Not this again.

[Blackbirdws6]

Some men just want to do wheelies in the burnout box.

[LS1ow]

Some men just want to do wheelies in the burnout box.

Just wait for the shock towers to be tubed

[MDSheds_SS]

Can we get those pieces on a scale so we can see how much they weight.

[LS1ow]

Can we get those pieces on a scale so we can see how much they weight.

Im chubby so i dont like scales, they are mean.


But yes, once i get the driver side done ill throw all the pieces in a box and get em on a scale. Im guessing to come out around 10-12lbs each side since the way i cut is a little more extreme than some others. Some people are just using a 3" hole saw and swiss cheesing them to get 7-8lbs per side.

I know its really not much weight, and as negative Nancy Mike has said, its prob not worth the effort in you have perfectly aligned gaps and what not. But my fenders were coming off anyway, so when in rome i guess

[sweetbmxrider]

Weight removal over the front tires is great for burnout wheelies

[LTb1ow]

If you remove the front brakes you will be able to better burn outs.

#logic

[Blackbirdws6]

#ogfastnfuriouslogic.

[sweetbmxrider]

If you remove the front brakes you will be able to better burn outs.

#logic

Y not all brakes?

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Y not all brakes?

Pull chute every time you need to stop.

[LS1ow]

Ready to displease Jersey Mike, i mean lose some Lbs, on the driver side !

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/5C5CBAD3-1673-4E20-9384-15017DC12B65_zpsojk6p05n.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/5C5CBAD3-1673-4E20-9384-15017DC12B65_zpsojk6p05n.jpg.html)

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/B308C572-22AA-4ACF-BAAF-E7B1A3F424BE_zpsxegda0ad.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/B308C572-22AA-4ACF-BAAF-E7B1A3F424BE_zpsxegda0ad.jpg.html)

[LS1ow]

Whats all this funky stuff up here under the headlamp on the driver side?

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/AB684FAD-B8CC-46EE-98CE-CC7DE519293A_zpszwin7j2p.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/AB684FAD-B8CC-46EE-98CE-CC7DE519293A_zpszwin7j2p.jpg.html)

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/C5CE9082-0475-4AD0-AE6D-B360D0BDD1DA_zpsrwsc6rsd.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/C5CE9082-0475-4AD0-AE6D-B360D0BDD1DA_zpsrwsc6rsd.jpg.html)

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/46CCBE63-5E4C-4B4D-B89E-AE3DCC2DD428_zps2efvr5dp.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/46CCBE63-5E4C-4B4D-B89E-AE3DCC2DD428_zps2efvr5dp.jpg.html)

[sweetbmxrider]

First is evap, second looks like cruise, and third might be air pump related. **** can all of it.

[LS1ow]

https://www.baltimorecountymd.gov/sebin/b/p/trashcan.jpg

[sweetbmxrider]

http://www.dorminabox.com/image/cache/data/Products/89%20Recycling%20Container%2014%20quart-800x800.jpg

C'mon bro

[MDSheds_SS]

Is that strut tower brace holding the car together?

[LS1ow]

Is that strut tower brace holding the car together?

That and the K member

[sweetbmxrider]

And the rad support and integrity of the frame rails? And firewall and windshield?

[BonzoHansen]

Is that strut tower brace holding the car together?

dreams & bubble gum

[LS1ow]

Haters

[LS1ow]

Unrelated Question:


Battery is going in the trunk, if i go with an optima or other drycell i dont need a box correct ?

[MDSheds_SS]

http://a64.tinypic.com/2k1zsk.jpg
According to this link it need a to be in a box or sealed up.

[sweetbmxrider]

Moroso blue box! Or just get a baby lithium up front.

[LS1ow]

I know NHRA is NHRA, but i feel like no one had a issue passing tech with e BMR style battery mount. This true ??

Or does the Moroso boxes fit in the spare well/Ttop well? I dont want to build a firewall.

[sweetbmxrider]

I stuck mine dead center in the ttop well with no issues. Mounted my cut off on passenger frame rail, push pull style from summit.

[Jersey Mike]

I stuck mine dead center in the ttop well with no issues.

Can't remember. Was yours a T-Top car? If so, with a battery sitting in the TTop well, where did you store your TTops on nice weather days? ...Home?

[sweetbmxrider]

Wrapped in a towel and laid ever so gingerly in the back....

[LS1ow]

Perfect. Ordering it up today then.

[ar0ck]

I picked up the Summit battery kit, its a pretty good piece of kit, but you need to pick up a second thicker gauge wire to be NHRA legal. Pairing that with a flaming river switch, its all mocked up in my car, just not bolted down.

[sweetbmxrider]

Technically I still have mine but my buddy might want it? I dono, just get one. I ordered high quality 1/0 stereo wire off of ebay, like 50 feet, and ran the way I wanted to.

[LS1ow]

The wiring I'll be running myself once I get closer to firing day. I just want to start to get what I can situated.

After I finish weight reduction and swapping center consoles there's not much left for me to do besides little stuff like battery box and swapping carpets.


...until my motor and trans become available

[sweetbmxrider]

I've got the 4.8L you've always wanted ready for pick up!!!!

[LS1ow]

I've got the 4.8L you've always wanted ready for pick up!!!!

Dont make this turn into a boost build

[Jersey Mike]

Dont make this turn into a boost build

Boost-A-Beggs, Vol.2!? (http://njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59912) :nod:

[LS1ow]

Boost-A-Beggs, Vol.2!? (http://njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=59912) :nod:

I promise the same result.

[BonzoHansen]

I promise the same result.

http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af44/holyreimer/failboat.jpg

[LS1ow]

battery box and cut off switch ordered

[Jersey Mike]

Switch placement & ideas? You sticking with the traditional spare tire well route?

[LS1ow]

Switch placement & ideas? You sticking with the traditional spare tire well route?

If the box fits in the spare well I want it there, if it doesn't it's going in the Ttop well. Apparently it fits in the spare space, I guess it's a lot bigger than what I have in my head.

As for the cut off switch I will be going dead center of the Berger. I'm not really a fan of the push/pull rod, so I will be going with a traditional switch. And since I snapped the key off in the lock cyl and have to remove it anyway, I'm gunna run it there. I've seen it center on a few cars, Kohler's being one of them, and I like it.


No "to punish and enslave" sticker on mine though. Poll for which saying to put there instead will go live later in the build :bertstare:

[LTb1ow]

Get big wire and make good soldered/crimped connections.

[LS1ow]

Rear wheels finally showed up. As well as the stuff i ordered from jegs.

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/1C310FC7-3C83-4967-9D73-919D50B0EEC9_zpsiqu8mqsw.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/1C310FC7-3C83-4967-9D73-919D50B0EEC9_zpsiqu8mqsw.jpg.html)

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/EF398491-37AA-4FE7-9AB1-6A7E8953259D_zpsdzesur4d.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/EF398491-37AA-4FE7-9AB1-6A7E8953259D_zpsdzesur4d.jpg.html)

[Jersey Mike]

Are we done cutting yet?

[Blackbirdws6]

When do we see you race Firstbeer?

[BonzoHansen]

When do we see you race Firstbeer?

:lol::kneeslap::kneeslap::rofl::kneeslap::rofl:

[LS1ow]

Are we done cutting yet?

for now.

When do we see you race Firstbeer?

you think both our vehicles would ever be running at the same time ?

[Blackbirdws6]

you think both our vehicles would ever be running at the same time ?

Just make sure there is a big gulp in the exhaust on first start.

[Jersey Mike]

Can I hold the flashlight and look constipated!?

[LTb1ow]

When is first turbo kit ordered?

[LS1ow]

When is first turbo kit ordered?

Actually tried to on saturday but BLS, of all people, was voice of reason

[Jersey Mike]

Admittedly, I was egging him on.

[Blackbirdws6]

Actually tried to on saturday but BLS, of all people, was voice of reason

To clarify, I said you need to check with your build Engineer. I also would like to see this project get to a first start and successful pass vs forever build status.

[LS1ow]

To clarify, I said you need to check with your build Engineer. I also would like to see this project get to a first start and successful pass vs forever build status.

My build engineer scares me. i feel like this is his face whenever my name pops up in his phone

https://imgs-steps-dragoart-386112.c.cdn77.org/how-to-draw-the-no-rage-face-step-5_1_000000128645_5.gif

[Blackbirdws6]

We need someone good at photoshop.

[LS1ow]

Engine harness acquired.

New long tubes enroute.

Debating on ordering the catless Y as well or just having it done with the rest of my exhaust. Still up in the air on what to do.

1. Y to muffler Dumped before axle.
2. true duals with mufflers dumped before axle.
3. y to normal catback and just have a cut out for business

[sweetbmxrider]

I do love my stealth mode.....even though every cut out is a piece of ****

[Blackbirdws6]

Option 3. Kirk still have his rear section?

[MDSheds_SS]

ORY dumped before the axle, sounds good but does get annoying after awhile. I'm thinking of running full exhaust sooner then later

[LS1ow]

Option 3. Kirk still have his rear section?

im hoping so. thats kinda what i figured i would do if i opted for a full exhaust. Would prob swap bout Oval tips for normal tips, but that can be addressed later.

ORY dumped before the axle, sounds good but does get annoying after awhile. I'm thinking of running full exhaust sooner then later

I had dumps on my fox body(like every other fox body) and it got annoying after a while, but i also used to DD that box of poop. Most likely ill be taking your advice and going full out the back

[LTb1ow]

You know what makes dumps should great?

A turbo.

#justdoit

[LS1ow]

all in favor of fender exit....

[LS1ow]

all in favor of fender exit....

scratch that.

googled "camaro fender exit exhaust" and FFB's car was the 4th image. do not want

[LTb1ow]

scratch that.

googled "camaro fender exit exhaust" and FFB's car was the 4th image. do not want

I have always wanted a hood stack with flapper and on two step to shoot flames, but way to mainstream now. :cry:

[MDSheds_SS]

all in favor of fender exit....

I just bought a set of truck headers and plan to make bumper exit exhaust non turbo for OCMD2017 Just to add some wow factor to my block long burnouts.

[LS1ow]

I just bought a set of truck headers and plan to make bumper exit exhaust non turbo for OCMD2017 Just to add some wow factor to my block long burnouts.

I was trying to figure out how you would do a bumper exit with long tubes and couldnt think of any logical way to do it. Flipped truck manifolds will be perfect for it.

Maybe even merge it in front of the engine like and X pipe and dump out each side of the car :shock:

[Jersey Mike]

scratch that.

googled "camaro fender exit exhaust" and FFB's car was the 4th image. do not want

:barf:

[MDSheds_SS]

Shorty truck headers come with bungs for the 02s. Flip them and pipe it under the frame rail and out the bumper. X pipe will be a bit much going on I think. This will just be for show, actually just to be ridiculous... But don't believe any performance gains will be had.

[LS1ow]

all the noise

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i70/SicBastard/DSC01540.jpg

[LS1ow]

Besides the fact itll be a paint to get the car on a lift, i dont think my ride height will work well with these. kinda like em tho


http://ls1tech.com/forums/attachments/lt1-lt4-modifications/118629d1202017499-side-pipes-serious-side-exit.jpg

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Would look great with that wing you'll make and the road race vibe.

[Jersey Mike]

all the noise

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i70/SicBastard/DSC01540.jpg

Welp, at least he had the decency to put it all on the driver's side

[LS1ow]

anyone have a ls1/4L60e wiring harness diagram thats better than this one? Id like to label it all up nicey nice

http://lt1swap.com/stock_ls1.jpg

[Jersey Mike]

That's actually decent & should get you by even without adult supervision. Which connectors do you need clarity on?

[LTb1ow]

Its GM, nothing can plug into things it should not be plugged into...

[LS1ow]

That's actually decent & should get you by even without adult supervision. Which connectors do you need clarity on?

Mostly the 1 sticking out of the harness right about were the crank sensor is labeled.

Also, which side is bank 1 and bank 2 for the injectors.

other than that im good. I the 3 connectors by the PCM are those on the pass shock tower, and the other 2 "C" connectors are for the dash/body

[Jersey Mike]

Mostly the 1 sticking out of the harness right about were the crank sensor is labeled.
Purple gasket, pictured in between the metal cowl clip and the heat tape?
It's extra.
(J/K, will look when I get home)

Also, which side is bank 1 and bank 2 for the injectors.
:bertstare:

the 3 connectors by the PCM are those on the pass shock tower,
Si

and the other 2 "C" connectors are for the dash/body
See the grommet? Runs through the firewall.




Starting at the PCM on the passenger side, C100, C101 & C105 run over the passenger shock tower (be a doll & tuck them under the tower through the wheel well).
The foil tape drops down by the passenger header.

The remainder of the bulky portion of the harness runs along the underside of the cowl, behind the intake and motor. He's laid out the injectors section of the harness for you, respective to its proper side.

The IAT, MAD & all that you know.
The rest drop down from there.

[LS1ow]

one thing I noticed so far is that the alternator plug is MIA.

Also, on the "fuel rail" section of the harness, what are the extra plugs there? And the extra one by the knock sensor as well?

Looking at it on a computer with color does make it a lot easier. My work printer isn't color lol

[KirkEvil]

one thing I noticed so far is that the alternator plug is MIA.

Also, on the "fuel rail" section of the harness, what are the extra plugs there? And the extra one by the knock sensor as well?

Looking at it on a computer with color does make it a lot easier. My work printer isn't color lol

That's actually a pretty good diagram. Alternator is on the left "alt". The red plug by the fuel rail is Evap solenoid. The extra one by knock is oil pressure sensor

[Jersey Mike]

one thing I noticed so far is that the alternator plug is MIA.


From your harness or from this diagram?

[LS1ow]

From your harness or from this diagram?

Harness.

Upon research i noticed the alt plug is 1 pin red wire. I have a 1 red wire with no plug.

Upon even further research, the alternator plug must have been ripped off somehow during shipping. It is attached in the pic of the harness the guy sent me.

Upon trice further research, the alter plug was located in the bottom of the box. Just going to order up and re-pin.

[LS1ow]

That's actually a pretty good diagram. Alternator is on the left "alt". The red plug by the fuel rail is Evap solenoid. The extra one by knock is oil pressure sensor

i meant from the harness. Heres a pic

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/98DF810F-141A-4A89-83CD-9C56F38C08DB_zps290oeyoh.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/98DF810F-141A-4A89-83CD-9C56F38C08DB_zps290oeyoh.jpg.html)

and 2 close ups of the unmarked plug sets.

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/BA16B0A5-3EAF-4251-A2D7-4C02BD404AB1_zpsajcebzet.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/BA16B0A5-3EAF-4251-A2D7-4C02BD404AB1_zpsajcebzet.jpg.html)

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/FE674635-246B-4FB3-9736-5AF920A1F1CB_zpsp2eedx5o.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/FE674635-246B-4FB3-9736-5AF920A1F1CB_zpsp2eedx5o.jpg.html)

[Jersey Mike]

I think the red one is an emission related plug. Can't remember & forgot to check last night. Regardless, I don't believe it's pertinent.

[sweetbmxrider]

Red is evap

[Jersey Mike]

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/FE674635-246B-4FB3-9736-5AF920A1F1CB_zpsp2eedx5o.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/FE674635-246B-4FB3-9736-5AF920A1F1CB_zpsp2eedx5o.jpg.html)

I'll have to check this one for you when I get a chance, but position wise, it's obviously located on the driver's side, near the back of the motor. Those grounds are located on the back of the head, so it can't be far from there. I really want to say Oil Pressure Sending Unit, but I'm not positive.

[sweetbmxrider]

Kirk already said it was.

[Jersey Mike]

Kirk already said it was.

:knock: missed that. Feels good to have been right though :lol:

[LS1ow]

1 is OPS but what is the other? Evap? aka garbage?

[KirkEvil]

1 is OPS but what is the other? Evap? aka garbage?

Cam sensor for gen III. Newer Ls has it moved to the front timing cover

[LS1ow]

Cam sensor for gen III. Newer Ls has it moved to the front timing cover

So theres 2 cam sensor plugs on this ?

[KirkEvil]

Post a pic, but thinking the other would be crank sensor. Crank sensor comes off near the starter leads

[LS1ow]

Post a pic, but thinking the other would be crank sensor. Crank sensor comes off near the starter leads

posted diagram shows Crank sensor coming off by oil level and bank 2 sensor 1 o2.

also shows cam sensor is by MAP sensor sensor, near were the injector harness for the passenger bank branches off the main.

[KirkEvil]

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=428986

[LS1ow]

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=428986

perfect. will go over this later

[LS1ow]

Plug for Alternator arrived today from chevy. Will pin it in.


Got some looker parts for the front of the car today. Black housing marker lights and a billet grill.

As some of you may, or may not, know, the entire grill area of my front bumper was cut out to feed the intercooler. Leaving me with ultra catfish. So despite it not really being my favorite, a billet grill was pretty much my only option other than catfish gape. going to make some mounting tabs for it and throw it on and see how it looks. worst comes to worse i leave it big mouth billy bass.

[MDSheds_SS]

http://a67.tinypic.com/viiqrs.jpg
You can always go this route with a new bumper cover.

[LS1ow]

Look how cute it is !!!


on a side note, kinda upset how torn up the top of this thing is. I know its not going to be seen, but still, brand new piece shouldnt be gnared up like that

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/0B059DAA-096F-4FD5-910C-25776FA63B13_zpsjn4slnov.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/0B059DAA-096F-4FD5-910C-25776FA63B13_zpsjn4slnov.jpg.html)

[sweetbmxrider]

Bls will have no problem negging them....

[Blackbirdws6]

I have a nice screw in aluminum oil fill fitting with little breather if you have interest in making this attractive.

[LS1ow]

I have a nice screw in aluminum oil fill fitting with little breather if you have interest in making this attractive.

Nah, It's going on the rear of the driver side VC under the cowl, it will be hidden from daylight just as its uglyness should be.

Well see what the oil filler cap one looks like when it gets here in a few days

[KirkEvil]

Sucks you got one chewed up, mine was fine. You'll never see it under the cowl and booster line

[LS1ow]

looks good on the covers.i emailed the company about how chewed up it was, lets see what they do

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/5406C080-8634-45C5-B81E-B2BB8D533317_zpswv6oo2vj.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/5406C080-8634-45C5-B81E-B2BB8D533317_zpswv6oo2vj.jpg.html)

[KirkEvil]

looks good on the covers.i emailed the company about how chewed up it was, lets see what they do

https://conversation.which.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/delete_shutterstock_2817255.jpg

[LS1ow]

https://conversation.which.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/delete_shutterstock_2817255.jpg

Aint even mad. I do the same **** all day

[MDSheds_SS]

Looks cool, but don't they make for a mess after awhile?

[Blackbirdws6]

Looks cool, but don't they make for a mess after awhile?

They usually aren't too bad unless you decide to add some blow-by ;)

[LTb1ow]

Mighty mouse can, get one

[LS1ow]

Mighty mouse can, get one

Am.

driver VC: baby breather
Pass: 2 bungs capped w. Breather oil fill cap
LS6 Valley cover to Catch can to TB

[KirkEvil]

LS6 Valley cover to Catch can to Intake

[LS1ow]

LS6 Valley cover to Catch can to Intake

ya that.


Anyone got a LS6 VC laying around ?

[KirkEvil]

Yes actually

[LS1ow]

Yes actually

add to the pile of beggar

[LS1ow]

Got my grill in today, the bumper is cut waaaay more than I thought. Even with brackets, the billet grill will still have a 2" or so inch border of nothing around it.

Back to drawing board.

[MDSheds_SS]

Plan B... turbo & intercooler

[Jersey Mike]

Return the grille. Buy a bumper.

[qwikz28]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005VIKCTK/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[sweetbmxrider]

https://www.amazon.com/Mishimoto-MMINT-UMG-Sleep-Special-Intercooler/dp/B004AC77ZK/ref=sr_1_4?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1483582710&sr=1-4&keywords=Intercooler

It even has an M for Mickey!

[qwikz28]

https://www.amazon.com/Mishimoto-MMINT-UMG-Sleep-Special-Intercooler/dp/B004AC77ZK/ref=sr_1_4?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1483582710&sr=1-4&keywords=Intercooler

It even has an M for Mickey!

Yeah, actually do this.

[LS1ow]

Plan B... turbo & intercooler

There was a point when i put the grill back in the box that i was begging to accept the never ending turbo build fate.

Return the grille. Buy a bumper.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005VIKCTK/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


This is whats gunna happen. Grill was cheap enough that ill just resell on craigslist or here so i dont have to return it.

I will keep my eyes peeled for a NBM bumper to come up on a part out, and if i cant get one by the time the car is ready to rock (2023) ill just buy one and have my body shop spray it.

[LS1ow]

Has anyone used either of these 2 kits? I want to get pump in the tank and the tank in the car while its inside for the winter so i wanna get this going.

either one will be ran with hot wire kit.

http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=235_84_396&products_id=6513

http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/catalog/99-02-walbro-direct-fit-fuel-pump/

[sweetbmxrider]

Racetronix has had a very bad run of pumps lately, I would avoid it man. My aeromotive stealth 340 in tank pump was great. You have to upgrade the wiring inside of the tank though, the hotwire kit does not replace that. Racetronix sells the wiring and bulkhead connector.

[LS1ow]

Racetronix has had a very bad run of pumps lately, I would avoid it man. My aeromotive stealth 340 in tank pump was great. You have to upgrade the wiring inside of the tank though, the hotwire kit does not replace that. Racetronix sells the wiring and bulkhead connector.

that sounds like all the money

[sweetbmxrider]

that sounds like all the money

Google, its comparable to what you are looking at and it won't **** out on you....twice....your time is worth something too :nod: Prob support a baby turbo :twisted:

[LS1ow]

Not as expensive as I thought.

Even supports E85 for the inevitable turbo

[LS1ow]

Racetronix has had a very bad run of pumps lately, I would avoid it man. My aeromotive stealth 340 in tank pump was great. You have to upgrade the wiring inside of the tank though, the hotwire kit does not replace that. Racetronix sells the wiring and bulkhead connector.

Adam, do you remember which set up on the pump you got? Offset/Center/Ect

also, were you able to maintain the venturi system so i dont have to worry about running low and burning the pump ?

[sweetbmxrider]

Adam, do you remember which set up on the pump you got? Offset/Center/Ect

also, were you able to maintain the venturi system so i dont have to worry about running low and burning the pump ?

Yeah, I haxed it into the bucket but this is lt1 lulz. Can't remember which pump is correct though :rofl: I think its same side, not offset. Def wasn't center.

[LS1ow]

Yeah, I haxed it into the bucket but this is lt1 lulz. Can't remember which pump is correct though :rofl: I think its same side, not offset. Def wasn't center.

Any link to wire harness upgrade as well?




Also, spoke to racetronix via email with some question. Theyre saying that line of bad pumps is gone and it was do it being manufactured elsewere.

[Blackbirdws6]

Also, spoke to racetronix via email with some question. Theyre saying that line of bad pumps is gone and it was do it being manufactured elsewere.

Not trying to sway you but did you expect a different response? "Yes we still have an issue with the pumps but you should be good to go."

If you do buy, just be careful who is selling. No telling if there is bad product still on someone's shelf ready to ship.

[LS1ow]

Not trying to sway you but did you expect a different response? "Yes we still have an issue with the pumps but you should be good to go."

If you do buy, just be careful who is selling. No telling if there is bad product still on someone's shelf ready to ship.


Dont make me feel stupid in my own build thread bls !


Would be purchasing from WS6 store, seem to reputable.

[LS1ow]

Adam, is this the upgraded harness i would need to run the Aeromotive ?

http://www.ws6project.com/user_stor/catalog/99-02-racetronix-ls1-f-body-harness-only/

[Blackbirdws6]

Dont make me feel stupid in my own build thread bls !


Would be purchasing from WS6 store, seem to reputable.

Perhaps Racetronix can provide info to determine the manufacture date? WS6 store may not stock the parts and it's possible they come right from Racetronix.

[sweetbmxrider]

http://www.racetronix.biz/searchresult.asp

One of those probably. I used the lt1 specific harness since my wiring melted the insulation off and grounded out inside the tank. New wiring, never an issue again. Maybe just get the universal one?

Also, just pony up to the aeromotive. Great reputation for fuel pumps. Why chance it with guys that have had bad runs? Clearly they are looking to save themselves money, which may just leave you stranded.

[LS1ow]

http://www.racetronix.biz/searchresult.asp

One of those probably. I used the lt1 specific harness since my wiring melted the insulation off and grounded out inside the tank. New wiring, never an issue again. Maybe just get the universal one?

Also, just pony up to the aeromotive. Great reputation for fuel pumps. Why chance it with guys that have had bad runs? Clearly they are looking to save themselves money, which may just leave you stranded.

Link provided led me to injectors.:nick::nick::nick:

Ill have no problem spending for the Aeromotive, i just need to know what to get

[sweetbmxrider]

:rofl: same, just search bulkhead connector on their site.

What tank/sending unit do you have? Is there a pump on it?

Bunch of shens in this thread (http://ls1tech.com/forums/fueling-injection/1611528-walbro-255-vs-aeromotive-340-stealth-2.html#post17166578)that I had no issue with. You're prob ****ed doe. Where's smash????

[LS1ow]

:rofl: same, just search bulkhead connector on their site.

What tank/sending unit do you have? Is there a pump on it?

Bunch of shens in this thread (http://ls1tech.com/forums/fueling-injection/1611528-walbro-255-vs-aeromotive-340-stealth-2.html#post17166578)that I had no issue with. You're prob ****ed doe. Where's smash????

i have a stock tank/pump/sending unit from a 01 Z28

[LS1ow]

also,

am i going to need new fuel lines and FPR?

stolen from other thread:
1) - Aftermarket fuel pressure regulator since the stock one in-tank won't be able to keep up.
(2) - Upgraded wiring harness with new bulkhead connector Racetronix posted above.
(3) - Need to run a -6an return line to the return port on the bucket and remove the stock regulator.
(4) - Need to either run a new -8AN feed line or you can use the stock line and find a fitting to cap off the port on the T junction where the lines split apart near the fuel filter and return line.

Really did not want to spend the extra money on AN fittings and braided lines...

[PolarBear]

Adam, do you remember which set up on the pump you got? Offset/Center/Ect

also, were you able to maintain the venturi system so i dont have to worry about running low and burning the pump ?

If you have a plastic tank with the bucket, it doesn't really matter which pump you use since the pump is connected to the sender by a corrugated plastic hose. The hose is slightly too long and needs to be routed specifically so that it doesn't kink when you collapse the bucket during install

[LS1ow]

All these variables are really making me lean towards a plain walbro 255 with a hotwire

[MDSheds_SS]

All these variables are really making me lean towards a plain walbro 255 with a hotwire

Knock on wood, no issues with this setup in both cars.

[KirkEvil]

All these variables are really making me lean towards a plain walbro 255 with a hotwire

:bertstare: Do this...

If you have a plastic tank with the bucket, it doesn't really matter which pump you use since the pump is connected to the sender by a corrugated plastic hose.

then reuse the stock system up to the rails. You should already have 6an fittings with that ebay kit you picked up for the rail crossover and adapter to hardline.

[LS1ow]

:bertstare: Do this...



then reuse the stock system up to the rails. You should already have 6an fittings with that ebay kit you picked up for the rail crossover and adapter to hardline.

That's why I planned on doing. Running stock fuel lines from pump up to the quick connect to AN adapter that came with the fuel rails.


Any need for a different pressure regulator ? Or a different fuel filter over the stock one?

Will prob throw a mechanical gauge on the rail similar to you did on the Mystery MaSShyn

[KirkEvil]

Stock reg and filter is fine for your setup

[LTb1ow]

I have a semi functional hotwire kit laying in garage beggz

[sweetbmxrider]

Didn't realize ls1's couldn't handle all teh fuel pump PAH! All's I needed was new wiring, everything else was stock. Pray you get a good pump brah

If you have a plastic tank with the bucket, it doesn't really matter which pump you use since the pump is connected to the sender by a corrugated plastic hose. The hose is slightly too long and needs to be routed specifically so that it doesn't kink when you collapse the bucket during install

The pump pickup is the offset, not the outlet. Not sure if that is what you are thinking. You can make either work, but you'll have to lightly hack the top of the bucket for the connector to pass through, if you follow me.

[LS1ow]

Next Question....

since i wont be running any evap stuff on the car, i can just eliminate that second line in this pairing correct ? just use the fuel one.

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/172150779180-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

[sweetbmxrider]

Neg it

[LTb1ow]

Pump nawz through it

[LS1ow]

Neg it

prob just gunna trim the ends off to get rid of the useless line look but maintain the heatshield wrap condom thing

[KirkEvil]

prob just gunna trim the ends off to get rid of the useless line look but maintain the heatshield wrap condom thing

You dont need the heat shield, The stock line is plastic under that rubber

[KirkEvil]

Actually, dont use either lines. I think the fittings that came with the rail kit you got had male fitting to adapt to them, but its cleaner to go right to the hardline so the stock plastic lines dont kink.

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww42/KirkEvil/NJFBOA/Because%20Racecar/IMG_20131017_165938_zps2f47faf2.jpg

[MDSheds_SS]

http://a63.tinypic.com/2dce848.jpg
You can put the crossover line in the back so you can run the gauge you had mentioned on the other rail.

[LS1ow]

That's how I want to do it, with the gauge right in the front. Even though the crossover up front looks good.


Kirk what's that reservoir on the passenger shock tower? Coolant ?

[KirkEvil]

That's how I want to do it, with the gauge right in the front. Even though the crossover up front looks good.


Kirk what's that reservoir on the passenger shock tower? Coolant ?

Cross over out back is the way to go for a clean look, that pic is just what came with the vengeance racing kit when I got the intake and rail combo. and yes, that reservoir was the overflow

[LS1ow]

black anodized fitting and black fuel pressure gauge are en route.

as is fuel pump.

this showed up today as well, nothing exciting, but just little things i wont need to buy later. Brian Tooley has some awesome shipping. Ordered friday night and it showed up today.

BTR Cam kit with ARP Cam bolts and Crank Bolt

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/1125C0CB-A1B0-46AB-8005-1DCA51F4C0E1_zpsgrlobeem.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/1125C0CB-A1B0-46AB-8005-1DCA51F4C0E1_zpsgrlobeem.jpg.html)

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/331C1FD0-7B2F-49D9-9043-86AE5BB639AE_zps8qqbvh0y.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/331C1FD0-7B2F-49D9-9043-86AE5BB639AE_zps8qqbvh0y.jpg.html)

[Blackbirdws6]

This is a post I can get behind.

[LS1ow]

Anyone ever have any issues with Hawks ? I ordered something from them on the 2nd, still haven't received it. Tracking # shows ETA is 1/8 :bertstare:

[PolarBear]

Anyone ever have any issues with Hawks ? I ordered something from them on the 2nd, still haven't received it. Tracking # shows ETA is 1/8 :bertstare:

They were closed from Christmas to New Year, I believe, so they may be catching up on orders during that time. I bought the 17" crosslace wheels during the sale and they shipped pretty quick. Call them if you can't wait. But you can only call from 1pm-4 or 5pm EST!

[LS1ow]

They were closed from Christmas to New Year, I believe, so they may be catching up on orders during that time. I bought the 17" crosslace wheels during the sale and they shipped pretty quick. Call them if you can't wait. But you can only call from 1pm-4 or 5pm EST!

I actually received my part today lol

I don't think it was their fault, it showered up in a big box, and inside the big box was a smaller box that looked like the original box. I guess packaging was damaged at the post office and that was the delay

[wretched73]

Anything getting done?.... On the car?

[LTb1ow]

Does the car even exist?

[Jersey Mike]

"Car" is probably a tad liberal for this things current state

[wretched73]

Excuse me, Has this pile of scrap made it to the dump yet?

[Jersey Mike]

No. Plenty of ambition and money yet to flounder.

[LS1ow]

Anything getting done?.... On the car?

Everything that can be done without a motor and trans is being done.

Cut off switch and battery box will be done Tuesday night, after that the fuel tank will go back in (new pump)

After that stuff I'm pretty much at a dead end till I get some more $$$. No point of putting all the fancy suspension stuff in now, just going to have to pull the K again when the motor comes.

[wretched73]

So just motor is holding you up?

[LS1ow]

So just motor is holding you up?

Pretty much. I have X amount of $ set aside for parts, I don't want to spend money and then not have the cash ready when I get the call to go get the engine.

once I get the engine, then I will send the heads to get cleaned and what not. Then after that order all the stuff needed for engine assembly(head gaskets, head bolts, pushrods, ect)

Then this thing should get going

[wretched73]

Pretty much. I have X amount of $ set aside for parts, I don't want to spend money and then not have the cash ready when I get the call to go get the engine.

once I get the engine, then I will send the heads to get cleaned and what not. Then after that order all the stuff needed for engine assembly(head gaskets, head bolts, pushrods, ect)

Then this thing should get going

Sounds good, I probably missed it but what are the plans for the motor?

[LS1ow]

Sounds good, I probably missed it but what are the plans for the motor?

Stock bottom end LS1 with 243s and a cam threw a 4l60e while it lasts lol

[LS1ow]

Was seconds way from destroying the HVAC box from the outside last night as discussed earlier in the thread.


But then the Jersey Mike on my left shoulder somehow out reasoned the Adam on my right shoulder...

so i started to pull the dash last night to get to the HVAC.

Dash pad out once piece:nod:

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/D2B82CD5-C733-4302-9F39-7722C1B99991_zpsz8xpd6jk.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/D2B82CD5-C733-4302-9F39-7722C1B99991_zpsz8xpd6jk.jpg.html)

Current state.

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/F862D98E-9B73-47C9-BA23-4DD6E0AC7A91_zpsx3e5dsk4.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/F862D98E-9B73-47C9-BA23-4DD6E0AC7A91_zpsx3e5dsk4.jpg.html)

Had to leave after that.

So for those that have done the removal, do i have enough room to get it out? or do i need to continue

[sweetbmxrider]

Well, you wasted that much time. Might as well yank it all.

[LS1ow]

Well, you wasted that much time. Might as well yank it all.



Sigh. I just wanted working defrosters !

[sweetbmxrider]

Without ac, they won't work very well anyways :rofl:

[Jersey Mike]

I think you should be able to access all the bolts with a swivel and long extension like that but, just like Adam said, you're at the home stretch and may as well just keep going

[deadtrend1]

I pulled the dash completely out to remove the hvac box. Just be carefull cause the soft padding will crack or get holes if you hit it on anything

[LS1ow]

At this point what else should be holding it in? I know the harness is clipped to it at some points, but any other bolts that need to come off?

[sweetbmxrider]

The dash? Looks like its pretty much out?

[LS1ow]

The dash? Looks like its pretty much out?

i havent been back down to my garage to take a look. Maybe i just need to lift it over the steering wheel to get it free and out of the way

[ar0ck]

No stopping now! I'll see if I have any extra ABS plastic you can fashion a delete plate.

[BonzoHansen]

Duct tape and zipties, yo

[LS1ow]

No stopping now! I'll see if I have any extra ABS plastic you can fashion a delete plate.

got one of someone on tech who was selling off all the stuff he gathered for his build for $30. Stay tuned for when i sell it for $25 when i part out all the stuff ive gathered. :rofl:


on a side note, were'd you get the ABS? Local?

[LTb1ow]

McMaster carr

[LS1ow]

McMaster carr

Was hoping to find a place local.

Btw Smash, you went 80e right ?

[LTb1ow]

Was hoping to find a place local.

Btw Smash, you went 80e right ?

Mcmaster is in Robinsville, they do same day delivery for us at work.

And yes, 80e. Wanna buy it?

[LS1ow]

Mcmaster is in Robinsville, they do same day delivery for us at work.

And yes, 80e. Wanna buy it?

I didnt know they were so close, thanks !


eh, maybe. But what would you do? Weve been talking smack to each other for 7 years, we gotta line up some time. :bertstare: You selling the trans might put a damper on that... do i smell a part out ?

[LTb1ow]

If I sold it for a good price, would be TH400 and re-gearing S60 to 3.54s. But since no one will give me what I would want, car will remain in one piece

[LS1ow]

If I sold it for a good price, would be TH400 and re-gearing S60 to 3.54s. But since no one will give me what I would want, car will remain in one piece

If been gong back and forth with myself over what i should do trans wise and have been meaning to text you actually.

60e is cheap, available regular and a direct bolt in. But is a 60e, already blown up 3, im sure ill blow threw a few more.

80e im not really sure im going to be at the power level that would warrant this, but it would nice and stout. But also would have to get a controller for it and mount.

TH350/400 would prob be best price vs. abuse that it can handle. and it would be able to run with out any computer, but it also does need a differnt mount.

My 4th gen had the 383LT1/TH350 combo and i drove it with a FMVB, but i never took it anywere far. With this build id like to be able to drive down the highway at 65-70 and not be at a insane rpm

[LTb1ow]

Who says you need a controller to run an 80e? You have an LS1 bro, the world is yours.

[LS1ow]

Those of you with instagram and facebook may have already saw this :nod:

KirkEvil hooked me up with some high quality vinyl so i got a but creative with the berger. :usa:

Also, those of you who may remember the lock cyl for the hatch was all messed up and needed replacement. At first i wanted to smooth out the panel, but then i was searching for a spot to put my battery cut off switch. Stumbled upon Kohlers set up for it and adopted the same thing.

Cut off switch is mounted threw the berger using the factory key hole, sandwiched with 2 washers(outside being red w. On/Off) The existing hole from the lock was just enlarged to allow the cut off switch threw.

The hatch isnt closed in the pics so dont mind the huge space.

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/A3FADC54-33B2-472B-A407-AD0A80DE3759_zps96a41ioa.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/A3FADC54-33B2-472B-A407-AD0A80DE3759_zps96a41ioa.jpg.html)

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag194/micbegls1/4C6861DD-4307-42CE-AF67-3F809A2F69A4_zpsrcexeugm.jpg (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/micbegls1/media/4C6861DD-4307-42CE-AF67-3F809A2F69A4_zpsrcexeugm.jpg.html)

[LS1ow]

Before anyone mentions is, im already leaning toward removing the larger "OFF" switch on the hatch and just keeping the little "Off/On" on the red washer. I stuck the big sticker on before i thought of triming the washer down so it didnt cover the camaro letters.

[ar0ck]

Big stickers definitely gotta go, to busy in the center. Other than that I love it!

[sweetbmxrider]

Get a few small white star decals!

[LS1ow]

Big stickers definitely gotta go, to busy in the center. Other than that I love it!

Today ill peel it off and get another pic

Get a few small white star decals!

Ive been trying to find but cant get anything small enough! amazon has 1/2 and thats to big. I dont think i can free hand stars that small.


Maybe a star pattern hole punch and just grab a piece of white vinyl ?

[sweetbmxrider]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TINY-MINI-5-POINT-STAR-PEEL-OFF-STICKERS-TEENY-SMALL-STARS-5mm-POINT-TO-POINT-/262820715216?var=561818621696&hash=item3d3155dad0:m:mK-3Qlp2o0992wAZ2AmVN9g

There you go, mate.

[BonzoHansen]

or go to AC Moore or Micheals.

[wretched73]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TINY-MINI-5-POINT-STAR-PEEL-OFF-STICKERS-TEENY-SMALL-STARS-5mm-POINT-TO-POINT-/262820715216?var=561818621696&hash=item3d3155dad0:m:mK-3Qlp2o0992wAZ2AmVN9g

There you go, mate.

Get the pink

[LS1ow]

or go to AC Moore or Micheals.

I tried micahels but even the teachers reward stars were a bit to big

[The_Bishop]

Looks sharp, but how do you open the hatch now? Strictly the dash button?

[LS1ow]

Looks sharp, but how do you open the hatch now? Strictly the dash button?

Yessir.

[LTb1ow]

I took my whole dash out today, easy...

y u wine?

[LS1ow]

So anyways,

HVAC system is out, and the delete plate is installed.

While i got the dash out, is there anything off the top of the head you guys can think of that i should do while its out? If not im throwin it back in today.

Ill just leave the dashpad off until the car is done just in case :lol:

[BonzoHansen]

Throw a match in?

[LS1ow]

any other recommendations

[sweetbmxrider]

Heater core?