threw some tape on the ports.

Asking again to be sure, the ports that are taped with the Blue tape are to be blocked off, and the port taped with the light green tape is to be vented to atmosphere via a small vent valve air filter. Correct ?

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/59ED4FF7-26FD-4958-B8BD-4B1F0143D1F9_zpsxqxju5ia.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/59ED4FF7-26FD-4958-B8BD-4B1F0143D1F9_zpsxqxju5ia.jpg.html)

[BonzoHansen]

Why eliminate evap?

[sweetbmxrider]

Green tape is over-pressure relief valve. Looks like its just a hose that runs off of that and points towards ground. Blue tape you can plug or loop, its evap ports. There is an additional port on the sending unit for evap. Plug or vent, your choice. Technically the green tape valve should relieve pressure from tank.

[LS1ow]

Why eliminate evap?


simply cus the car doesnt have any of the lines in it.

The previous owner had a cell in it.

[LS1ow]

Lets talk cruise control/Traction Control delete.

Is it as easy as just removing all the junk under the hood and getting a throttle cable from a non cruise car ? Not that im super crazy about cleaning up the engine bay, but its never going to be used. so i may as well toss it.

[Jersey Mike]

More or less, yeah.
Box is on the passenger side frame rail. New non-TCS cable is shorter. Attach all the things. Remove annoying bulb for TCS light in gauge cluster.

It would be a little obnoxious if you eliminated A/C but kept TCS/Cruise.

[LS1ow]

More or less, yeah.
Box is on the passenger side frame rail. New non-TCS cable is shorter. Attach all the things. Remove annoying bulb for TCS light in gauge cluster.

It would be a little obnoxious if you eliminated A/C but kept TCS/Cruise.

Nice. Wasnt sure if there was more to it than eliminate and get new cable. And im thinking tuner, or at least nishan, should be able to remove the signal for the light.


And yeah, i planned on scrapping the TCS/Cruise the whole time, but i just wanted to get everything in order before i was to rip it out and toss it only to find i needed something.

[sweetbmxrider]

It might be an led bulb but def easier to remove that then tune it out as I don't think that exists. Didn't I give you a throttle cable too? That should work.

[LS1ow]

It might be an led bulb but def easier to remove that then tune it out as I don't think that exists. Didn't I give you a throttle cable too? That should work.

Ya you did, i forgot lol Ill wonder if itll work on a LS application.



SooOooOooo.... about that ABS:bertstare:

[sweetbmxrider]

Yeah I think they buy those cables to delete tcs

[LS1ow]

Yeah I think they buy those cables to delete tcs

judging by what ive read it looks to be that way. Thanks again adam

[LS1ow]

this isnt going to be addressed anytime soon, but obviously just as any camaro owner, im looking to swap out the flat Z wing for something else. While i do love the SS spoiler, everyone has one. I did have the freedom designs big honkin duckbill on 1 of my cars, but its just to much i think. And im not a fan of the lines on the 3 piece RS body kit spoiler, and that 6LE aggressive spoiler is to much imo. I dont like how its notched in the middle.

So i stumbled upon this.

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13625391_1659916227657340_7870442132690941579_n.jp g?oh=a084356361b02b47506639aecdcee567&oe=58B5A7A2

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14199777_1659916100990686_8357681007705485559_n.jp g?oh=207d33a5d9a533bb9abef361aaef9097&oe=58B532B4

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14225353_1659915804324049_5871663020320885581_n.jp g?oh=47147423f7ca9a8e32132b2d1ad9b37d&oe=58B87D39

Has anyone ever seen this before? the Z07 packages come with a similar wickerbill set up, and im not sure if the ZL1/Z28 does as well. But ive deff never seen anything like it on a 4th gen.

What im really concerned with is how its mounted. If its only those few bolts i dont see this thing lasting at speeds more than 100.

what do you guys think?

[sweetbmxrider]

Different? Yes. Feeling it? Not particularly. Its a cool idea but it doesn't flow/finish right to my eyes.

[LTb1ow]

Your car won't go faster than 100mph, don't need more then self tappers in that bad boy.

Initial thought on it, is mehhh, but, it def could grow on me.

[Jersey Mike]

That hardware is a deal breaker.

[Blackbirdws6]

At first glance, not feeling it but maybe it would look better on another color car. It needs more curve IMO to fit the body style.

[LS1ow]

I found the guy that made it on fb. Send him a message.

From stalking his pics it looks like an early version, he has a pic with a watermark across it that looks like a improved version that has curve to it.

[sweetbmxrider]

The pic isn't loading for me.....Could always throw black hardware at it if that is a deal breaker....

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

I think if it is curved a bit more, on a darker colored car that's visually similar to Alex's old Z (lowered, road race vibe, etc.) it would look sweet. Not doing it for me with that setup in the photo.

[LS1ow]

I think if it is curved a bit more, on a darker colored car that's visually similar to Alex's old Z (lowered, road race vibe, etc.) it would look sweet. Not doing it for me with that setup in the photo.

Thats the look i plan on having when the car is in street trim:nick:


Heres the other pic i was talkin about, looks a little more "Fitted" to the car.

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14317361_128540234268580_1259597373600505845_n.jpg ?oh=07915ec0936a0734730bca68734ac706&oe=58CF5BD1


Also, found that they are $285 plus shipping each. Which is insane considering its 2 pieces of plastic.

[sweetbmxrider]

:rofl::rofl::rofl: Dat R&D time doe....

[LS1ow]

:rofl::rofl::rofl: Dat R&D time doe....

Yeah lol

I messaged him about how its mounted, hopefully he spills the beans so i can just improve upon it and come up with my own

[Blackbirdws6]

Also, found that they are $285 plus shipping each. Which is insane considering its 2 pieces of plastic.

This is how someone starts a business.....

[sweetbmxrider]

Might be nutserts? But you need a tool to do that.....def self tappers

[Jersey Mike]

Just do a Sunoco clone and be done with it :lol:

[LS1ow]

Might be nutserts? But you need a tool to do that.....def self tappers


i thought of that. But even so i cant imagine it being that strong due to it just being into fiberglass or whatever the wing is made of. And i actually do have the the tool. My Jeeps LED bar brackets for above the roof used nutserts, and the tool was included

[sweetbmxrider]

Yeah I agree, maybe dzus rails? Nothing makes sense :lol:

Just make something!

[Blackbirdws6]

Big piece of lexan, find friend with machinery, wrap in vinyl and ta da!

[LS1ow]

Yeah I agree, maybe dzus rails? Nothing makes sense :lol:

Just make something!

Wheels are turning in my brain.:nick:

Big piece of lexan, find friend with machinery, wrap in vinyl and ta da!

was thinking aluminum

[Blackbirdws6]

If you has the skill or resources, do it!

[ar0ck]

I approve

[LS1ow]

This is what I got from the guy, let me know If any o you can make sense of this.

Thanks bro ! It all happen for the love of my car lol. Yeah I have a website where u can order it and it's simple to install. On your since it would be on the track I'll send u the bolts that are on that picture basically when u take off the spoiler there a hole on each corner and u basically install the bolts so to tighten it would be with a rachet so it's your standard heavy duty bolt and lock seal nut. . Same with the middle bolts. Basiclyy on the middle ones you unscrew the screw that holds the light in place and u get a drill bit the size of the bolt and drill threw it. Make a pre-made hold on the bottom so u can insert the nut and I give u seals to cover up that hole and that's pretty much it.

[Blackbirdws6]

Looks like you should invest....... wow

[LS1ow]

I know I have the grammar of a 7th grader but dude, I can't comprehend what he's putting down

[sweetbmxrider]

When you pull the spoiler off, there are two big holes between the mounting studs. Driver side has 3rd brake light wiring going through it. He wants you to drill holes for his spoiler mounting hardware then use those existing holes and the 3rd brake light hole in the center to tighten it all up. I fear sounds of snap, crackle, and pop :rofl:

[LS1ow]

When you pull the spoiler off, there are two big holes between the mounting studs. Driver side has 3rd brake light wiring going through it. He wants you to drill holes for his spoiler mounting hardware then use those existing holes and the 3rd brake light hole in the center to tighten it all up. I fear sounds of snap, crackle, and pop :rofl:

I feared the same. I tought it would crack the wing when i tightened it but he swears its fine.

Waiting on pics of how its mounted

[sweetbmxrider]

Make your own and make it internet famous

[Jersey Mike]

Make your own and make it internet famous

This man gets it. #Allt3hNostalgias

[LS1ow]

Make your own and make it internet famous

After i saw the price tag there was zero intention of actually purchasing and all the intentions of producing

[Blackbirdws6]

Make it, have hydrodipped in america/bald eagles, profit.

[Jersey Mike]

Make it, have hydrodipped in america/bald eagles, profit.

@KBMotorsports

[LS1ow]

@KBMotorsports

rather finger paint it myself.

[sweetbmxrider]

Ahhh, stealing intelligence. Excellent! Rogue status on the table????

[LS1ow]

Front wheels are here. Picked up a full set of the grey metallic race starts during there black friday sale.

17x4.5 fronts and 15x10 rears.

Rear wheels wont be here till the mid december due to a backorder but whatever.

Any one run 17" skinnies and have advice on tires? The wheel set up wont be daily driven on, but will be driven to and from(god willingly) the track with them on.

also ran on a the street for a few of them late night business meetings.

[LS1ow]

Fancy Fancy


http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/100595DC-0589-4012-B72A-0E9A8EF0AEE5_zpsryycrvmu.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/100595DC-0589-4012-B72A-0E9A8EF0AEE5_zpsryycrvmu.jpg.html)

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/5D9F2712-8273-4E86-9636-532A000E8985_zpscshehc3f.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/5D9F2712-8273-4E86-9636-532A000E8985_zpscshehc3f.jpg.html)

[sweetbmxrider]

Did you lick the center cap? I see water spots....

[Jersey Mike]

Fat kids sweat. Leave him alone.

[Blackbirdws6]

He is just keeping things cherry

[LS1ow]

It's got a clear film over it that needs to be peeled

[Blackbirdws6]

Got em

[LS1ow]

Got em

Peeling off that gel like film is going to be the best part of the whole build

[LS1ow]

More black friday purchases have showed up.

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/74123343-B85B-4FA5-9EFD-F03649236B9F_zpsvjg1dql8.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/74123343-B85B-4FA5-9EFD-F03649236B9F_zpsvjg1dql8.jpg.html)



Still waiting on a total of 3 more boxes(2 of which are the rear drag wheels)

[Jersey Mike]

http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/300/b6/b6e2daff-ec0d-4d0d-aff3-3035067b453b_300.jpg

[KirkEvil]

There is a lack of haxors in this thread. I am disappoint

[Jersey Mike]

There is a lack of haxors in this thread. I am disappoint

I'm working on it :wink: Will influence as much as possible. Cake where applicable.

[LS1ow]

There is a lack of haxors in this thread. I am disappoint

Mick Beggs Vs HVAC at Haxormania is coming.

[LS1ow]

-got the email from racestar, rear wheels have been shipped so they should be here sometime this week :mrgreen:

-Pulled the fenders bumper and hood of the car. Originally i was just going to pull only the bumper in an effort to create more walking space around the car once i move it inside my garage. But then i figured the fenders are easy enough to pull so ill do those too so they dont get scratched and stuff, which lead to why not pull the hood for maximum work room as well. Hopefully by end of the weekend ill push it in the garage so i have heat to work in during these next few months. And Gramma Beggs gets her driveway back.

-Going to remove all the unneeded stuff from the bay such as cruise, HVAC and ABS and then hit it with some satin black.

-since the fenders and bumper are off im going to remove some weight. Nothing to extreme. I plan on leaving the shock towers whole but i will be removing some of the unneeded meat from behind the fenders and as well as removing the front bumper support in favor of a tubular unit that ill fab up.

[The_Bishop]

Out comes the whizz wheel and the sawsall!

[Jersey Mike]

-Pulled the fenders bumper and hood of the car. ... the fenders are easy enough to pull so ill do those too so they dont get scratched and stuff, which lead to why not pull the hood for maximum work room as well.
:facepalm: Everything is easy to ruin remove. Enjoy working on those panel gaps.

-since the fenders and bumper are off im going to remove some weight. Nothing to extreme. I plan on leaving the shock towers whole but i will be removing some of the unneeded meat from behind the fenders and as well as removing the front bumper support in favor of a tubular unit that ill fab up.

This will save you maybe 20 pounds. Do you really think you're going to feel a huge benefit from that? Leave them on and pick up a copy of Atkins instead

[LS1ow]

:facepalm: Everything is easy to ruin remove. Enjoy working on those panel gaps.



This will save you maybe 20 pounds. Do you really think you're going to feel a huge benefit from that? Leave them on and pick up a copy of Atkins instead

Saves way more than 20. Closer to 50 after both fenders and the bumper support is gone. Tubular one should come in less than 5lbs and it's honestly only to keep the bumper from sagging

[LTb1ow]

I say chop shock towers out and tube the front end.

[Blackbirdws6]

I saw go tube chassis and save the steering wheel.

[LS1ow]

I say chop shock towers out and tube the front end.

I was at work for 6 hours today and looked up hacking the towers and tubing it out for 5 of them

[MDSheds_SS]

I shaved off a ton of weight with the lexan rear hatch.

[sweetbmxrider]

I hate Mike.

[LS1ow]

I shaved off a ton of weight with the lexan rear hatch.


I've been looking at that, maybe down the road. For now I'm going to do everything I can without digging into the wallet.

Any tips or tricks you did to your?

I hate Mike.

Same. He can keep the smooth driving perfect panel gap safe driving nonsense in his own thread !

[Jersey Mike]

:cry: :cry:

[MDSheds_SS]

I've been looking at that, maybe down the road. For now I'm going to do everything I can without digging into the wallet.

Any tips or tricks you did to your?



Same. He can keep the smooth driving perfect panel gap safe driving nonsense in his own thread !

Yea, dig into your wallet now and spend the money. Or find a guy like NJTORQUE and buy all his stuff @ 1/2 price.

[LS1ow]

Yea, dig into your wallet now and spend the money. Or find a guy like NJTORQUE and buy all his stuff @ 1/2 price.

Lmao! Well I meant some DIY weight reduction.


You run the lexan on the factory hatch ?

[MDSheds_SS]

I got the whole hatch with the lexan glass in it. I removed the impact bar, tubular k member, no power steering pump or AC. Other then that my car has everything else. I still have the heater box in for now. Didn't get to take it out yet.

[LS1ow]

I got the whole hatch with the lexan glass in it. I removed the impact bar, tubular k member, no power steering pump or AC. Other then that my car has everything else. I still have the heater box in for now. Didn't get to take it out yet.

How is it with no PS? My fox had an iron 351 in it and I didn't have PS and if wasn't that bad. I was on big and little all the time though. This car I'll have a normal wheel and tire set up on it mostly.

[MDSheds_SS]

Had the stock rack looped, with 4.5s, was fine for me. Now I have 3.5s and manual rack. I actually like the stock rack better so far.

[LS1ow]

Had the stock rack looped, with 4.5s, was fine for me. Now I have 3.5s and manual rack. I actually like the stock rack better so far.

ill be on 4.5 for the track and other misc things :bertstare:

but when its nice out and i wanna take it to work or something ill be on 17x9 ZR1s... not sure how thatll work without PS

[Blackbirdws6]

No PS Beggs 2017

http://recessionsolution.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Realistic-Popeye.jpg

[LS1ow]

i was thinking more http://www.onlike.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/030_roy_nelson.0.jpg

[LS1ow]

Pushed car into the shop yesterday. Gramma Beggs is a happy camper, she has her driveway back.

Didnt have any grinder disks left over from last project, so gotta stop at home depot today and get more so i can start.

Layed out a tape line of were im going to cut. Im going to remove the upper and outer part first, then tackle the wheel well portion of it.

Heres were i plan on cutting

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/29C8C7FF-EDA2-40EE-A43D-4CC222A7816C_zpss2up9zom.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/29C8C7FF-EDA2-40EE-A43D-4CC222A7816C_zpss2up9zom.jpg.html)

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/EABBB71B-94C8-401B-A4E5-B228D5FB4B87_zpsgqyiw9by.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/EABBB71B-94C8-401B-A4E5-B228D5FB4B87_zpsgqyiw9by.jpg.html)

[sweetbmxrider]

Neg that **** with pride buddy

[LS1ow]

Neg that **** with pride buddy

Progress has been made. Pics coming later

[LS1ow]

Got the top outer layer off.

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/4A06F828-07A5-4CBA-A208-4A8A494EE228_zps2f7sjgr9.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/4A06F828-07A5-4CBA-A208-4A8A494EE228_zps2f7sjgr9.jpg.html)


Made some relief cuts on the interal later so i can hit them down with a hammer so i have more room to get the wiz wheel in there.

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/9AA433CB-2166-4F57-9201-BCA67012BA85_zps4r8fyo6w.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/9AA433CB-2166-4F57-9201-BCA67012BA85_zps4r8fyo6w.jpg.html)

[LS1ow]

Removed the remaining sheet metal, this is were im at now.

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/FAC2104F-CF71-479A-878E-F2C7E35001CA_zpsn7mhiqtb.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/FAC2104F-CF71-479A-878E-F2C7E35001CA_zpsn7mhiqtb.jpg.html)

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/3F204507-A084-4D05-8CA0-4BD65463EB3B_zpshqw7xumy.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/3F204507-A084-4D05-8CA0-4BD65463EB3B_zpshqw7xumy.jpg.html)

[sweetbmxrider]

Love itttttt

[LS1ow]

Love itttttt

:mrgreen: